Fulmer's Quotes

#351
#351
eazyTD said:
Wrong.
LSU was far from loaded. Yes,they were improving but they were nowhere near where they are today. I think 01 was only Saban's 2nd season so he hadn't had time to stock the roster.
UGA wasn't close either.

Our talent was MILES above Georgia and LSU that season.
Auburn,you are correct on, but I didn't mention them and we didn't play them again until 2003 so that's a moot point.

Wasn't Alabama on probation at this time also?

Considering our talent and the state of the SEC at that time, we rightfully should have had a title or bust mentality.
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LSU was a lot more talented in 2001 than they are today. Dinardo actually closed out with two top-5 recruiting classes before his poor coaching got him canned and Saban added two top five classes in 2000 and 2001. A little recap of the NFL or All-conference talent on that 2001 roster:

OL: Williams-Winey-Peterman-Baggett
RB: Williams-Toefield
WR: Reed-Clayton-Henderson
TE: Royal-Edwards
QB: Davey-Mauck
DL: Green-Allen-Lavalis-Hill-Spears
LB: James-Faulk-Alexander
DB: Clark-LeBlanc-Mayes-Booker-LeJeune-Daniels-Webster-Gay-James

Many of those guys are still in the league almost a decade later. It was actually one of the most talented rosters of the decade for any program anywhere.
 
#353
#353
VegasVol said:
According to the experts on here, winning 9-10 games isn't enough. Then get used to lots and lots of coaches hitting the road for a long, long time at UT.
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Not when that's your high water mark during a period of 13, 14 game seasons.
 
#355
#355
utgibbs said:
Next time we get to the SECCG, we will be ecstatic to be playing in Atlanta; next time, I guarantee the outcome won't matter, and it will be "relevant" again.

Next time..... I hope we aren't in for a USC type wait.
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Well, SC does have a coach that's beaten Urban. We were possibly in for a longer wait.
 
#357
#357
VegasVol said:
Badly wrong on LSU; they were already loaded by 2001. Wrong on Georgia; Donnan had recruited very well there and Richt with his then defensive coordinators in perfect position to climb up fast. Auburn was the natural profiteer from Bama's decline more than us.

But of course the problem is the whole title-or-bust mentality that will have us sub-South Carolina football very fast.
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It's not 'title or bust', it was the no title and continual one way slide into mediocraty and worse. The very fact that you and those like you keep whining about Fulmer's belated firing is evidence of fans who'd grown to accept mediocraty. Fulmer wasn't going to fix the problems that he, and only he, had created. The fact that fixing those problems have proven to be difficult is more of an example of the degree of the problems Fulmer left us than the necessary change itself.

Go crawl back into your safe place where everyday is 1998; you'll be much happier there and we can get on with supporting this coach and team through the tough years left us by Fulmer's incompetence.
 
#359
#359
VolDad said:
The tone of this thread shows what an effective job you have done winning the summer debate. It appears the number of Fulmer supporters is down to “Five”.
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can you even imagine having to resort to saying such silly crap? Who, but the losers, so often proclaim victory or greatness. It's like living with Kim Jong Il.
 
#361
#361
VegasVol said:
So you'd prefer to be unranked completely, every year. Kudos! What wonderful "relevance."
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what is sad is there are fans like you out there that think that bc we were ranked in the preseason that it should count for something. even tho w/ fulmer we wld drop out of the top 25 by the end of the year. pathetic.
 
#362
#362
I was at the SECCG where we folded like a cheap tent in front of the 'juggernnaught', not' that was LSU. That game was a perfect microcosm of all that was wrong with Fulmer and I was physically ill after that game as I new the jig was up with Fulmer and that he wasn't going anywhere anytime soon. Fulmer went on to reenforce that understanding with emberrassing displays of coaching ineptitude in two consecutive Peach Bowls against inferior competition. Fulmer had lost control of the team and of the program itself. The program under Fulmer at that point was just living off of reserves built up through 1998 and really built more through Peyton's influence than Fulmer's. Once all the players that had any connection to Peyton and the 1998 team were gone, this program was finished. Fulmer had no answer, none. That's a fact supported by data not opinion.

