Gun control debate (merged)

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NurseGoodVol said:
As Czar said there is a difference in expressing that quality of caring for others needs freely and being forced. One is Godliness and one is socialism.
I would never block you Luther, you are far too entertaining.
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One is encouraged with eternal salvation vs eternal damnation. (you don't have to do it but you'll burn in hell for eternity if you don't)
The other is encouraged with law. (you don't have to do it - you can move, not work, or refuse to pay and maybe go to jail)

And I would never block you either. I don't know why anyone would block anyone,
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I once sat in the high school parking lot after school and looked at several hunting rifles with my friends and several teachers. It was right after school and everyone was there in the process of leaving. Nobody freaked out or had a problem.
I had access to and played with/shot a mini 14 as a 14/15 year old. All my friends did too. Guns were everywhere among my friends. We were not unsupervised and we’re all taught a high level of gun safety. We didn’t shoot up schools or each other.
That’s a problem among today’s youth and younger adults.

I wonder what’s changed?
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America has transformed into a much more violent society. Blaming guns is often the go to scapegoat for politicians. Question is why do some Americans resort to violence when dealing with an issue? If gun laws become tighter, the violence problem still exists.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
America has transformed into a much more violent society. Blaming guns is often the go to scapegoat for politicians. Question is why do some Americans resort to violence when dealing with an issue? If gun laws become tighter, the violence problem still exists.
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Glorifying violence in games and movies combined with political figures calling for it. We just had a political figure call for SCONTUS judges to pay if they gave an unfavorable decision and someone tried to kill a judge.
Where is that investigation?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I've lost a former patient and a patient's parent in the past 2 years due to Fentanyl OD. Only firearm death in 18 years was a handgun suicide by a father.
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Certainly you realize that one person's experience with that is anecdotal and just not reflective of thr national issue.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I once sat in the high school parking lot after school and looked at several hunting rifles with my friends and several teachers. It was right after school and everyone was there in the process of leaving. Nobody freaked out or had a problem.
I had access to and played with/shot a mini 14 as a 14/15 year old. All my friends did too. Guns were everywhere among my friends. We were not unsupervised and we’re all taught a high level of gun safety. We didn’t shoot up schools or each other.
That’s a problem among today’s youth and younger adults.

I wonder what’s changed?
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It’s too easy to get a gun today. Unlike before when you could have them mailed to your house with no background check and every hardware store had barrels of rifles.
 
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luthervol said:
I think pretty much everyone recognizes that as a huge part of the problem.
That's why I support measures that would reduce the number of unwanted kids being born into that cycle (or any cycle). By killing them in the womb.
That's why I support measures that would incentivize NOT having kids until you are emotionally and financially equipped to be a parent. LOL Good luck with that one.
That's why I support measures that would reduce the number of able bodied people living off of government assistance. Liar
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LOL
 
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luthervol said:
Lots of room for negotiation and compromise.
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I would hope so.

Breaking the chain is going to be incredibly painful for the generation of recipients when the other shoe drops.

Households cannot be allowed to continually “reset the clock” on payouts.
 
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evillawyer said:
Worth watching

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PEPPERJAX said:
America has transformed into a much more violent society. Blaming guns is often the go to scapegoat for politicians. Question is why do some Americans resort to violence when dealing with an issue? If gun laws become tighter, the violence problem still exists.
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I don't think we are a more violent society.
In EL's link, the guy (British) talks about how the UK is much more violent, but that there violence is in the form of a fist fight at the pub. In the UK, you are much more likely to be in a fight but much less likely to be shot dead.
From my experience, school fights were far more common in when I was in school than they are today, Fights are comparatively very rare today. The difference is that 40 years ago maybe 1 in a 1000 fights ended in gunfire. Today it's probably 1 in 10.
I think things were much better when anger and aggression could be released through a quick and relatively inconsequential fist fight, than it is now where guns are so frequently the go-to response.
Obviously, the proliferation of guns has made this worse.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
America has transformed into a much more violent society. Blaming guns is often the go to scapegoat for politicians. Question is why do some Americans resort to violence when dealing with an issue? If gun laws become tighter, the violence problem still exists.
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They dont care about the violence. Or lives lost. They literally only care about the guns.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I would hope so.

Breaking the chain is going to be incredibly painful for the generation of recipients when the other shoe drops.

Households cannot be allowed to continually “reset the clock” on payouts.
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It has been such an obvious problem for decades. If a boat is sinking, you have to bail water but also need to plug the leaks.
 
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Senators look to announce initial agreement on guns as soon as Sunday - CNNPolitics
A bipartisan group of senators announced an agreement on principle for gun safety legislation Sunday, which includes "needed mental health resources, improves school safety and support for students, and helps ensure dangerous criminals and those who are adjudicated as mentally ill can't purchase weapons," they said in a statement.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
America has transformed into a much more violent society. Blaming guns is often the go to scapegoat for politicians. Question is why do some Americans resort to violence when dealing with an issue? If gun laws become tighter, the violence problem still exists.
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It is true, but if we limit guns then the destructive power in such a short period of time will be lessened. And. So that's what we should do.
 
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