Gillespie is out

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I'd be good if we got Weinke with his inroads to the IMG Academy for much better recruiting of some stud players.

The hardest part of a RB coach is teaching them to read the D so they can get their blocking down and protect the QB.

Every guy that ever played QB should easily be ale to teach the RB's.

Relax people and let Pruitt do his job for his staff.

I was happy with keeping RG too but he's gone now so wish him the best and look forward to seeing how Pruitt will replace him.

You just might get excited over the replacement.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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butchna said:
Like a Rodney Garner type? I tend to agree. Gillespie has always been viewed as an easy fit. He’s affable and knowledgeable, so I wasn’t surprised he was retained. Someone mentioned the slightly odd Anthony Grant recruitment. My theory is that Gillespie went to bat for his kid and he flipped anyway. That led to bad dynamics afterwards.
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Yeah, maybe he was on a sort of probation until after NSD, or maybe the move was inevitable in Pruitt's mind from early on but the scenario had to be played out like that. Either way, good luck to Gillespie and thanks for your service.
 
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If anyone has watched documentary's on the great Peyton Manning at practice you will see him drill into his rb's repeatedly on assignments. He once said to a RB "if you want to ever see the field do as i tell". So if it's WIENKE trust Pruitt decision.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Serious question - how many times does UT need to change the culture to be successful? I personally think coaches use that as an reason for losing way too much.

Need a coach that will take a look at the players we have and figure out how to maximize the use of that talent on game day. I thought he was that type of coach - but now hearing the culture argument again - which was a Jones thing as well.
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Serious answer- as many times as necessary to change it from a broken, losing culture like Jones left, to a strong, thriving, championship culture.
 
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peaygolf said:
Why all the love for Gillespie? With the RB talent UT has had, and the lack of real production at that position? Come on. Yes...the rb position was the lone "bright" spot in the past few yrs, but it wasn't very bright!

There are tons of really good running backs out there. How important is a RB coach anyway. Is he going to coach a guy to run over someone, out run a linebacker to the edge, juke a db, or see a hole? NO. A good OL coach can make me or you look like a great RB coach.

I think he only had one yr left on his contract. He didn't get a bump in salary and maybe he wanted to move on as well.
He was a good recruiter, but I trust CJP will find someone just as good, if not better.
He'll find a new job quickly.
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Any RB is only as good as his OL. When UT's OL situation is straightened out the running game will be productive.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Any RB is only as good as his OL. When UT's OL situation is straightened out the running game will be productive.
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Yes and no. For example, Alvin Kamara and John Kelly would produce much, much more behind a good OL than Marlin Lane and Rajion Neal. Same with Jamal Lewis vs Mark Levin, etc, etc.

So yeah, gotta have some room to maneuver, but obviously, a more talented, dynamic running back will do more with that room than an average to below average one.
 
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butchna said:
Since assistant coaches are extensions of the HC and affect his win/loss record, they should serve at his behest. Butch’s early narrative was hiring and loyalty to his buddies. Smart completed a similar move with Tracy Rocker. I don’t see how not going forward with a RB’s coach swerves from evaluating and developing talent. If he did it in the middle of Spring practices maybe. In any case, I doubt Pruitt uses the switch to excuse any of his losses...since he’s hiring the replacement. :hi:
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I could be wrong but I dont see CJP as the type to make an excuse for any of his losses. No more of this "resiliency" or young team crap.

More likely, "Sadly, we just didnt get it done today and thats on me. We clearly need to keep working on some areas and focus our development on blah blah blah. I promise you this, though, we are going to make adjustments and we are gunna gitter done, Aaaight? :rock:
 
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volfan102455 said:
Serious question - how many times does UT need to change the culture to be successful? I personally think coaches use that as an reason for losing way too much.

