Gerrymandering in Virginia

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BowlBrother85 said:
Are you really this thick?

Anyone who has ever been to Memphis knows how racially segregated it is. That is a reality.

Republicans in Tennessee have gerrymandered the district map in such a way as to guarantee that most black voters in Memphis, will have NOBODY who resides in their individual towns representing them in the House of Representatives.

That was done completely by design and it is absolutely racist.
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The old 9th district was gerrymandered in 1967 (because of the clause in the act that the Supreme Court struck down) to be the only district in Tennessee that was exclusively an urban population center and solely on the base of skin color. Racist.
Stop being racist.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Why do you weigh all things through the lens of skin color? That is really racist.
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PROJECTION : verb .... The unconscious act of attributing one's own unacceptable feelings , impulses, or traits onto another person.

^^^^ THIS ^^^^ is becoming increasingly common among Republicans/Conservatives/Trump supporters. It's done on this forum all the time by people who are void of self-awareness.
 
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rikberry31 said:
The old 9th district was gerrymandered in 1967 (because of the clause in the act that the Supreme Court struck down) to be the only district in Tennessee that was exclusively an urban population center and solely on the base of skin color. Racist.
Stop being racist.
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To eliminate that district solely based race = racist.

There is that projection thing again. LOL.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is not what I said at all.

It is racist to gerrymander a district map in such a way as to guarantee that a vast majority of black voters in Memphis will not have anyone from their individual towns representing them in the House of Representatives.

Once again, we all know how racially segregated the greater Memphis area is.
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But what if the Republican black woman is from their town? Is it still racist?

Chappelle is going to have to dust off the Clayton Bigsby costume if this keeps going.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is exactly what Republicans have done.
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Can you link to that, please? Anything that says they wanted it redistricted based on race as opposed to just their political party advantage. My understanding is that they stated that race is not a legal reason to prevent them from redistricting. Not that they are redistricting based on race. There is a huge difference.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Can you link to that, please? Anything that says they wanted it redistricted based on race as opposed to just their political party advantage. My understanding is that they stated that race is not a legal reason to prevent them from redistricting. Not that they are redistricting based on race. There is a huge difference.
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I have not discussed legalities. I'm not an attorney and I have never stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

I'm saying that the district map was drawn with race in mind, with the purpose of reducing how important the votes of blacks are in the individual towns of Memphis in which the majority of them live .... and that is racist.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
PROJECTION : verb .... The unconscious act of attributing one's own unacceptable feelings , impulses, or traits onto another person.

^^^^ THIS ^^^^ is becoming increasingly common among Republicans/Conservatives/Trump supporters. It's done on this forum all the time by people who are void of self-awareness.
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Buddy I don't even believe there is such a thing as different races, it is concept invented by eugenic racist nazis. We are all one race, the human race, homosapiens.
If dogs can figure it out then humans should too, it is about culture not race. If a pitbull and a poodle are raised together they will get along, even though the are physically worlds apart. If two pitbulls raised in different households meet, they fight, even though they look exactly the same.
Quit being racist, there is no such thing. Judge people on their deeds and not their skin.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
But what if the Republican black woman is from their town? Is it still racist?

Chappelle is going to have to dust off the Clayton Bigsby costume if this keeps going.
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This has NOTHING to do with the race of the candidates.

For at least the 3rd time now ....

I'm talking about how the district map was drawn in such a way as to guarantee that the vast majority of black voters in Memphis will not have anyone from their individual communities representing them in the House of Representatives.

I didn't say that it was illegal. I said that it was racist .... and it is.
 
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OHvol40 said:
How many more people want to make the same invalid point? I think you’re the third now. Sorry, it’s just redundant.

Nobody is arguing that there is a loss of the right to vote, it’s losing the right to choose a representative that answers to constituents that have commonality. Commonality in geography, culture, lifestyle, and (how about just plain old) proximity.

Do you know what gerrymandering is? That’s what just happened to Memphis, intentionally, expeditiously (before the midterms), between census years, having nullified a portion of the Voting Rights Act, with all the maps being redrawn in EXACTLY the same places that featured Jim Crow the most. If this doesn’t stink to you, I can’t help you.
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Here's the problem with at least some of said leadership, specifically Antonio Parkinson's statement recently disenfranchises your statement in the second paragraph. It can be argued that he was taking about all people from Memphis but that's not the narrative he and others are pushing.

It's about consolidating power, Democrats and Republicans have been doing this for decades. It stinks but I think framing this as a racial or white supremacy act is missing the point entirely.

My question to People from Memphis would be the same as my question to those from my district. Has voting for people like _________ based on party line made things better for you and your city/geographical area?

My area is facing some challenges from immense growth and failure to first deliver on investment in infrastructure to support it.

I know Memphis is having some challenges as well, high crime, scandals, budget shortfalls and debt.

My question is why do we keep voting for people who mismanage for us, it's truly a fascinating insight into psychology.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm saying that the district map was drawn with race politics in mind, with the purpose of reducing how important the votes of blacks democrats are in the individual towns of Memphis in which the majority of them live .... and that is racist politics.
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Changed to the real reason.

