Good thread from UF message board

[onevol74]

Florida has another problem with this analogy. They played a team that essentially played without a QB. We had open receivers but Crompton just plain missed the throws. I think that UF is very vulnerable in the secondary this year and there are several teams that will show them later in the year.

 

[tim]

They would've killed us if they didn't have the worst case of swine flu ever recorded hit only their premier players.

 

[AFL2008]

I just think the reaction here has been crazy and I've been arguing a point.

UF was winning 23-6, was dominating the game, and turned the ball over right before they put the final nail in the coffin.

It's not an excuse, it happened, and UT capitalized.

But to think that the score indicates that UF is vulnerable is just strange to me. The pretty much moved the ball at will most of the day. They had two drops in the red zone that made them take FG's instead of TD's and they had turnovers.

This is one game.

I don't mind people maybe thinking less of Florida now, but to say that suddenly Alabama is better just because of one off game by Florida seems silly.

We'll see how UF plays on the road against UK and then UF will get test in Baton Rouge in 3 weeks. If UF keeps making the mistakes they made last night, they'll get beat. If not, they'll keep winning.

 

[AFL2008]

And how is UF vulnerable in the secondary? In 2008, Crompton was 18-28, 162 yards, 1 INT

In 2009 Crompton is 11-19, 93 yards, 2 INT

SO how is UF weaker in the secondary?

 

[kptvol]

I just think the reaction here has been crazy and I've been arguing a point.

UF was winning 23-6, was dominating the game, and turned the ball over right before they put the final nail in the coffin.

A UT player knocked the ball out of Tebow's arms. We made a play. Gerald Jones, a junior, kept 4 points off the board by having a brainfart. It's not like UT played a perfect game and Florida made tons of freak mistakes.

 

[ZZ13]

I have to agree that by the numbers the two games were very similar. Unlike many Vols now wearing the moral victory smile, I never felt we were in the game with a chance to win. However, we moved faster, hit harder, and stayed sound the entire 60 minutes. Florida felt it this year - felt it hard. Last year, they went for a cruise.

 

[kptvol]

I don't mind people maybe thinking less of Florida now, but to say that suddenly Alabama is better just because of one off game by Florida seems silly.

We'll see how UF plays on the road against UK and then UF will get test in Baton Rouge in 3 weeks. If UF keeps making the mistakes they made last night, they'll get beat. If not, they'll keep winning.

I'd be more worried about Bama's running game. They have a better offensive line, two huge running backs, and some good WRs when you load up to stop the run.

 

[GmanTN]

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[BuckeyeVols]

I dont think UF fans should be worried about their offense. If certain UF fans thought UT was gonna come in there and give up 60+ points, that is their own ignorant fault. There wont be ANY offenses that look "good" against our defense, Period. I was impressed by CUM's class by telling Kiffin that our players played hard at midfield. Both defenses will be each teams strength this year, no question. Whether UF fans wanna admit it or not, the only big (and its admittedly HUGE) difference between these two teams is the guy playing QB for each team. UT basically had to go down there in the most hostile UF environment in the history of this rivalry and try to win the game without the benefit of the forward pass. If nothing else, this game was a tiny peek into the future. UF doesnt have just UGA to worry about in the East from here on out....and regardless if they admit it or not, the UF fans, staff and players no this without question. Go Vols, win out this season!!

 

[VolDad]

And how is UF vulnerable in the secondary? In 2008, Crompton was 18-28, 162 yards, 1 INT

In 2009 Crompton is 11-19, 93 yards, 2 INT

SO how is UF weaker in the secondary?

You are right. You guys had a spectacular game. It is just funny how nobody outside of the Gator Nation sees that (i.e., us, sports journalist, rivals, etc.).

 

[AFL2008]

UF might not even have to play Alabama. But last year, UF was soft in the middle and managed to beat bama, WITHOUT harvin.

I don't see why they couldn't do it again.

 

[AFL2008]

You are right. You guys had a spectacular game. It is just funny how nobody outside of the Gator Nation sees that (i.e., us, sports journalist, rivals, etc.).

UF didn't have a spectacular game. They turned it over 2 times. Blew TD chances in the red zone, etc...

But I was just commenting that I don't understand how people could say the secondary looked suspect.

UT did worse this year than last year passing the ball...

 

[tim]

AFL, the point you should be worried about is that if you were playing anyone with an offense you would have an L early in the season. You can argue the game was well in control but the final score does not indicate that.