Need a coach that will take a look at the players we have and figure out how to maximize the use of that talent on game day. I thought he was that type of coach - but now hearing the culture argument again - which was a Jones thing as well.
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All new coaches change the culture. Some change it to a winning culture. Others just change it to a different kind of losing culture.
 
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Vol8188 said:
This isn’t turmoil. Assistants leave all the time, look at Bama. This is normal. You’re just a drama queen
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Probably need to reevaluate your definition of a drama queen since I have already moved on and have been talking about Weinke as a replacement.

Meanwhile, you're up at 4 am responding.
 
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Yesterday on 104.5 in Nashville, Doug Mathews said, " A monkey could coach running backs. I should know, I did."

I tend to trust his opinion. He "coached" Johnnie Jones, Chuck Webb, and Reggie Cobb.
 
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peaygolf said:
Yesterday on 104.5 in Nashville, Doug Mathews said, " A monkey could coach running backs. I should know, I did."

I tend to trust his opinion. He "coached" Johnnie Jones, Chuck Webb, and Reggie Cobb.
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That's a good list
 
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KBVol said:
Yes and no. For example, Alvin Kamara and John Kelly would produce much, much more behind a good OL than Marlin Lane and Rajion Neal. Same with Jamal Lewis vs Mark Levin, etc, etc.

So yeah, gotta have some room to maneuver, but a more talented, dynamic running back will do more with that room than an average to below average one.
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I was thinking of Tony Thompson in 1990 after Webb went down. No way he would have been All-SEC if not for the OL.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Serious question - how many times does UT need to change the culture to be successful? I personally think coaches use that as an reason for losing way too much.

Need a coach that will take a look at the players we have and figure out how to maximize the use of that talent on game day. I thought he was that type of coach - but now hearing the culture argument again - which was a Jones thing as well.
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If you hire the right coach to begin with? 1
It sounds simplistic, but its not rocket science. If you don't, there is not some magical number til you finally have it. You either secure that coach or you don't. UT hasn't with their last 3 hires. And this one is yet to be determined.

You first need to define culture. If it is defined by the elements that make up what you are as a program, then yes. We needed a culture change after Dooley. You got one in Jones that didn't equal Dooley but still left a severe gap between you and the top in more than one area. 4-8 is plenty of evidence to support that. Why that culture (Jones) should remain with a new coach at the helm should not even be a question pitched.

As to your last comment. Jones received grace for 2 seasons because he was dealing with a roster that Dooley recruited and developed. What held over didn't all fit Jones' "culture" by evidence of his recruiting and fielding a lot of FR and So in his early seasons. If it made sense then, Im not sure why it doesn't now.
 
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butchna said:
Like a Rodney Garner type? I tend to agree. Gillespie has always been viewed as an easy fit. He’s affable and knowledgeable, so I wasn’t surprised he was retained. Someone mentioned the slightly odd Anthony Grant recruitment. My theory is that Gillespie went to bat for his kid and he flipped anyway. That led to bad dynamics afterwards.
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From what I understand there wasn't a plan for him to stay long term.
 
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Bluff City Vol said:
I get your point , but I wouldn't diminish what Tony Thompson did. He was a really good back.
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absolutely not!!!!

He had a great year......and Antone Davis was on the OL in 1990 as well...... Holy Crap...wish he had eligibility left!
 
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smokey0625 said:
I'm sure he was in there demanding Hurd be sat down. C'mon man. You're blind. Butch has the call but I doubt rg demanded it.

I blame everyone involved. Coaching malfeasance.
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Butch was a control addict and pretty much pressed everyone for what he wanted done.dont think RG was thst ad of a coach to not play kamara his first yesr and then under utilize him there after.....come on
 
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peaygolf said:
Yesterday on 104.5 in Nashville, Doug Mathews said, " A monkey could coach running backs. I should know, I did."

I tend to trust his opinion. He "coached" Johnnie Jones, Chuck Webb, and Reggie Cobb.
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So hire a monkey and leave David Johnson at WR’s.
 
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