Fulmer's Quotes

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#427
sjt18 said:
You keep saying it. You keep claiming the facts back it up... and yet it still isn't true.

Fulmer lost his OC and his edge after the NC. Sanders was a horrible hire and the beginning of CPF's down fall. Fulmer liked the "mama" role. Cut played "dad".

Fulmer lacked the will to hold people accountable.

One good way to completely blow up your contention is to simply track points per season over the course of Fulmer's tenure. A blind man could see that Sanders was costing UT winnable games... but Fulmer could not. Sanders should have been gone after the loss to LSU.

Another way is to look at team discipline both on and off the field.

The two things a HC is most responsible for are team discipline (especially on the field) and hiring/holding accountable the right staff. UT's decline was primarily because Fulmer failed miserably at both except when Cut came back and their chemistry was briefly restored.
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SJT,

Let's look at the facts.

1. Hired a HC-level assistant in Clawson. Without the Hambone Experiment - it's a bowl season with the worst future NFL QB in living CFB memory.

2. The team would be deeper, stronger, more competitive today. It cannot be argued with any intellectual honesty.

3. Randy sacrificed himself for 2005; that's holding people accountable.

We could go on and on to show how the real world just doesn't fit with the ideology of Fulmer Hate.

Let's look around: Urban has discipline problems. Richt has never achieved the heights of Fulmer, and he seems to be falling faster and lower. CFB is cyclic, and Fulmer, despite the better, faster, stronger SEC had us competing in the SECCG.

This was the danger of the Hambone Experiment - fully covered by VegasVol - Calhoun, Muschamp, Cutcliffe etc all said no. Bringing in a hack like Kiffin. It fell apart.
 
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kptvol said:
He's getting murdered there, too. The Endzone better get ready.
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It's hysterical to read y'all's shtick sometimes. I have a little giggle when sjt tries to figure out who I am.

So far, the best moment on Politics was someone was, I think (not 100% sure), trying to prove me wrong by posting a graph of data. The data actually proved the point I was trying to make.

It's kinda like the GoF - y'all always slip up and end up either contradicting yourself or supporting my point.
 
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#431
utgibbs said:
SJT,

Let's look at the facts.

1. Hired a HC-level assistant in Clawson. Without the Hambone Experiment - it's a bowl season with the worst future NFL QB in living CFB memory.

And then tried to "marry" his own system to Clawson's, didn't allow Clawson to bring in his own coaches, and basically didn't have Clawson's back when the rest of the coaches didn't support him and influenced players to follow.

2. The team would be deeper, stronger, more competitive today. It cannot be argued with any intellectual honesty.

Phil struggled with recruiting DTs long before he was fired. He couldn't get an OL to play well since 2004.

3. Randy sacrificed himself for 2005; that's holding people accountable.

Not when he never should have been hired in the first place and should have been shown the door after 2 years tops. Phil himself admitted he'd planned on firing him sooner.

We could go on and on to show how the real world just doesn't fit with the ideology of Fulmer Hate.

Let's look around: Urban has discipline problems.

Thank goodness Fulmer was so great at handling that stuff.

Richt has never achieved the heights of Fulmer, and he seems to be falling faster and lower.

Call me when Richt manages to have 2/4 losing seasons.

CFB is cyclic, and Fulmer, despite the better, faster, stronger SEC had us competing in the SECCG.

This was the danger of the Hambone Experiment - fully covered by VegasVol - Calhoun, Muschamp, Cutcliffe etc all said no. Bringing in a hack like Kiffin. It fell apart.
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Calhoun is your only legitimate argument of those three and even that is stretching it as Troy would have had to be a complete dick to his current team in order to accept UT's offer. Muschamp didn't want to give up sure fire success for a rebuilding project. Cutcliffe would have come, but Hamilton didn't want to agree to his ridiculous terms. Kiffin brought in some of the most desirable coaches in America, wonder how that happened. Either Kiffin rocks, or UT isn't so bad.
 
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#432
utgibbs said:
It's hysterical to read y'all's shtick sometimes. I have a little giggle when sjt tries to figure out who I am.

So far, the best moment on Politics was someone was, I think (not 100% sure), trying to prove me wrong by posting a graph of data. The data actually proved the point I was trying to make.

