Fulmer's Quotes

#376
#376
Is it entirely possible that we could hire a HC who doesn't carry a grudge for forty years, who doesn't whine and boo-hoo-hoo like a petulant child, who can stay for more than a year. Who isn't an a**clown? I think we just did. Can you ever imagine DD acting those ways?
 
#377
#377
Keep in mind this is the same Phil Fulmer that claimed the offense made good strides after losing 6-3 at Alabama in '05. He can take his 9 wins comment and shove it up his ass along witht the 10 pounds of sausage that's made it's way down toward the exit.
He should man up and admit that a large part of the problem and the main reason he was forced out is because of the lack of talent everyone could see coming up....as in this year. Had Phil been at the helm last year the Vols would have been 5-7 and sitting at home yet again.
 
#378
#378
Vol Mania 21 said:
i didn't hate fulmer when he was fired. i felt bad for him, even tho i agreed w/ the decision to let him go. i have to say with fulmer not taking any blame for letting the program slip to the crapper, but yet making comments about TN, it's starting to make me have a strong dislike for the fat f***
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I feel the same as you. It was the right move but I was somewhat sad it had come to this.
Now, he's pissing me off because the majority of our problems started with him, yet he likes to sit back and talk like he had nothing to do with all this.

Ill always respect CPF because he took this program to new heights, but damn he keeps making it harder every time he opens his mouth.
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#379
#379
VolinDawgland said:
I was at the SECCG where we folded like a cheap tent in front of the 'juggernnaught', not' that was LSU. That game was a perfect microcosm of all that was wrong with Fulmer and I was physically ill after that game as I new the jig was up with Fulmer and that he wasn't going anywhere anytime soon. Fulmer went on to reenforce that understanding with emberrassing displays of coaching ineptitude in two consecutive Peach Bowls against inferior competition. Fulmer had lost control of the team and of the program itself. The program under Fulmer at that point was just living off of reserves built up through 1998 and really built more through Peyton's influence than Fulmer's. Once all the players that had any connection to Peyton and the 1998 team were gone, this program was finished. Fulmer had no answer, none. That's a fact supported by data not opinion.

A good coach would have had that collection of talent in the NC hunt in 1999 and to the NC game in 2001 and would have done more with the Clausen/Henderson/Haynesworth era.

2005 was simply proof for all those in too much denial to see, plain as day, that Fulmer had lost control of the program and an unsentimental athletic board and AD would have thanked him for his service to the school and taken the keys to the program away from him. At that age, he would probabably have been able to land another job which would have been better for everyone.
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In 1999, we were the 3rd most talented team in the SEC; in 2001, we were the 4th. The fact Vol fans didn't understand or care to understand that other programs had real talent is evident when you define "national title" talent by just two defensive lineman (one so tempermentally inconsistent he didn't make a single all-SEC team) and a QB who couldn't get drafted or even make a practice squad roster in the NFL.
 
#380
#380
why does everybody make fun of fulmer for saying "work like heck" when kif*** says "neat" in almost every sentence
 
#381
#381
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
And I'd rather have a team which is unranked but building back toward a championship level than to have a ranked team which is being taken straight down the toilet.
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I love the "building back" nonsense -- it basically encourages fans to love miserable teams in the name that they are "building back" toward greatness while blasting teams that are actually quite good merely because they are not title contenders. Makes it easy for an AD to just jerk fans along, hiring then blaming every new coach with promises the next guy "just needs time" before he "builds it back" again.
 
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#382
vegasvol said:
i love the "building back" nonsense -- it basically encourages fans to love miserable teams in the name that they are "building back" toward greatness while blasting teams that are actually quite good merely because they are not title contenders. Makes it easy for an ad to just jerk fans along, hiring then blaming every new coach with promises the next guy "just needs time" before he "builds it back" again.
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amen
 
#383
#383
Lexvol said:
Don't you guys know that ADs all over the country are in bidding wars to hire Cut's staff away from Duke?
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I don't think Cut's staff was anything to write home about nor do I believe AD's collective judgment is worth a hill of beans in judging coaching talent (Ron Zook has had more job opportunities than Mike Leach), but Cut's DC was hired as a HC within two years of his Duke tenure.
 
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#384
Carl Pickens said:
Keep in mind this is the same Phil Fulmer that claimed the offense made good strides after losing 6-3 at Alabama in '05. He can take his 9 wins comment and shove it up his ass along witht the 10 pounds of sausage that's made it's way down toward the exit.
He should man up and admit that a large part of the problem and the main reason he was forced out is because of the lack of talent everyone could see coming up....as in this year. Had Phil been at the helm last year the Vols would have been 5-7 and sitting at home yet again.
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Phil would have won 9 games last year, and if he were still here, the team would be deeper, stronger, and more competitive today.
 
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#386
BigPapaVol said:
can you even imagine having to resort to saying such silly crap? Who, but the losers, so often proclaim victory or greatness. It's like living with Kim Jong Il.
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You're a real winner. Just look at that Fulmer-less Tennessee team out on the field this Saturday.
 
