Gun control debate (merged)

[37L1]

Do you have a point to make or are you still trying to spring your sad little trap?

Let me ask you this: Do you want the ban reinstated as it was previously written?

 

[Ashevolle]

You brought the trap , set it up then stepped in it . You aren’t going to answer are you . This is the problem with arguing rights with the left , when their argument gets blown up by facts that bail on you . You are now just being disingenuous . I mean if you don’t know the answer to my question I’ll provide it for you but I think you already do .

Still waiting for your point.......

 

[0nelilreb]

Still waiting for your point.......

Still waiting on you to answer my question , it’s not a hard question , it’s factual and can be found on google in about 10 seconds .

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I've represented many people on gun charges who told me they were responsible gun owners. I simply smile and nod to them and don't correct them. Everyone's a responsible gun owner until they're not.

Exceptions don’t prove the rule

 

[Ashevolle]

Let me ask you this: Do you want the ban reinstated as it was previously written?

I think the Sandy Hook inspired Bill is better.

 

[Ashevolle]

Still waiting on you to answer my question , it’s not a hard question , it’s factual and can be found on google in about 10 seconds .

oh so you know the answer? Glad that's settled then. Now you can proceed to your point.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Sounds like an obvious problem.

That you can’t fix with more laws. So you want to pass more laws which punish law abiding citizens to address criminals ignoring the current laws already in place.

Another tip for you Albert. You’ve brought nothing new to the discussion which already hasn’t been brought up before including this idiot point of more laws to address criminals ignoring the current laws.

 

[0nelilreb]

oh so you know the answer? Glad that's settled then. Now you can proceed to your point.

Ok my point is that you brought up a bullsh!t point of mass shootings and the ban , when you were called on it ,you implemented the 5 rules of dodge ball in order to try and avoid having you point blown all to hell . Not only did you stop arguing points and what you believed were facts , you injected your emotions, feelings and moral beliefs into the argument . Everyone in the thread knows why the ban was lifted , why congress declined to reinstate it and why the courts declined multiple times ( sunset clause ) ..

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia


if you have any question mr attorney I’ll be glad to google them for you since apparently you guys on the left coast don’t seems to have access to the information.

 

[hog88]

So you agree that we have a problem surrounding guns that our current laws cannot manage?

We don’t have a gun problem, we have a people problem.

 

[Orangeslice13]

We don’t have a gun problem, we have a people problem.

I don’t have a problem. I have the answers

 

[NorthDallas40]

I don’t have a problem. I have the answers

I’m guessing more laws aren’t on your answer list

 

[Orangeslice13]

I’m guessing more laws aren’t on your answer list

Good guess
We have all the laws we need already.
Most are not followed. Why should we pass more to ignore

 

[0nelilreb]

Well dang , I guess we are done talking about how the 94 rifle ban of 10 years proved that bans , more laws , and more restrictions on our rights .. doesn’t work like the left claims .

 

[Rickyvol77]

So you agree that we have a problem surrounding guns that our current laws cannot manage?

I’m saying no gun control laws (outside of longer prison sentences for violent criminals and locking up violently mentally ill people in institutions) will prevent people from killing them selves or others with guns.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Most gun violence crimes aren't pre-planned and are the result of high emotions. When that person also has a gun nearby, the chances of death go up significantly. Mass shootings happen because people who would otherwise commit the crime have access to an ever-growing cache of weapons that can kills dozens of people in under a minute. Before the assault rifle bancwas lifted, mass shootings were simply shootings.

You are FOS. Most gun violence is planned suicide or premeditated criminal shootings.

 

[Rickyvol77]

News flash, the government can do anything. Full stop. If you think they'll ever let you have fire power that can compete with them, you're living in a fantasy.

Hey genius the vast majority of military and law enforcement are pro 2nd amendment and your fantasies will never ever happen

 

[NorthDallas40]

You are FOS. Most gun violence is planned suicide or premeditated criminal shootings.

Take suicide off the table and let’s re-examine the gun related deaths. Talking to you @Ashevolle

 

[Rickyvol77]

I've represented many people on gun charges who told me they were responsible gun owners. I simply smile and nod to them and don't correct them. Everyone's a responsible gun owner until they're not.

We can’t help you make money working for criminals. That’s not normal Americans

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Take suicide off the table and let’s re-examine the gun related deaths. Talking to you @Ashevolle

Well obviously it's the mind control ability of guns that drives people to commit suicide with them.

Duhhhhhh

 

[Ashevolle]

Well dang , I guess we are done talking about how the 94 rifle ban of 10 years proved that bans , more laws , and more restrictions on our rights .. doesn’t work like the left claims .

We did have a spike in mass shootings after its sunset.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

We did have a spike in mass shootings after its sunset.

You're aware that many guns were classified as "pre-ban" and possession of them was still allowed. AWB pertained mainly to new production. So why would there be a spike if the guns had been around for the previous decade? Were there just piles of angsty teens waiting for the moment a federal law sunset so they could finally shoot someone?

 

[C-south]

Sounds like an obvious problem.

Yet your solution is to punish the ones that are law abiding.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Yet your solution is to punish the ones that are law abiding.

For an insignificant problem statistically in comparison to many other issues.

 

[joevol33]

Most gun violence crimes aren't pre-planned and are the result of high emotions. When that person also has a gun nearby, the chances of death go up significantly. Mass shootings happen because people who would otherwise commit the crime have access to an ever-growing cache of weapons that can kills dozens of people in under a minute. Before the assault rifle bancwas lifted, mass shootings were simply shootings.

They could always strap a bomb to themselves. Or, mant stories of knife atracks where there were multiple victims. You're gonna have to understand the criminals your side loves aren't obeying any law, and us lawful gun owners aren't a problem. We have our rights, and will still have them when me abd you leave this world.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

If anything Americans should have MORE access to guns.