Fulmer getting an extension as AD

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KBVol said:
He committed as a player when he made no money, he was an assistant coach well before there was any significant money, at all, in the profession. He began making a ton of money after having phenomenal success as a head coach, when he became the first head coach to make $1mm iirc. And now, when the 65 year old Fulmer has all the money he’d ever need and then some, and needs the stress of being UT’s AD like he needs a freaking hole in the head, after being treated more than once like complete ish over the last 10 years from his UT “family”, he agrees to lead a pathetic UT athletic department in severe disrepair.....which is a huge, daunting job for a semi-retired 65 year old man.

I firmly reject the idea that his commitment to Tennessee over the majority of his lifetime is analogous to a necessarily crooked politician who goes into “public service” with the expressed purpose of lining his pockets. We often see examples of politicians who somehow leave the profession of politics with a $10-12mm net worth while being paid $100-150mm a year for a decade or so. I don’t believe I see the comparison.
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The comparison is they both stay in service, not because they have more love for their country / university than other folks, but because they like the power and it feeds there ego. I gave almost 40 years to the same company. Started when I was 18 yrs old and worked until retirement. They treated me well, paid me a fair salary, and I wanted them to do well (and continue to want them to do well). Still I wouldn't say I gave my life for said company. Is this any different than Fulmer or a politician?
 
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orangefloyd said:
He has zero accomplishments and no reason at this point to think he will. Yeah give him an extension. Its the UT way.
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This pretty well sums it up.

He has no resume whatsoever as an athletic director and, if his hires when he was head coach are any indication, he's going to be too stubborn to admit a mistake when he makes it.

But he makes it feel like '98 around here so lets sign him up for 10 years!!

Speaking of mistakes, wonder if Sanders is off suspension at ETSU yet?
 
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KBVol said:
So much damn hate and utter stupidity for an all-time great Vol who loves his university and has taken over the freaking tire fire that has been the Vol AD and stabilized it.

Thank God Philip Fulmer, after being ished on multiple times despite essentially giving his life to the university of Tennessee, swallowed his pride and was there ready to help lead Vol athletics out of the gutter when asked.

And instead of being grateful, we got blithering idiots on here running him through the mud. Thank God the other 95% of us appreciate Fulmer and take the exact opposite, and correct, opinion of him.
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Correct.
 
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KBVol said:
He committed as a player when he made no money, he was an assistant coach well before there was any significant money, at all, in the profession. He began making a ton of money after having phenomenal success as a head coach, when he became the first head coach to make $1mm iirc. And now, when the 65 year old Fulmer has all the money he’d ever need and then some, and needs the stress of being UT’s AD like he needs a freaking hole in the head, after being treated more than once like complete ish over the last 10 years from his UT “family”, he agrees to lead a pathetic UT athletic department in severe disrepair.....which is a huge, daunting job for a semi-retired 65 year old man.

I firmly reject the idea that his commitment to Tennessee over the majority of his lifetime is analogous to a necessarily crooked politician who goes into “public service” with the expressed purpose of lining his pockets. We often see examples of politicians who somehow leave the profession of politics with a $10-12mm net worth while being paid $100-150mm a year for a decade or so. I don’t believe I see the comparison.
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Thanks KB. The analogy to a politician was a crass one and I'm happy to see how thoroughly you trashed it.
 
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a vol n tears said:
The comparison is they both stay in service, not because they have more love for their country / university than other folks, but because they like the power and it feeds there ego. I gave almost 40 years to the same company. Started when I was 18 yrs old and worked until retirement. They treated me well, paid me a fair salary, and I wanted them to do well (and continue to want them to do well). Still I wouldn't say I gave my life for said company. Is this any different than Fulmer or a politician?
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Career politicians who serve for love of country or community are unfortunately a dying breed; that field is now dominated by those whose primary motivation is self-enrichment/aggrandizement.