If we had the next worst qb in the SEC yesterday you would have lost. I'm talking about KY's qb, AU's qb, Vandy's qb, MSU and so on. Pick anyone of them and place them in Crompton's position and you would have lost.

 

[jhunter11]

jeff luc was impressed with floridas gameday atmosphere but i think he will end up @ tennessee

 

[tim]

UF might not even have to play Alabama. But last year, UF was soft in the middle and managed to beat bama, WITHOUT harvin.

I don't see why they couldn't do it again.

Because Monte just taught everyone how to take the big play out of your offense.

 

[BuckeyeVols]

UF might not even have to play Alabama. But last year, UF was soft in the middle and managed to beat bama, WITHOUT harvin.

I don't see why they couldn't do it again.

I dont see anyone in the East upsetting UF if we couldnt do it......and I dont see anyone in the West beating Bama. What I do know, however, without question....if you guys do play Bama, you will definitely have to defend the pass, which you basically didnt have to worry about with us. I am VERY much looking forward to the eventual UF/Bama battle for the SEC Championship. That game will be an absolute knock down, drag out slugfest just like yesterdays UT/UF game was.....only Bama can actually throw the ball down the field. But, after seeing him yesterday, I will never bet against a team that has Tim Tebow behind center. He absolutely willed that offense to the win yesterday. Very impressed with him.

 

[crusse10]

You'll probably hate it and flame it, but sharing info and opinions is what this board is all about:

Why is everyone worried about UF's performance in this victory? Compare this years game to last years game:

2008
30-6 WIN
UF: 243 yards offense, 4.5 avg
Rushing: 147 yards, 38 car, 3.8 avg
Passing: 8-15, 96 yards, 2 TD
3rd down conversions: 8-13
1st downs: 16

2009
23-13 WIN
UF: 323 yards offense, 5.1 avg
Rushing: 208 yards, 44 car, 2 TD, 4.7 avg
Passing: 14-19, 115 yards, 1 INT
3rd down conversions: 8-13
1st downs: 20

So offensively, UF did better in every statistical offensive category except the score and turnovers. UF moved the ball way better on the ground and also a bit better through the air. In 2008 and 2009, UF converted the same number of 3rd downs.

SO why is everyone freaking out about the offense? UF really played a good game except for two bad turnovers where Tebow tried to force things and Tennessee took advantage of those mistakes.

Defensively:

2008
30-6 WIN
Total yards: 258 yards, 4.4 avg
Rushing yards: 96 yards, 31 car, 1 TD, 3.1 avg
Passing yards: 18-28, 162 yards, 1 INT
3rd down conversion: 4-11
1st downs: 16

2009
23-13 WIN
Total yards: 210 yards, 4.1 avg
Rushing yards: 117 yards, 32 carries, 1 TD, 3.7 avg
Passing yards: 11-19, 93 yards, 2 INT
3rd down conversion: 5-12
1st downs: 13

So defensively, the only thing Florida did worse against was the run, where Tennessee ran a little bit better this year. But they had less yards, less first downs, more 3 and outs, and more interceptions. Heck, Crompton in the Clawfense had better numbers in 2008 than in 2009!!!!

I'm not making excuses. These are the facts of the game. The UF offense performed more effectively against UT this year than last year and the UF defense controlled the UT offense better than in 2008. The biggest difference between 2008 and 2009 was turnovers.

In 2008, UT had 2 turnovers at the UF goalline. This year, UT had two turnovers, but not in an imminent scoring position. UF instead had a turnover at the UT goalline and another DEEP in their own territory. UF scored 10 points off of those two Gator miscues.

That happens in football. UT came in here focused and took advantage of some Gator mistakes. But don't get confused, UF still controlled this game, just like they did last year. The only differences were turnovers, and a lack of a Brandon James PR TD.

So let the media, who built up the unrealistic 28 point blowout expectations say that UF is overrated. Because the facts are in the numbers and in the game. UF controlled the game from start to finish. Even with the gator mistakes, UT never came close to winning.

In short, the rumors of the gator demise are greatly exaggerated and UF's rivals will be shocked if they come in thinking UF is worse than last year...


Anyways, just food for thought.

