Gun control debate (merged)

[hog88]

Apples to oranges comparison. And you actually think arming more people will create less gun violence? That seems completely counter-intuitive to me.

Statistics show that its worked.

 

[hog88]

Enact additional reasonable and sensible gun legislation.

As in?

 

[GreyWolf1129]

The FF also only believed that landowners should have the right to vote, recognized no women's rights, and had no issue with slavery. You good with all those beliefs?

Actually, several of the FF’s did have an issue with slavery. It’s in how they chose to address it, or not, that you should use as an example of their shortcomings.

 

[utvolpj]

Enact additional reasonable and sensible gun legislation.

None of which is being offered by the left. Most writing the legislation have zero clue what they're even talking about. Having stupid people write bad laws only affects the good guys

 

[hog88]

The FF also only believed that landowners should have the right to vote, recognized no women's rights, and had no issue with slavery. You good with all those beliefs?

And we used the procedure provided by them to alter the constitution and change that. Do the same and stop the end-runs.

 

[LouderVol]

Apples to oranges comparison. And you actually think arming more people will create less gun violence? That seems completely counter-intuitive to me.

And yet we have not seen a rise since constitutional carry came out. In fact within weeks in Indiana it was saving lives at that mall shooting.

And all of those rights are mentioned are tied to you taking away guns. You are assuming we are guilty and should be treated the same as criminals. You are denying us trials. You would be unjustly taking away guns from people with a ban. And that doesnt even cover the 10th, and probably some others.

 

[VOLS INC.]

That's where we completely disagree. I would rather my kids be safe and have more restrictive gun laws. Easy tradeoff IMO.

You think more laws make your kids safe?

We should pass laws against violence of all kinds then. That’ll ensure they are safe

 

[85SugarVol]

Enact additional reasonable and sensible gun legislation.

I think we have to start small, and find common ground. It’s time we got barrel shrouds off the streets.

 

[C-south]

That's where we completely disagree. I would rather my kids be safe and have more restrictive gun laws. Easy tradeoff IMO.

How do you protect your home? Tennis racket? Ball bat? Pepper spray?

 

[C-south]

Enact additional reasonable and sensible gun legislation.

Or lock up offenders for more than a few months.

 

[StarRaider]

Come on ya'll... bernie sanders & co. can't turn the USA into a socialist state if the proletariat are armed. Turn 'em in get with the program already.

 

[LouderVol]

The FF also only believed that landowners should have the right to vote, recognized no women's rights, and had no issue with slavery. You good with all those beliefs?

wait are you saying you are not OK with the rights we have?

Most people ITT have said if you want to go after guns you need to amend the constitution. Just like it was with those items. Everything else is an unconsitutional grab to deny people their rights.

 

[sonofUT62]

Pictures, preferably drawn with those big crayons.

There’s a shortage. Apparently someone needs them to color with on the long flight to England for the funeral.

 

[sonofUT62]

Those countries have something else in common that is more responsible for low crime rates than gun laws.

“ The problem with Scotland is that it’s full of Scott’s”

 

[sonofUT62]

I know this won't really work with your narrative, but below are the 8 safest countries in the world:

• Iceland
• Denmark
• New Zealand
• Norway
• Austria
• Slovenia
• Japan
• Qatar

Is one of those the country with the hot coke head Prime Minister? If not I lost interest.

 

[GVF]

No one (at least not me) is asking you to give up what you already have or your right to purchase and own a firearm.
I'm just trying to keep nukes and anti-aircraft weaponry out of the hands of the people who would use them for mass destruction.

THat's why they hide that pretty 'lil red button from Mindless Joe.

 

[GVF]

Its regulated and controlled by the people who have the nukes. And it makes sure those with the nukes keep them, and no one else gets them to threaten those with nukes.

And so far, it's only been our rational and reasonable country that has nuked someone else, and it was someone without nukes or even the threat of nukes that got hit, while the extremists are 0'fer. You can understand why countries not armed with nukes are leery of those who are armed with nukes.

That same nation that has nuked someone else is also the ones telling us to disarm from our guns. The same nation with a very long and active list of maltreating, to put it lightly, groups they have disarmed.

Geronimo!

 

[GroverCleveland]

No one (at least not me) is asking you to give up what you already have or your right to purchase and own a firearm.
I'm just trying to keep nukes and anti-aircraft weaponry out of the hands of the people who would use them for mass destruction.

Well, the price point probably does that on its own. Actually, a fair number of people own firearms that at one time have been classed as or used as anti-aircraft weapons (ex: .50 BMG M-2, the mighty Ma Deuce) and, as can be expected, they have not been used for any nefarious reasons.

 

[GroverCleveland]

What person or people have nukes? Countries have nukes, and that is EXTENSIVELY regulated and controlled.......because it is rational and reasonable to do so.

Those rational and reasonable North Koreans say "Hi!"

 

[GVF]

Those rational and reasonable North Koreans say "Hi!"

They're really only a threat to themselves. The only reason they haven't rained missles on their own country is that they fire them from the coast just to be sure they go far enough over water not to blow any housing projects up.

 

[GroverCleveland]

“ The problem with Scotland is that it’s full of Scott’s”

kind of sounds familiar in recent discourse from the current dumba55 in the WH.

 

[luthervol]

That’s some impressive tap dancing .

No tap dancing. Just pointing out what is obvious to the majority.

 

[luthervol]

So guilty until proven innocent in your book. Thank God the FF didnt hold your beliefs.

What????????????

 

[VolStrom]

I know this won't really work with your narrative, but below are the 8 safest countries in the world:

• Iceland
• Denmark
• New Zealand
• Norway
• Austria
• Slovenia
• Japan
• Qatar

Does anyone know what they have in common?

 

[luthervol]

Well, the price point probably does that on its own. Actually, a fair number of people own firearms that at one time have been classed as or used as anti-aircraft weapons (ex: .50 BMG M-2, the mighty Ma Deuce) and, as can be expected, they have not been used for any nefarious reasons.

That's because they are not easily available.