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You'll probably hate it and flame it, but sharing info and opinions is what this board is all about:

Why is everyone worried about UF's performance in this victory? Compare this years game to last years game:

2008
30-6 WIN
UF: 243 yards offense, 4.5 avg
Rushing: 147 yards, 38 car, 3.8 avg
Passing: 8-15, 96 yards, 2 TD
3rd down conversions: 8-13
1st downs: 16

2009
23-13 WIN
UF: 323 yards offense, 5.1 avg
Rushing: 208 yards, 44 car, 2 TD, 4.7 avg
Passing: 14-19, 115 yards, 1 INT
3rd down conversions: 8-13
1st downs: 20

So offensively, UF did better in every statistical offensive category except the score and turnovers. UF moved the ball way better on the ground and also a bit better through the air. In 2008 and 2009, UF converted the same number of 3rd downs.

SO why is everyone freaking out about the offense? UF really played a good game except for two bad turnovers where Tebow tried to force things and Tennessee took advantage of those mistakes.

Defensively:

2008
30-6 WIN
Total yards: 258 yards, 4.4 avg
Rushing yards: 96 yards, 31 car, 1 TD, 3.1 avg
Passing yards: 18-28, 162 yards, 1 INT
3rd down conversion: 4-11
1st downs: 16

2009
23-13 WIN
Total yards: 210 yards, 4.1 avg
Rushing yards: 117 yards, 32 carries, 1 TD, 3.7 avg
Passing yards: 11-19, 93 yards, 2 INT
3rd down conversion: 5-12
1st downs: 13

So defensively, the only thing Florida did worse against was the run, where Tennessee ran a little bit better this year. But they had less yards, less first downs, more 3 and outs, and more interceptions. Heck, Crompton in the Clawfense had better numbers in 2008 than in 2009!!!!

I'm not making excuses. These are the facts of the game. The UF offense performed more effectively against UT this year than last year and the UF defense controlled the UT offense better than in 2008. The biggest difference between 2008 and 2009 was turnovers.

In 2008, UT had 2 turnovers at the UF goalline. This year, UT had two turnovers, but not in an imminent scoring position. UF instead had a turnover at the UT goalline and another DEEP in their own territory. UF scored 10 points off of those two Gator miscues.

That happens in football. UT came in here focused and took advantage of some Gator mistakes. But don't get confused, UF still controlled this game, just like they did last year. The only differences were turnovers, and a lack of a Brandon James PR TD.

So let the media, who built up the unrealistic 28 point blowout expectations say that UF is overrated. Because the facts are in the numbers and in the game. UF controlled the game from start to finish. Even with the gator mistakes, UT never came close to winning.

In short, the rumors of the gator demise are greatly exaggerated and UF's rivals will be shocked if they come in thinking UF is worse than last year...


Anyways, just food for thought.
 
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its going to be total domination for tennessee next year and is there any recruiting news out there i would have figured we got one recruit
 
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Last years game was over when we fumbled before halftime.

Stats are decieving.

Good example. See Mannings stats vs. UF in the 96' game. Off the wall.

We were behind by 35 points in the 2nd Quarter.
 
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Interested thread......but you can throw out the numbers, and look at the results......

UT was 2-3 plays of being in a winning position....last year, they were done after the first 10 minutes, and UF just didn't even try in the 4th quarter, or barely in the 3rd.......this year, UF was lucky to win....

JMO
 
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Florida had a short field every possession last year, twice on the goal line, and only got 30. This year they scored 23 and had to work a little for it. To me, it shows the quality of our defense rather than Florida "controlling" the game.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Last years game was over when we fumbled before halftime.

Stats are decieving.

Good example. See Mannings stats vs. UF in the 96' game. Off the wall.

We were behing by 35 points in the 2nd Quarter.
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Exactly. We were down by 20 points at halftime last year. It was still a game at halftime this year.
 
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tabrams said:
Interested thread......but you can throw out the numbers, and look at the results......

UT was 2-3 plays of being in a winning position....last year, they were done after the first 10 minutes, and UF just didn't even try in the 4th quarter, or barely in the 3rd.......this year, UF was lucky to win....