#387
#387
utvolpj said:
wrong, he wanted to bring in the Duke coaching staff and thank god MH stood up to him on that.
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That wasn't the cut point for Cut; it was MH in general and larger doubts about taking over at UT.

FYI: I'm nor arguing for Cut at UT; I'm saying its pretty bad when coaches in his position prefer Duke over UT for any reason.
 
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VegasVol said:
That wasn't the cut point for Cut; it was MH in general and larger doubts about taking over at UT.

FYI: I'm nor arguing for Cut at UT; I'm saying its pretty bad when coaches in his position prefer Duke over UT for any reason.
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coach cutt's sister-in law is a former teacher of mine and her husband told me that UT talked to him about the job and did not actually come out and offer it to him.
 
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#389
VegasVol said:
That wasn't the cut point for Cut; it was MH in general and larger doubts about taking over at UT.

FYI: I'm nor arguing for Cut at UT; I'm saying its pretty bad when coaches in his position prefer Duke over UT for any reason.
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Too right!
 
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#390
utgibbs said:
Phil would have won 9 games last year, and if he were still here, the team would be deeper, stronger, and more competitive today.
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You keep saying it. You keep claiming the facts back it up... and yet it still isn't true.

Fulmer lost his OC and his edge after the NC. Sanders was a horrible hire and the beginning of CPF's down fall. Fulmer liked the "mama" role. Cut played "dad".

Fulmer lacked the will to hold people accountable.

One good way to completely blow up your contention is to simply track points per season over the course of Fulmer's tenure. A blind man could see that Sanders was costing UT winnable games... but Fulmer could not. Sanders should have been gone after the loss to LSU.

Another way is to look at team discipline both on and off the field.

The two things a HC is most responsible for are team discipline (especially on the field) and hiring/holding accountable the right staff. UT's decline was primarily because Fulmer failed miserably at both except when Cut came back and their chemistry was briefly restored.
 
#391
#391
Cut wanted his guys which would have cost UT Chaney and at the time Kippy probably played into that equation too. UT said no. Cut chose loyalty to marginally competent coaches. Admirable. Stupid... but admirable.
 
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#394
VegasVol said:
I love the "building back" nonsense -- it basically encourages fans to love miserable teams in the name that they are "building back" toward greatness while blasting teams that are actually quite good merely because they are not title contenders. Makes it easy for an AD to just jerk fans along, hiring then blaming every new coach with promises the next guy "just needs time" before he "builds it back" again.
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It's a matter of preference.

Let's say pizza is my favorite food, grapes are my second favorite, and fried okra is third. This is hypothetical. Fulmer let me eat pizza once when pizza was pretty easy to get. That's all. For ten years I was forced to eat grapes with the occasional fried okra here and there. No pizza. Ever. Now, I'm forced to eat fried okra for awhile, with a good likelihood of getting pizza sometime in the near future, or at least, a better chance of getting it with Fulmer.

FSU had a good run in the 90s, but Nebraska ended up with more championships. You think Bobby Bowden would've traded 5 winning seasons for 1 more championship? I do. He always got his team wins, then choked along the way at some point.

You bring up talent, but now, with all the money in CFB, it's coaching that separates winners and losers.
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#395
#395
VegasVol said:
In 1999, we were the 3rd most talented team in the SEC; in 2001, we were the 4th. The fact Vol fans didn't understand or care to understand that other programs had real talent is evident when you define "national title" talent by just two defensive lineman (one so tempermentally inconsistent he didn't make a single all-SEC team) and a QB who couldn't get drafted or even make a practice squad roster in the NFL.
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Who besides Florida had as much talent as us in 1999 and 2001?
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#398
#398
VegasVol said:
In 1999, we were the 3rd most talented team in the SEC; in 2001, we were the 4th. The fact Vol fans didn't understand or care to understand that other programs had real talent is evident when you define "national title" talent by just two defensive lineman (one so tempermentally inconsistent he didn't make a single all-SEC team) and a QB who couldn't get drafted or even make a practice squad roster in the NFL.
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Clausen had a noodle arm, but he was plenty good enough to play college ball. Worley won't be getting drafted either, but he's got a chance to be a good Vol QB.

I'd be interested to know which 3 SEC teams were more talented than UT in 2001.
 
#399
#399
kptvol said:
Clausen had a noodle arm, but he was plenty good enough to play college ball. Worley won't be getting drafted either, but he's got a chance to be a good Vol QB.

I'd be interested to know which 3 SEC teams were more talented than UT in 2001.
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none of them IMO
 
#400
#400
utgibbs said:
Phil would have won 9 games last year, and if he were still here, the team would be deeper, stronger, and more competitive today.
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You have as your sole support for that statement a bunch of results from over ten years ago when we had the greatest offensive player of our generation quarterbacking the Vols and one team in the SEC capable of challenging us. On the other side are statements from Phil Fulmer, Dave Clawson, Jon Crompton, Josh Briscoe, Mike Hamilton, and others actually involved in the program.
 
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