From Mr. SEC.com - Tennessee implicated on some tapes...

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easyvol said:
Is this the same as you guys trying to implicate us in the Albert Means situation? That worked out well for you didn't it?
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Only if Cecil Newton is working for Alabama. You see guy, it's not really where the the tapes are played, but rather what they say and what they can prove.

I do see these tapes making it to the national airways, eventually. The court of public opinion will get a good look at how the NCAA does their business and makes all these fair and so-called impartial judgments. Can't wait.
 
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#28
Bullshiz, I'll believe this one when I see something more credible.
 
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I still don't see how this lands UT in any hot water unless there is actual documented proof of us offering Cam money. Someone simply saying on tape that we had is far from concrete evidence of an offer having been made. Even for all the foolish things he did on the recruiting trail I'm fairly certain that LK isn't stupid enough to leave an actual paper trail to something like that.
 
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You all realize that there was a federal investigation into all of this, right? If there are tapes such as these, and they were originally withheld, Kenny Rogers would be facing prison time.

I don't believe it.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Only if Cecil Newton is working for Alabama. You see guy, it's not really where the the tapes are played, but rather what they say and what they can prove.

I do see these tapes making it to the national airways, eventually. The court of public opinion will get a good look at how the NCAA does their business and makes all these fair and so-called impartial judgments. Can't wait.
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Finebaum talked about it this morning on a local station in Nashville. He said he didn't feel like this is credible.
 
#32
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part of me thinks it BS, the 3 Bama radio hosts I am familiar with suck (Finebaum,Del GReco and Thom Abraham) so why should this dude be any different? Could be trying to upstage finebaum and take advantage of UT while they are down. If you are an outsider at this point why wouldnt you think they would be guilty.

Also at that point Kiff told Tajh Boyd to take a hike, while he wasnt quite as highly regarded as Newton they were both scramblers and he was after the 6'6 blue blonde hair white kid.
 
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I can't imagine in todays world ANYONE thinking they could get away with something like this, offering money to get a player. And right now, the most important thing is, we are mentioned so that is damning enough even if it turns out untrue. My guess is Ole Cecil was trying to make a buck, I dont think Auburn paid him, I dont think we paid him...I just think he was trying to make $$$. Is there any proof that he got money or even got an offer from a school, I mean, other than from his mouth. Geez...i just kinda want to stop reading stuff and watching ESPN for a few months...Its like watching a bad wreck, you just cant stop watching.
 
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Like others have said, this doesn't compute. Newton was not the type of QB Kiffin wanted. That was made very clear. If he really did make an offer to Newton, then I can't imagine what a guy like Bryce Brown must have been getting paid to be the back up for Hardesty.
 
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Either the part about us is untrue, or Kiffin was literally offering everybody money. And, if it were the latter, we would have been busted during the investigation.
 
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Kiffin is such a scumbag I could believe he might have done something like this, but since Newton didn't come here I don't see anything coming of it. Even if something does come back to us then we can just pin it on Kiffin like we have done with our recent violations. Either way, he is an STD that just won't go away. :banghead2::banghead2:
 
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TIFWIW - some Auburn contacts I know say that Cecil threw Oklahoma's name in there as well. The conventional wisdom is that Cecil threw out the names of every school that publicly expressed interest in his son just to try and make it sound like there was a bidding war. Knowing that none of the "competitors" would try to validate the others' bids ensured Cecil's scam would last longer. While there could have been some tomfoolery involved, most who are aware of this are saying this is nothing new and does more to play against Cam's image for the NFL than anything. The thought of this coming out now is more bitterness against Cecil and trying to hit Cam's stock than anything.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
The conventional wisdom is that Cecil threw out the names of every school that publicly expressed interest in his son just to try and make it sound like there was a bidding war. Knowing that none of the "competitors" would try to validate the others' bids ensured Cecil's scam would last longer.
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I'm not going to say that money was never offered or accepted at any point by one or more schools . . . but I think you just nailed it.
 
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615 Vol said:
Cam really wasn't the type of QB Tennessee was looking for. No one could have predicted that he would be a Heisman winning and National Championship QB and Tennessee was looking for a pro-style QB. Why would Tennessee pay 150,000 for a guy they didn't think fit their system?

Who's to say that Cecil Newton wasn't just claiming that Tennessee offered to drive up the price for Cam to another school?
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and why would they offer to pay a guy they quit recruiting long before he chose Auburn.
 
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First off, I don't believe this. Second, even if true, do we really think that Kiffin would have let himself get outbid by a douche like Chizik? Say what you want about him, but he generally gets his man. I highly doubt that 30k would have been a big enough deal breaker to make them settle on Simms over Newton. It's simple economics, low supply equals high price and high demand.
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#42
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We need to figure out a way to get Alabama a pro sports franchise so their sports media will have something to do other than act like Jerry Springer and turn everything involving college football coverage into a soap opera.
 
#43
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This boils down to Scams Dad trying to bluff his way in to some $. Someone needs to dig real hard in to that money that his church supposedly got
 
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GAVol said:
We need to figure out a way to get Alabama a pro sports franchise so their sports media will have something to do other than act like Jerry Springer and turn everything involving college football coverage into a soap opera.
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Sadly, this is Alabama we're talking about. No professional sports franchise will ever have anything to do with them because there is no city in the state that could support one.
 
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volatil said:
Finebaum talked about it this morning on a local station in Nashville. He said he didn't feel like this is credible.
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What we have is a bonafide, certified confession from Cecil Newton that he shopped his son to Miss. St. We have the NCAA telling USC and the college football world that any parent soliciting money on behalf of the player is an agent. If the parent ASK for benefits, it is considered the same as the player. USC is no doubt going to their appeals process sighting this obvious inconsistency in judgment.

The NCAA is in deep public opinion hockey, as we speak and have heard much negative criticism from even conference commissioners on this ruling. Given that these people all sleep in the same room, it's unprecedented. When these tapes and investigation goes public, I hope the NCAA has more than some explaining to do.

Now, Tennessee and what they can prove, who knows. But nobody does the off season like the vols.
 
#47
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GAVol said:
Does Bama fan really want to get into a debate about off season woes?
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Pot, meet kettle. I love how once an embattled program finds themselves a semblance of normalcy and stability, they act like the previous decade didn't happen.
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I'll be honest. I'll be pretty stunned if Tennessee is affected by this. If anyone takes a hit, it would be Auburn, anyways.
 
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615 Vol said:
Cam really wasn't the type of QB Tennessee was looking for. No one could have predicted that he would be a Heisman winning and National Championship QB and Tennessee was looking for a pro-style QB. Why would Tennessee pay 150,000 for a guy they didn't think fit their system?

Who's to say that Cecil Newton wasn't just claiming that Tennessee offered to drive up the price for Cam to another school?
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He said, she said, he said, she said.... Newton's father telling someone that someone has offered more money hardly qualifies as an implication against Tennessee. IF, the tapes contained recording of a UT coach, booster ect making the offer that would be a whole different scenario. But a players father who was obviously shopping his son around, found a person interested in paying and then proceeded to "bid" up the price hardly qualifies as a credible source!
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orangegrass said:
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This could be very interesting. It is the last thing we need right now. Another accusation against a program that is already in trouble with the NCAA. I hope it is not true.
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If this is it, it is nothing but unsubstantiated hearsay and should be nothiung to worry about. I don't care what Cecil had to say about Tennessee because he has no credibility (or at least shouldn't have any).

Now, if they have tapes of Kiffin or somebody else at Tennessee offering the money, then we have a real problem.
 
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