Gun control debate (merged)

[GroverCleveland]

I'm curious how many of you gun lovers grew up in a rural environment.
Where any of you raised in an urban environment?

Rural.

 

[hog88]

It was a ban on the manufacture and sale of assault rifles, whatever the wording. If all you're going to do is talk BS to me, then it won't last long.

No it wasn’t. It banned cosmetic features and not function.

 

[Weezer]

I literally took the time to make you a scatterplot of all 50 states with the x being your gun numbers from Rand and the Y being homicide rates. I ranked all 50 from 1-50 in both categories. This scatterplot with NO CORRELATION is the result.

How can you state something that is obviously, 100% made up?


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This can't be your first time arguing with luther, so how is this even a question? lmao

 

[GroverCleveland]

This can't be your first time arguing with luther, so how is this even a question? lmao

I know. It’s like when he quotes something or throws out a statistic, you already know that it is BS or a deliberate obfuscation of the truth.

 

[InVOLuntary]

For now. Give the Catholic Court time to release their rollback officially.

And throwing out RvW doesn't ban anything.

 

[InVOLuntary]

The majority of the court is Catholic. Am I mistaken?

So is your president.

 

[LouderVol]

It is obviously all of those things, plus a 300% increase in population.
And guns have become more deadly and easily attainable.

How so? How are guns more deadly than they were 40 years ago?

I cant mail order a gun anymore.
We cant buy fully automatic weapons anymore.

 

[LouderVol]

They used muskets for line infantry companies. However, some men carried the Kentucky rifles many of which they owned personally. The Kentucky rifle had an effective range of 300 yards, almost four times that of the Brown Bess carried by the government troops. The Kentucky rifle provided the colonists a significant tactical advantage on the battlefield.

Which is why I have always found the argument the writers of the 2A would have intended to prevent civilians to carry weapons (bear arms) the equivalent of or superior to government troops absurd.

And privateers

 

[ButchPlz]

Presented without comment.

 

[ButchPlz]

They used muskets for line infantry companies. However, some men carried the Kentucky rifles many of which they owned personally. The Kentucky rifle had an effective range of 300 yards, almost four times that of the Brown Bess carried by the government troops. The Kentucky rifle provided the colonists a significant tactical advantage on the battlefield.

Which is why I have always found the argument the writers of the 2A would have intended to prevent civilians to carry weapons (bear arms) the equivalent of or superior to government troops absurd.

The good old days where one could own a private battleship as well.

 

[C-south]

I literally took the time to make you a scatterplot of all 50 states with the x being your gun numbers from Rand and the Y being homicide rates. I ranked all 50 from 1-50 in both categories. This scatterplot with NO CORRELATION is the result.

How can you state something that is obviously, 100% made up?


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Can’t tell if it’s positive or negative but seems to be no correlation either way.

 

[hog88]

The good old days where one could own a private battleship as well.

PepsiCo once owned a naval fleet.

 

[Rickyvol77]

It is obviously all of those things, plus a 300% increase in population.
And guns have become more deadly and easily attainable.

Guns have not become “more deadly” or more easily attainable in 40 years

 

[GroverCleveland]

The good old days where one could own a private battleship as well.

If one had the wherewithal.

 

[Rickyvol77]

And there it is, muh rites

That pesky constitution bothers you doesn’t it

 

[LouderVol]

I'm curious how many of you gun lovers grew up in a rural environment.
Where any of you raised in an urban environment?

Suburban.

 

[ButchPlz]

Guns have not become “more deadly” or more easily attainable in 40 years

They've actually provably become less attainable over the last 40 years.

 

[hog88]

Hmmmm

Retired federal agent may have known about plans for the Buffalo shooting ahead of the massacre, report says

 

[LouderVol]

That pesky constitution bothers you doesn’t it

I want to take away voting. The last two to ten elections have done irreparable harm to our country. I am sure no one will make a muh rites argument.

 

[C-south]

I want to take away voting. The last two to ten elections have done irreparable harm to our country. I am sure no one will make a muh rites argument.

Raise the age, background checks, mandatory mental health screenings, and an IQ test.

 

[ButchPlz]

That pesky constitution bothers you doesn’t it

Abortion = right (despite never being mentioned and murder being morally wrong on all counts)

Firearms = not a right (despite the words "shall not be infringed" explicitly written)

We've got a culture problem, not a gun problem. And some cultures are much worse about it than others.

 

[ButchPlz]

Raise the age, background checks, mandatory mental health screenings, and an IQ test.

Sounds like those women that are always protesting that they want voting rights or women's issues treated as "liberally" as acquiring a firearm.

 

[evillawyer]

Abortion = right (despite never being mentioned and murder being morally wrong on all counts)

Firearms = not a right (despite the words "shall not be infringed" explicitly written)

We've got a culture problem, not a gun problem. And some cultures are much worse about it than others.

Can't it be both.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

So is your president.

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[C-south]

Sounds like those women that are always protesting that they want voting rights or women's issues treated as "liberally" as acquiring a firearm.

I’ll meet the looney libs halfway and say their are no finite genders if they’ll do the same for race. I guess actual women will just have to deal with since most seem to be complicit anyway.