Mr. Fulmer, as KB says, did not need the money and indeed must still have a lot of love for UT in spite of having been kicked to the curb in a way that would have killed that love in a lesser man. So give him some respect please.
 
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a vol n tears said:
The comparison is they both stay in service, not because they have more love for their country / university than other folks, but because they like the power and it feeds there ego. I gave almost 40 years to the same company. Started when I was 18 yrs old and worked until retirement. They treated me well, paid me a fair salary, and I wanted them to do well (and continue to want them to do well). Still I wouldn't say I gave my life for said company. Is this any different than Fulmer or a politician?
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You stayed with that company for 40 years because they treated you well and paid you a fair salary, as you said, right? Did you ever work for them when they didn’t pay you....like Fulmer did as a player for UT in the 1970s? While he committed to play for them in return for a free education, he wasn’t being paid a salary and he went to play for them because he loved the university and program....something I’ve heard him say countless times over and over again over the years...that he loves the university and program, like I do and like I assume you do as well.

Also, did that company, after you had given them years and years of successful, dedicated service ever treat you, publicly, disrespectfully and like complete ish?.....at least twice?

And after they did, when you had a ton of money and were beyond set for retirement and no longer needed to work for them, no longer needed the salary they could offer you, and certainly no longer needed the stress of an incredibly demanding job....did agree to go back to work for them even though you knew it would be going back to help clean up a grease fire?

No offense, but if you can’t answer yes to all of those, then, imho, you can’t compare the two situations.
 
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#89
His job is now brand ambassador now that the sign is down (it is down, right?) There won't be any more work on the football team for a while and he's not going to shake things up with the Lady Vols. If his presence makes fans feel warm and fuzzy about his life-long association with the program, that is something right there. Worth the money? Your call.
 
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#90
He gave his life to ut??? Haha. Ut paid for his life period. Is he better than Currie or hart? Absolutely. My point is as long as he doesn’t try to meddle in football too much give him a chance. Giving him a chance doesn’t mean opening your checkbook to him. He has accomplished nothing of record as an ad. I wish my boss would give me a fat raise for accomplishing nothing. Now if he does well, pay him. Otherwise quit giving money away. Also those of you that think he is in this job for anything other than his ego are out of your mind. He loves the power
 
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Fulmer isn't the Mother Teresa of UT sports like some want to paint him on here.

What exactly has he been doing the past 10 years that offers the spot light of being back in Knoxville?

He saw a chance to jump back into that spotlight with Curries bumbling around with hiring a coach and all the in fighting and took it without a second thought. Like most coaches, the man does have a super sized ego on him.
 
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Malivol said:
I think it is a huge mistake. The game passed him by years ago. He won by overwhelming talent and David Cutcliffe. He has a grudge about getting fired and will be meddling every chance he gets. Pay him 300k a year on a year to year contract. If he behaves, Renew his contract, if not, send him packing. It’s not like he’s a hot commodity not has he ever been since he was fired.
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I'm in agreement with you, but the coupe de tete has already happened. Plus, it's not like the overthrown were putting the high quality hardware in the trophy cases.

So in absence of any hard evidence of impropriety, I am staying in wait and see mode. As to the game passing him by, well, he ain't the coach. Thank God, because I agree, he was found lacking without Cut.

If as AD the program becomes dominate, I will give him his due. But if he screws up, we can be the two old geezers in the balcony at this Muppet Show.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
This pretty well sums it up.

He has no resume whatsoever as an athletic director and, if his hires when he was head coach are any indication, he's going to be too stubborn to admit a mistake when he makes it.

But he makes it feel like '98 around here so lets sign him up for 10 years!!

Speaking of mistakes, wonder if Sanders is off suspension at ETSU yet?
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He got a reprimand. Issued an apology.
 
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Slydell said:
No he didn't. They fulfilled the contractual obligations when they fired him too soon. While a coach at UT, he donated a million dollars to UT. How many coaches here have done that?
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He donated the year before he was fired
 
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