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#26
#26
MontyPython said:
Yeah no. Russia is basically an agrarian / petrochemical state with some amazing engineers.

Putin is pumping a dry well w Ukraine. Driving his country into oblivion is apparently fine by him.

I do think we're close to the end of the war.
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Why do you think Putin wants to conquer Ukraine?
 
#28
#28
Go aeiou said:
Venezuela falls. Is Denmark next?
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I don’t think that Denmark has anything to worry about unless they’ve expropriated our energy industry assets and are transporting what they pump to our enemies. They also best not be enabling the shipment of deadly drugs into America.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I don’t think that Denmark has anything to worry about unless they’ve expropriated our energy industry assets and are transporting what they pump to our enemies. They also best not be enabling the shipment of deadly drugs into America.
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Genuinely don't think this has anything to do with drugs.
 
#40
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I've been saying for quite some time, many Eastern European countries are probably on the chopping block as well. Greenland is not even a speed bump. The Baltics wouldn't be much more than a speed bump. It does put into question Saudi and Norway as well.

Tick tock.
 
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Ukraine is BY FAR the most valuable state Russia lost when USSR broke up. It isn't even close.

It has over 60 Million people, it was the breadbasket of the old Russian Empire, it has tons of metal resources (something Hitler went for in WW2), and was one of the major heavy industrial regions of the USSR.

There is a reason Ukraine gets invaded a lot. I don't think Russia can truly be a global superpower again without at least part of Ukraine. I think Putin thinks that as well so, from a power standpoint, it made sense that Russia wanted to take over Ukraine.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Ukraine is BY FAR the most valuable state Russia lost when USSR broke up. It isn't even close.

It has over 60 Million people, it was the breadbasket of the old Russian Empire, it has tons of metal resources (something Hitler went for in WW2), and was one of the major heavy industrial regions of the USSR.

There is a reason Ukraine gets invaded a lot. I don't think Russia can truly be a global superpower again without at least part of Ukraine. I think Putin thinks that as well so, from a power standpoint, it made sense that Russia wanted to take over Ukraine.
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They already are a global superpower which is why the continue on without any or limited connection to the global financial system. The Ukraine is mostly not valuable, the people are a negative asset.

Best course of action is the same I said 3+ years ago, flatten it, push those people into Poland. Problem resolved.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
They already are a global superpower which is why the continue on without any or limited connection to the global financial system. The Ukraine is mostly not valuable, the people are a negative asset.

Best course of action is the same I said 3+ years ago, flatten it, push those people into Poland. Problem resolved.
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No they are not, they are a vassal state of China.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
No they are not, but even if true so what?

So, if they are vassal of the United States, that is good?
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USA doesn't have claims on Russian territory, China does. That area around Vladivostok and that port itself will likely be part of China in the next 20 years. To be fair, Russia took it from Manchu China in the 19th Century so the Chinese see it as a way to reclaim their land.

Go play Victoria 3 and you will see the areas of Russia that are owned by China in that point of history. China wants those areas back.
 
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volbound1700 said:
USA doesn't have claims on Russian territory, China does. That area around Vladivostok and that port itself will likely be part of China in the next 20 years. To be fair, Russia took it from Manchu China in the 19th Century so the Chinese see it as a way to reclaim their land.

Go play Victoria 3 and you will see the areas of Russia that are owned by China in that point of history. China wants those areas back.
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In 20 years, you're going to be wishing your ATM card still worked.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
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You're a special kind of stupid aren't you.

Remember Denmark is a member of NATO. If we attack Greenland, we trigger Article 5 of NATO and are obliged to come to the defense of... Greenland.

You want to start World War 3 with our allies d******?

TRUMP BEING STUPID TRUMP.
 
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#49
MontyPython said:
You're a special kind of stupid aren't you.

Remember Denmark is a member of NATO. If we attack Greenland, we trigger Article 5 of NATO and are obliged to come to the defense of Greenland.

You want to start World War 3 with our allies d******?

TRUMP BEING STUPID TRUMP.
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it is up to Greenland if they want to be part of the US, not a NATO decision. If Trump makes them an offer they can't refuse NATO can do nothing about it.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
it is up to Greenland if they want to be part of the US, not a NATO decision. If Trump makes them an offer they can't refuse NATO can do nothing about it.
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If the U.S. sent 3,000 troops to Greenland and took it over, you know what Denmark and NATO are going to do? Nothing.... maybe send a strongly worded e-mail.
 
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