JMO
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To quote you as well, we were 2-3 plays from it being on the verge of a blowout. Had Tebow not fumbled and we punch it in, it is now 30-6 at that point.

Overall it was a great defensive game and chess match. We were hurt when Spikes went out early in the game with the leg injury. Your guys did play focused.
 
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You played better this year & still almost lost hmmmm tells me that we improved some. No matter which way you say it or deny it Tennessee was 2-3 plays away from upsetting Florida.
 
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Yeah.

Basically, the big difference between 2008 and 2009 was the following:

No PR TD.
No early UT turnover.
Early UF turnover in their own 20.
Turnover battle 2008: UF +3,
Tunrover battle 2009: UF/UT 2 each
 
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But I just liked this guys point. A lot of people aren't thinking too highly of UF right now, and I just don't see why. Except for two turnovers, I thought UF played a solid game against a strong defense, just like last year.

I think if UT hadn't imploded last year, the score would have been closer and no one would have ever predicted a blowout in 2009. Funny how those things work out. It'll be interesting to see how good UT is going forward now with Auburn and UGA looming.
 
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If I was a gator, I would be worried about not being able to stop a running game that you saw coming a mile away. Our RBs are comparable to Bama's, but their OL and passing game are better.

And their D ain't no slouch either.

Go on thinking it was the flu, or a bad day, or UM being conservative, or even CLK playing not to lose. Ya'll got some issues that must be fixed before you win the conference.
 
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In 2008 the foot was clearly removed from the gas. I saw no point where the Gators had a comfortable enough lead to do that. Even if they had a big lead, the goal was always a monumental blowout.
 
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UF is till the team to beat, but the margin of difference is smaller than I once thought.
 
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Difference between this year and last year - we were out of it at halftime last year, this year we were fighting to the end. This years stats are better for UF's offense because of that.
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Excuses, excuses, excuses..Gator guy..What happened to the brutal beating and 100 points Gators were supposed to score?
 
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jmoore_21 said:
You played better this year & still almost lost hmmmm tells me that we improved some. No matter which way you say it or deny it Tennessee was 2-3 plays away from upsetting Florida.
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Let's see 2-3 plays when you were trailing the whole game?!?! It was more like 2-3 plays of making it too close for comfort. All in all, I think it is safe to say the game didn't turn out like most thought it would.
 
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Godfatha said:
Difference between this year and last year - we were out of it at halftime last year, this year we were fighting to the end. This years stats are better for UF's offense because of that.
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We were out of it before the first quarter ended in 2008.
 
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The best football team ever couldn't beat the lowly Vols by more than 10 points...No bragging points here gator man.
 
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AFL2008 said:
Yeah.

Basically, the big difference between 2008 and 2009 was the following:

No PR TD.
No early UT turnover.
Early UF turnover in their own 20.
Turnover battle 2008: UF +3,
Tunrover battle 2009: UF/UT 2 each
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Don't forget, Timmy didn't throw a TD pass. We broke his 30 game streak.

By the way, if the gators have nothing to worry about, why do you guys spend so much time trying to make your case?

We are not "happy" that we only lost by 10, all of that crap come from the guys that make a living reporting news in a way they think it will sell. No one in the VN
is happy about the loss. We are (I am) just glad we are moving forward. We are an optimistic bunch, and after all the HYPE before the game, a 10 point loss (compared to 28.5 to 60), is encouraging and we have REAL hope. That's it, nothing more and nothing less. Now, Geeta!!
 
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tng8r said:
Let's see 2-3 plays when you were trailing the whole game?!?! It was more like 2-3 plays of making it too close for comfort. All in all, I think it is safe to say the game didn't turn out like most thought it would.
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I would agree on the game being different. I did not see us running as well, especially with UF knowing that was all we could do.

Plays that made the game

1. Crompton missing Jones down the sideline, could have been a TD, or at least a FG. Turnover instead.
2. Jones running out of bounds in the endzone, missed a chance for big momentum in the game.
3. Tebow's scrabble for the 1st down, he made a great play, but we should have got him down.
4. Cut block penalty on 1st down, we can't make a 1st and 25.

UF had a few as well, those 4 killed us.
 
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