It's kinda like the GoF - y'all always slip up and end up either contradicting yourself or supporting my point.
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The only point you've ever made is to randomly declare victory, randomly declare data supports your argument with either no explanation or a completely idiotic explanation. You also occasionally like to piggyback VegasVol, who I think has also realized you are a complete fool.

Face it, when you claimed the 70s were the height of football mediocrity, you lost. Your only counter argument has been to point out a typo on UT's website and to flat out lie about the number of wins and losses during that decade.
 
#433
#433
utgibbs said:
SJT,

Let's look at the facts.

1. Hired a HC-level assistant in Clawson. Without the Hambone Experiment - it's a bowl season with the worst future NFL QB in living CFB memory.
2. The team would be deeper, stronger, more competitive today. It cannot be argued with any intellectual honesty.

3. Randy sacrificed himself for 2005; that's holding people accountable.

We could go on and on to show how the real world just doesn't fit with the ideology of Fulmer Hate.

Let's look around: Urban has discipline problems. Richt has never achieved the heights of Fulmer, and he seems to be falling faster and lower. CFB is cyclic, and Fulmer, despite the better, faster, stronger SEC had us competing in the SECCG.

This was the danger of the Hambone Experiment - fully covered by VegasVol - Calhoun, Muschamp, Cutcliffe etc all said no. Bringing in a hack like Kiffin. It fell apart.
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Everything you just said has absolutely no basis in reality at all. None. It's all a interwoven set of hypotheticals and other nonsense that can't be argued with any real basis in a real world setting.

And let's look around. Urban will be fine as soon as he figures out the identity he wants for his program after Tebow. Richt might be on the hotseat, but he's still winning at a clip that the O'Mighty Pumpkin couldn't accomplish his last 5 years.

Oh wait, Richt actually has 2 SEC titles this decade. What do you know?
 
#435
#435
I want a simple answer to a simple question. Fulmer wants to coach, and has since his forced resignation. Why doesn't he have a job?
 
#436
#436
what he said +1

Was interested in the USF gig, but was not even brought in for a formal interview.
 
#437
#437
VegasVol said:
I love the "building back" nonsense -- it basically encourages fans to love miserable teams in the name that they are "building back" toward greatness while blasting teams that are actually quite good merely because they are not title contenders. Makes it easy for an AD to just jerk fans along, hiring then blaming every new coach with promises the next guy "just needs time" before he "builds it back" again.
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as to oppose to Fulmer's teams being ranked with high expectations only to watch them end up not in the top 25 at the end of the year? man that's a lot of fun
 
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Lexvol said:
I want a simple answer to a simple question. Fulmer wants to coach, and has since his forced resignation. Why doesn't he have a job?
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because AD's aren't as smart as VegasGambler and Gibbs' kids. Have you not been paying attention?
 
#439
#439
utgibbs said:
It's hysterical to read y'all's shtick sometimes. I have a little giggle when sjt tries to figure out who I am.

So far, the best moment on Politics was someone was, I think (not 100% sure), trying to prove me wrong by posting a graph of data. The data actually proved the point I was trying to make.

It's kinda like the GoF - y'all always slip up and end up either contradicting yourself or supporting my point.
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If you were actually winning any debates then people would be starting to see your wisdom and begin agreeing with you. Instead your ilk seems to be down to “Five”. People obviously see through your charade.
 
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VolDad said:
If you were actually winning any debates then people would be starting to see your wisdom and begin agreeing with you. Instead your ilk seems to be down to “Five”. People obviously see through your charade.
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I have won the debates. That is why the GoF follow me wherever I go to protect their ideology.

I have certainly seen through the GoF charade.
 
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#441
utgibbs said:
I have won the debates. That is why the GoF follow me wherever I go to protect their ideology.

I have certainly seen through the GoF charade.
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Careful, jokes tend to get old after the 700th time.

Remember when you won that argument about UT jettisoning a bunch of starters at BCS schools? Or the time you claimed the 2000s were miles ahead of the 70s? Or that Dabo Swinney said Boyd was in competition for first string? Wait, you did win those arguments, right?
 
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