A good coach would have had that collection of talent in the NC hunt in 1999 and to the NC game in 2001 and would have done more with the Clausen/Henderson/Haynesworth era.

2005 was simply proof for all those in too much denial to see, plain as day, that Fulmer had lost control of the program and an unsentimental athletic board and AD would have thanked him for his service to the school and taken the keys to the program away from him. At that age, he would probabably have been able to land another job which would have been better for everyone.
 
#363
#363
VegasVol said:
So you'd prefer to be unranked completely, every year. Kudos! What wonderful "relevance."
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I'd prefer to win the SEC championship at least twice in a decade. It was painfully obvious that it was never going to happen again with Jaba in charge. And for the record, being ranked in the back end of the top 25 means nothing.
 
#365
#365
what in the hell are you people doing belittling the beauty contest rankings that are actually worth less than tits on a boar? Those are the ultimate measure of everything. Hell, Boise is actually the 3rd best team in America.
 
#366
#366
utvolpj said:
wrong, he wanted to bring in the Duke coaching staff and thank god MH stood up to him on that.
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don't bother with pesky crap like facts. Pull up a half season of stats or some irrelevant season long polling silliness and you have an argument.
 
#367
#367
Don't you guys know that ADs all over the country are in bidding wars to hire Cut's staff away from Duke?
 
#368
#368
Lexvol said:
Don't you guys know that ADs all over the country are in bidding wars to hire Cut's staff away from Duke?
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I'm trying to hire them just for the credibility angle. My real fan status has been revoked and the only way back is a Fulmer staff retread. We're at an impasse on the staff salaries. I'm saying they should be free and Cutcliffe has balked but can't come up with a reason for me to pay them. Wish me luck.
 
#369
#369
if cutcliffe was a great coach, he wouldn't have been fired from ole miss and would have gotten a better offer than lowly duke.
 
#370
#370
Cutcliffe is a great coach, just not a great head coach. He is an excellent offensive cord, and develops qbs as good as anyone in the business.

To take this full circle, Fulmer's lack of replacing Cut with a quality cord was monumental in his firing as stated by others.

Thus shouldn't Hamilton be held accountable in his utter failure in replacing Fulmer? (I like Dooley, but the K***n hire is unacceptable)
 
#372
#372
BigPapaVol said:
what in the hell are you people doing belittling the beauty contest rankings that are actually worth less than tits on a boar? Those are the ultimate measure of everything. Hell, Boise is actually the 3rd best team in America.
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And their fans are satisfied. You don’t hear talk of them trying to be there at the end. Oh wait.
 
#373
#373
volduff said:
Cutcliffe is a great coach, just not a great head coach. He is an excellent offensive cord, and develops qbs as good as anyone in the business.

To take this full circle, Fulmer's lack of replacing Cut with a quality cord was monumental in his firing as stated by others.

Thus shouldn't Hamilton be held accountable in his utter failure in replacing Fulmer? (I like Dooley, but the K***n hire is unacceptable)
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I don't know if it was so much a lack of a quality coordinator as it was a lack of a coordinator who could bring instant results. Clawson has a complex system and Phil did his part to interfere with it the whole time. Now, if he'd hired the Michigan guys and snagged Mallett in the process... Things would look different...
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#374
#374
utgibbs said:
It's theory supported by data, actually.

And it's VN wisdom as well given we voted 90% / 10% that we were farther behind since the Hambone Experiment.

GSM.
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Hiring Kiffin was a mistake. Firing Fulmer was not.
 
#375
#375
i didn't hate fulmer when he was fired. i felt bad for him, even tho i agreed w/ the decision to let him go. i have to say with fulmer not taking any blame for letting the program slip to the crapper, but yet making comments about TN, it's starting to make me have a strong dislike for the fat f***
 
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