Good thread from UF message board

#51
#51
BuckeyeVols said:
Who in the world is saying the UF secondary didnt play well???? Please link me to it, because that has ot be one idiot writer. The UF secondary didnt even NEED to be in the damn game. CLK did not have the confidence in his QB to throw ANY passes beyond the LOS. That had more to do with our sorry excuse of a QB than it did with the UF secondary.....but noone can say they played "bad" because they basically didnt have to play at all.
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Someone in this thread said it. Go back and read it.
 
#52
#52
VolDad said:
We did not try to pass the ball. We are 1 dimensional. We ran it. You guys put 8 in the box and we were still successful running on your might Defense.
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Successful.... 117 yards... = pretty good, but not amazing. It's only 20 more yards than last year and UF loaded the box last year as well.
 
#53
#53
hixsonvol said:
Congrats on the win Gators.

My thoughts after the game...

1. Despite your defensive stats of last year and this year, Florida's D looked very porous. We were one dimensional and still were able to move the ball and get first downs. I really thought your D would look better this year than last but it just didn't seem as strong.
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The UF defense allowed fewer first downs and fewer yards to UT than last year. I don't see how they are porous.

UT scored 10 points off of 2 turnovers. The UF defense played fine.
 
#54
#54
AFL2008 said:
Maybe. I mean, if you believe that, good for you, but there is no way to know for sure. It's the same as me saying if UF doesn't turn the ball over they win by 40.
Either way its pointless.
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You simply can't argue the fact that we didnt pass the ball because our QB is terrible at his best. Yes, UF did have some turn overs.....but dont you think our defense had a little to do with that? You act like the UF offense just had a "bad day", and our defense wasnt part of the equation. Point blank, the UF offense had EVERY expectation and motivation to put up 60 on UT, and our defense simply wouldnt allow them to do it. We could play you 10 times, and UF would NOT put up the points that everyone seemed to expect them to. UF should be happy with the win, and you guys are an excellent, damn well coached, great team with a lot of leadership and heart.....but dont make it sound like the UT defense didnt have a little something to do with your lack of Offense on Saturday.
 
#55
#55
AFL2008 said:
Maybe. I mean, if you believe that, good for you, but there is no way to know for sure. It's the same as me saying if UF doesn't turn the ball over they win by 40.
Either way its pointless.
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Not exactly. Your turnovers were made by the best qb in the SEC and ours were from the worst. If you want to swap out qb's and play the game again, who would win?
 
#56
#56
AFL2008 said:
I just think the reaction here has been crazy and I've been arguing a point.

UF was winning 23-6, was dominating the game, and turned the ball over right before they put the final nail in the coffin.

It's not an excuse, it happened, and UT capitalized.

But to think that the score indicates that UF is vulnerable is just strange to me. The pretty much moved the ball at will most of the day. They had two drops in the red zone that made them take FG's instead of TD's and they had turnovers.

This is one game.

I don't mind people maybe thinking less of Florida now, but to say that suddenly Alabama is better just because of one off game by Florida seems silly.

We'll see how UF plays on the road against UK and then UF will get test in Baton Rouge in 3 weeks. If UF keeps making the mistakes they made last night, they'll get beat. If not, they'll keep winning.
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the score didnt say that UF was vunerable,,the fact that they knew we where gonna run and we did it anyways,,well that speaks volumes considering our banged up O line,,wait till ya see a better O line,,what then?
 
#57
#57
The UT defense still gave up yards. And if not for Tebow's mistakes which are uncharacteristic of him, UF gets the points to go with those yards.

It is basically a matter of opinion whether the turnovers were more a mistake by Tebow, or more a statement by the UT defense.
 
#58
#58
AFL2008 said:
The UF defense allowed fewer first downs and fewer yards to UT than last year. I don't see how they are porous.

UT scored 10 points off of 2 turnovers. The UF defense played fine.
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Why was a one dimensional offense allowed to get first downs? Hardesty shouldn't have even come close to 100 yds but did. With 8 in the box basically the entire game, that isn't porous?
 
#59
#59
volintears said:
the score didnt say that UF was vunerable,,the fact that they knew we where gonna run and we did it anyways,,well that speaks volumes considering our banged up O line,,wait till ya see a better O line,,what then?
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UT had 117 yards rushing. 117... Only 21 yards better than last year.
 
#60
#60
So let me get this straight, what your saying is UF plaid better then last year, and UT plaid
worse? But yet we only lost by 10 points???

Wow that just makes our point even more realistic
 
#61
#61
AFL2008 said:
Successful.... 117 yards... = pretty good, but not amazing. It's only 20 more yards than last year and UF loaded the box last year as well.
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You guys did not put 8 in the box last year. We were playing from far behind last year and Clawson/Fulmer were slinging it around the field.
 
#62
#62
AFL2008 said:
The UT defense still gave up yards. And if not for Tebow's mistakes which are uncharacteristic of him, UF gets the points to go with those yards.