When everyone knows that Florida was prepared to put up 100 points (if possible), it becomes a problem. Everyone in blue was ready to see their beloved Gators drop triple digits on the Vols.
Everyone in the media was waiting for Urban's opportunity to call a timeout with 20 seconds left, just to make sure there's time to hit Hernandez over the middle 1 last time.
Urban was licking his chops the day Lane said "singing Rocky Top." Since then, he's been looking forward to introducing Lane to the pain that is Gator Bait.
Tebow, in his best T.O., was looking to stand up for Urban. (see: That's my quarterback)

The point is that everyone was ready for a beat down. Florida was prepared to do everything necessary to not only destroy the Vols, but to demoralize the Vols. Florida didn't do that. They didn't do any of it. They used timeouts because they needed them. They ran the ball because they needed to run it.
The Gators did what it took to win, and that's all they could muster. They struggled with a team that went 5-7 last year. They didn't live up to expectations, and that's why everyone is questioning them.

 

[Behr]

Dam, Faith Hill be lookin good tanite.

 

[VolDad]

Hear that noise?

That is the sound of the country laughing at the Gators!

 

[AFL2008]

AFL, the point you should be worried about is that if you were playing anyone with an offense you would have an L early in the season. You can argue the game was well in control but the final score does not indicate that.

If we had the next worst qb in the SEC yesterday you would have lost. I'm talking about KY's qb, AU's qb, Vandy's qb, MSU and so on. Pick anyone of them and place them in Crompton's position and you would have lost.

Maybe. I mean, if you believe that, good for you, but there is no way to know for sure. It's the same as me saying if UF doesn't turn the ball over they win by 40.
Either way its pointless.

 

[BeecherVol]

UF might not even have to play Alabama. But last year, UF was soft in the middle and managed to beat bama, WITHOUT harvin.

I don't see why they couldn't do it again.

Don't want to read too much into how you said that, but might not have to, sounds like, we don't want to.

Anyway. Say what you want. IF you do play them, and I think you will. Good Luck.:hi:

I have no ax to grind against UF, I dislike Bama even more.

 

[BuckeyeVols]

UF didn't have a spectacular game. They turned it over 2 times. Blew TD chances in the red zone, etc...

But I was just commenting that I don't understand how people could say the secondary looked suspect.

UT did worse this year than last year passing the ball...

Who in the world is saying the UF secondary didnt play well???? Please link me to it, because that has ot be one idiot writer. The UF secondary didnt even NEED to be in the damn game. CLK did not have the confidence in his QB to throw ANY passes beyond the LOS. That had more to do with our sorry excuse of a QB than it did with the UF secondary.....but noone can say they played "bad" because they basically didnt have to play at all.

 

[hixsonvol]

Congrats on the win Gators.

My thoughts after the game...

1. Despite your defensive stats of last year and this year, Florida's D looked very porous. We were one dimensional and still were able to move the ball and get first downs. I really thought your D would look better this year than last but it just didn't seem as strong.

2. We've got a ways to go. Until Crompton gets some confidence back and CLK gets confidence in Crompton, we could be in for a rough time offensively. After Saturday's game, I think teams will find a way to stop our run unless we can have a little more effective passing attack. Let's hope we can get that right against Ohio. As valiant as the effort was at every position yesterday, the QB position will nag us all year probably. If we go 7 and 5, I'll be very happy and CLK will have earned his pay this year given what he had to work with. I have no doubt though that these guys are well coached and more prepared than they have been in recent years.

3. Florida losses 2 SEC games this year. If Saturday was any preview of UF's SEC play, GA will eat them alive and pay CUM back for the timeouts last year, payback's a *****. I think they also lose to any team with any ressemblance of a 2 dimensional attack. On offense, Florida misses Harvin more than most realize. Without the deep threat, teams are going to be able to slow them down and outscore them.

4. As much as I hate to say it, Tebow for what he does and how he does it and the intangibles he has, may be the best college player I've ever seen. I'll be glad to see him gone!

Great job Vols. I felt very proud watching you Saturday and I really look forward to next year.

Oh and Kiffin pwnd (that's a slang word by the way)the world when he told Wolfson after the game that he couldn't hear her because the band was playing Rocky Top. That was the equivalent of giving the media the finger and I will love him forever for it.

 

[AFL2008]

But who created these expectations. Mostly eager ignorant fans and the media at large perpetrated this myth that Florida is amazingly unstoppable and can dial-a-score against any team they play.

I think the whole CFB has returned to a state of reality.

UF is still a good team.

 

[VolDad]

UF didn't have a spectacular game. They turned it over 2 times. Blew TD chances in the red zone, etc...

But I was just commenting that I don't understand how people could say the secondary looked suspect.

UT did worse this year than last year passing the ball...

We did not try to pass the ball. We are 1 dimensional. We ran it. You guys put 8 in the box and we were still successful running on your might Defense.