If Memphis was previously voting in a R candidate, nothing would have been changed.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This has NOTHING to do with the race of the candidates.

For at least the 3rd time now ....

I'm talking about how the district map was drawn in such way as to guarantee that the vast majority of black voters in Memphis will not have anyone from their individual towns representing them in the House of Representatives.

I didn't say that it was illegal. I said that it was racist .... and it is.
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Their color is beside the point though. It's the party of the candidates they vote for. Just as it is for majority white voters in other districts that were redrawn. This was to consolidate for the party.

If that Memphis district voted Republican Democrats would be looking to split it for their benefit. It's literally that simple.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Why do you weigh all things through the lens of skin color? That is really racist.
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Because that is what is happening. The local Republican establishment is begging for Taylor to run. They've seen Bergman get no traction in the past against Cohen and even underperformed Rs in the suburban Memphis districts.

They've seen what happens when an Republican AA runs in rural districts in GA, KY, and VA. The R voters dont show up. That's not me being racist. That is calling out what has already happened in 3 other states.

And you calling someone racist is extremely ironic...
 
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rikberry31 said:
The fact that skin color makes any difference to a person is the definition of racist. Darwin was wrong, the Nazis were wrong, and you are wrong. Project that.
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Race certainly does make a difference to Republicans when they are drawing district maps.

I'm not sure if it's been changed or not, but the state of North Carolina once had a district shaped like a 250 mile two-headed snake. It's purpose could not have been any more clear ... Republicans were trying to put as many black voters in North Carolina as they possibly could into a single district.
 
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The population density for much of the state has changed over the last 50 years. Come to your own conclusion....which I'm sure will change no one's position.


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KB5252 said:
Their color is beside the point though. It's the party of the candidates they vote for. Just as it is for majority white voters in other districts that were redrawn. This was to consolidate for the party.

If that Memphis district voted Republican Democrats would be looking to split it for their benefit. It's literally that simple.
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🐂 💩

It is much easier to see what is really going on in a city as racially segregated as Memphis is.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This has NOTHING to do with the race of the candidates.

For at least the 3rd time now ....

I'm talking about how the district map was drawn in such a way as to guarantee that the vast majority of black voters in Memphis will not have anyone from their individual communities representing them in the House of Representatives.

I didn't say that it was illegal. I said that it was racist .... and it is.
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It’s not about race, but then you made it about race.

Clayton Bigsby come on down….
 
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#946
BowlBrother85 said:
I'm saying that the district map was drawn with race in mind, with the purpose of reducing how important the votes of blacks are in the individual towns of Memphis in which the majority of them live .... and that is racist.
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I said:

Orange_Crush said:
Can you link to that, please? Anything that says they wanted it redistricted based on race as opposed to just their political party advantage. My understanding is that they stated that race is not a legal reason to prevent them from redistricting. Not that they are redistricting based on race. There is a huge difference.
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#947
The root of the problem is not gerrymandering. The root is there are too few districts and too few reps for constituents. At the establishment of the constitution, there was one rep for about 30,000 citizens. To follow that design, we need about 12,000 congressional reps. There are 435 currently.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
But she could. Since we are guessing at this point, anyone is welcome to run regardless of their skin color or any other identifiable characteristic.
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Honestly, it's going to be Brent Taylor (once he pulls the petition). He has the local parties support, infrastructure, and $$$. He will have the state and national $$$ support.

It was drawn in a way to get him this spot. I dont see a viable rural R challenging him in the primary.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
🐂 💩

It is much easier to see what is really going on in a city as racially segregated as Memphis is.
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Specifically what part is bull crap? Are you really going to tell me you believe that if Memphians voted Republican Democrats wouldn't seek to break up the district for their benefit?

This is politics. The only thing that matters is power. It's not about race, it's drawing maps that consolidate power for the party with power. Just as it is with Democrat controlled states. There is no difference, the intent is always the same.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
🐂 💩

It is much easier to see what is really going on in a city as racially segregated as Memphis is.
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As long as you filter everything through race. A general look at the politics looks like this:

AI Overview
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In presidential elections over the past 20 years (2004–2024), Memphis has consistently voted for the Democratic Party candidate. [1, 2]
While the state of Tennessee has voted Republican in every presidential election since 2000, Memphis—located in Shelby County—functions as a Democratic stronghold, often providing the highest vote shares for Democratic candidates in the state. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • 2024: Kamala Harris won Shelby County.
  • 2020: Joe Biden won 64.4% of the vote in Shelby County, the highest for a Democrat since 1944.
  • Previous Elections: Memphis has maintained this trend, driven by high support from African American voters. [1, 2, 3]
  • Local Politics
    Memphis has elected Democratic mayors since 1992, and the majority of the city is represented by a Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives. [1, 2]
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If Memphis was a Republican stronghold, the Rs would have whistled right on by, no matter the racial breakdown. It is politics, plain and simple.


 
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