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#1fulmerite said:
LSU and when the talent dwindled, their fans wanted to give him back just like we did. Ole third and Chavis; “first down”!
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Complete misrepresentation that isn’t close to what happened but carry on.

We got rid of Chavis and LSU hired him. Defense there was one of the best in the nation. He also was the highest paid DC in the country. Then A&M stole him for more money. But yes let’s frame it the way you did.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Complete misrepresentation that isn’t close to what happened but carry on.

We got rid of Chavis and LSU hired him. Defense there was one of the best in the nation. He also was the highest paid DC in the country. Then A&M stole him for more money. But yes let’s frame it the way you did.
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Exactly, let’s frame it as it actually was. When he had talent, just as when he was here and LSU, he was good. That’s because talent could mask his decencies. However, he couldn’t get more out of his players who had less talent and he couldn’t compensate against better offensive athletes.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
Exactly, let’s frame it as it actually was. When he had talent, just as when he was here and LSU, he was good. That’s because talent could mask his decencies. However, he couldn’t get more out of his players who had less talent and he couldn’t compensate against better offensive athletes.
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He had some of the best defense statistically in the country at Tennessee and LSU.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
Exactly, let’s frame it as it actually was. When he had talent, just as when he was here and LSU, he was good. That’s because talent could mask his decencies. However, he couldn’t get more out of his players who had less talent and he couldn’t compensate against better offensive athletes.
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Tell that to 2003 Miami Hurricanes and their 6 points….on their field. :)
 
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DaddyChad said:
He had some of the best defense statistically in the country at Tennessee and LSU.
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That’s because he had some of the best players in the country at both schools. Without those players (talent) his coaching ability would have shown just how good (bad) he actually was. In fact, it was proven.
 
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Hulavol said:
Tell that to 2003 Miami Hurricanes and their 6 points….on their field. :)
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Yeah, tell that to the 2002 Miami Hurricanes that scored what, 26 unanswered points.. on our home field.. for our homecoming. Lol

Good point, though.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
That’s because he had some of the best players in the country at both schools. Without those players (talent) his coaching ability would have shown just how good (bad) he actually was. In fact, it was proven.
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Brother he was made the highest paid DC in the country two times over at two different programs. He’s coached at multiple SEC programs and had top units at most of them. I had issues with him at times also but let’s not rewrite history
 
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#1fulmerite said:
Yeah, tell that to the 2002 Miami Hurricanes that scored what, 26 unanswered points.. on our home field.. for our homecoming. Lol

Good point, though.
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Beacuse I am killing time before a meeting, I bothered to look it up.
Those 26 were the smallest point total that undefeated and defending NC team scored in two years - up until ohio state held them to 24 in the NC game.

So, I’d say Chavis occasionally did pretty well against superior talent….. and this coming from a guy who was sitting right behind Chavis’ wife in Columba SC one night and accidentally blurted, “damn it Chavis” when Spurrier’s QB got about thirty yards on a third and 20….. 😂
 
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#1fulmerite said:
Exactly, let’s frame it as it actually was. When he had talent, just as when he was here and LSU, he was good. That’s because talent could mask his decencies. However, he couldn’t get more out of his players who had less talent and he couldn’t compensate against better offensive athletes.
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Talent masks all kinds of coaching deficiencies , not just Chavis, it’s the jimmy’s and joes
 
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Hulavol said:
Beacuse I am killing time before a meeting, I bothered to look it up.
Those 26 were the smallest point total that undefeated and defending NC team scored in two years - up until ohio state held them to 24 in the NC game.

So, I’d say Chavis occasionally did pretty well against superior talent….. and this coming from a guy who was sitting right behind Chavis’ wife in Columba SC one night and accidentally blurted, “damn it Chavis” when Spurrier’s QB got about thirty yards on a third and 20….. 😂
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Florida scored 63 and 59. Steve Spurrier once went for a 4th and 7 at the 50 yard line in Knoxville and they scored a TD on a wide open post route. He was a good DC, not great. We've had better
 
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#1fulmerite said:
Yeah, tell that to the 2002 Miami Hurricanes that scored what, 26 unanswered points.. on our home field.. for our homecoming. Lol

Good point, though.
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Travelled 8 hours to see that game. C. Houston broke a long run and got CAUGHT from behind at around the 5 yd line. We never got CLOSE again. Totally dominated by UM.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Brother he was made the highest paid DC in the country two times over at two different programs. He’s coached at multiple SEC programs and had top units at most of them. I had issues with him at times also but let’s not rewrite history
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I just remember his Mustang Package and his Prevent Defense prevented us from winning more than it prevented other teams from scoring. That includes us and LSU.
 
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Hulavol said:
Beacuse I am killing time before a meeting, I bothered to look it up.
Those 26 were the smallest point total that undefeated and defending NC team scored in two years - up until ohio state held them to 24 in the NC game.

So, I’d say Chavis occasionally did pretty well against superior talent….. and this coming from a guy who was sitting right behind Chavis’ wife in Columba SC one night and accidentally blurted, “damn it Chavis” when Spurrier’s QB got about thirty yards on a third and 20….. 😂
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Lol Spurrior constantly won that battle when he was at Florida.
 
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Hulavol said:
Beacuse I am killing time before a meeting, I bothered to look it up.
Those 26 were the smallest point total that undefeated and defending NC team scored in two years - up until ohio state held them to 24 in the NC game.

So, I’d say Chavis occasionally did pretty well against superior talent….. and this coming from a guy who was sitting right behind Chavis’ wife in Columba SC one night and accidentally blurted, “damn it Chavis” when Spurrier’s QB got about thirty yards on a third and 20….. 😂
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That's funny
 
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#1fulmerite said:
That’s because he had some of the best players in the country at both schools. Without those players (talent) his coaching ability would have shown just how good (bad) he actually was. In fact, it was proven.
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Newsflash…the more talented team typically wins
 
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#1fulmerite said:
That’s because he had some of the best players in the country at both schools. Without those players (talent) his coaching ability would have shown just how good (bad) he actually was. In fact, it was proven.
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That’s pretty much the story of every coach. Saban wasn’t all that great at Michigan State either. Only a very very few can win with inferior talent & even they can’t do it very long. Chavis was a very good, not great DC. Some of his best defenses were wasted with Fulmer’s worst offenses. The 2005 defense was elite but the offense stunk.
 
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