It is basically a matter of opinion whether the turnovers were more a mistake by Tebow, or more a statement by the UT defense.
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The INT by Berry had little to do with a Tebow miscue. He threw that ball well, Berry just made a great play. The fumble wasn't some freak accident, either.
 
#63
#63
AFL2008 said:
The UF defense allowed fewer first downs and fewer yards to UT than last year. I don't see how they are porous.

UT scored 10 points off of 2 turnovers. The UF defense played fine.
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NOT,,considering the competition.Not trying to down us but n way that all returning D should have got run over like that when they knew what was coming,,you did return all 11 starters right?
 
#64
#64
AFL2008 said:
Someone in this thread said it. Go back and read it.
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I'll take your word for it. Whoever that came from, obviously doesnt know football. UF has a great secondary, but so does UT. I would have loved to see this matchup again if UT had ANY of its past QB's behind center instead of Crapton (and that even includes the Clausen brothers). I used to have a venomous hate for anything UF....but after hearing the respect the UF players and coaches gave UT after the game in interviews....I will be pulling for them to win it all this year (as long as that doesnt cause some recruits to jump ship!) Your players play hard and clean. Damn good football team. If any teams beats you, they will have ot have more heart and will than Tebow....and I dont see that happening.
 
#65
#65
hixsonvol said:
Why was a one dimensional offense allowed to get first downs? Hardesty shouldn't have even come close to 100 yds but did. With 8 in the box basically the entire game, that isn't porous?
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WTH. UT had 13 FD's all game. 13! That's it! It's not like they had a ton of long sustained drives.

They had 2 long drives all game. A lot of those rushing yards came on 3 plays, 2 of which came when UF trotted out the nickel defense expecting to see pass on 3rd and long and got gashed on the outside run. 19 yards for 1st down in the 1st, 20 yards for 1st down in the 4th.

The 17 yard TD run in the 4th was the only big play against the 8 man front.
 
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AFL2008 said:
UT had 117 yards rushing. 117... Only 21 yards better than last year.
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We had those rushing yards without ANY.... that would be ZERO threat of the forward pass. I dont care if we are playing WKU again....when the other teams knows you not only need to run it, but that you HAVE to run it..... and they still dont absolutely stop you, thats a good testament to you O-Line.
 
#67
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AFL2008 said:
The UT defense still gave up yards. And if not for Tebow's mistakes which are uncharacteristic of him, UF gets the points to go with those yards.

It is basically a matter of opinion whether the turnovers were more a mistake by Tebow, or more a statement by the UT defense.
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AFL, I really do respect you and you have valid points at times. But, please leave the "What If's" alone, we can both do what if's all night and it won't mean a hill of beans.
 
#68
#68
hixsonvol said:
AFL, I really do respect you and you have valid points at times. But, please leave the "What If's" alone, we can both do what if's all night and it won't mean a hill of beans.
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I agree. That's what I was trying to say. Sorry! :good!:
 
#69
#69
BuckeyeVols said:
We had those rushing yards without ANY.... that would be ZERO threat of the forward pass. I dont care if we are playing WKU again....when the other teams knows you not only need to run it, but that you HAVE to run it..... and they still dont absolutely stop you, thats a good testament to you O-Line.
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The UT oline played much better this week than last week. That much is for sure. Motivation maybe play a factor there?
 
#70
#70
I am shocked that someone could watch yesterday's game and the 2008 game and not see the difference.
 
#71
#71
AFL2008 said:
WTH. UT had 13 FD's all game. 13! That's it! It's not like they had a ton of long sustained drives.

They had 2 long drives all game. A lot of those rushing yards came on 3 plays, 2 of which came when UF trotted out the nickel defense expecting to see pass on 3rd and long and got gashed on the outside run. 19 yards for 1st down in the 1st, 20 yards for 1st down in the 4th.

The 17 yard TD run in the 4th was the only big play against the 8 man front.
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If your coach ever got in a nickel against our offense, he is not a smart as I thought.
 
#72
#72
Only time will tell,,but FL sure didnt look like they where the number 1 team in the nation IMO.but then again maybe they did and we have just improved that much,,guess we will see as the season moves along.
 
#75
#75
AFL2008 said:
WTH. UT had 13 FD's all game. 13! That's it! It's not like they had a ton of long sustained drives.

They had 2 long drives all game. A lot of those rushing yards came on 3 plays, 2 of which came when UF trotted out the nickel defense expecting to see pass on 3rd and long and got gashed on the outside run. 19 yards for 1st down in the 1st, 20 yards for 1st down in the 4th.

The 17 yard TD run in the 4th was the only big play against the 8 man front.
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I dont see why its so hard to give UT ANY credit for what we were able to accomplish in Saturdays game. The entire world expected UF to blow UT out....and you guys didnt. You can blame it on UF playing "badly"...but the other 11 guys across the line of scrimmage in white jerseys had a LOT to do about it, regardles if you want to admit it or not. Next year we will have more talent and experience at every position except SS, and you will be in our house. We will be looking forward to that. :)
 
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