ESPN/Chris Mortensen report

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#77
volmanbill said:
IMO, As quickly as Mort flew over Kiffin's name we may be all making too much of him anyway. It was almost an aside to the Gruden and Smith details. I really don't think Mort knows any more than we do regarding this.
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Vintage Mort. When you have nothing to report create a out there spin on it and sell it as news.
 
#78
#78
TennTradition said:
I can't believe we're doing this...but I still think that the words "the prime" candidate mean the same as "the leading." Instead, he said "a prime," which means "a leading" candidate. It seems to me that the key difference is the use of the word "a" over the word "the."
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Exactly...
 
#79
#79
Evidently Mort hasn't pieced the clues together. I thought he could do it. I bet John Clayton has.

Tennessee does have a coach ready to take the reigns.
 
#80
#80
Man, Ole' Mortensen that ole' dog.

The tease peice for ESPN on Sports Animal knowing everyone listening would watch ESPN or at least log onto ESPN.com. Smooth Criminal, Smooth Smooth Criminal.
 
#81
#81
Rasputin_Vol said:
Al Groh is doing a great job? :unsure:

Your agument was based on big names coaches haing two advantages... being able to recruit and being better at X's and O's.

Even though some of these guys are able to step into more living rooms because of NFL experience, that doesn't make them better coaches on game day...

We've already gone though 17 years of having a great recruiter and poor gameday coaching. How about we actually go out and get a good coach that can develope the talent we have.
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Do you know what a conditional statement is? IF then form. Well, in the SEC this is how is works period. IF you have the horses, then you can win. Also, If you have a coach that properly prepares players for games, then you can win. Now, If I do not have the horses but have a good coach, then I will most certainly lose in the SEC. If I have the horses and a bad coach, then I will lose some games but win many. Kelly will equal no horses you just watch if he is hired. We have to try to satisfy both conditions.

Groh as you mentioned is a good execution coach. He is the least successful at recruiting of the ones mentioned but had the toughest job in that area going head to head with Tech. His team is overachieving on the field every year and he is just hanging on in the recruiting arena but not flat out failing.

I agree with you. I do not want just a recruiter. But an NFL guy is not likely to be some kind of dunce with the clipboard. Dave Wanstedt is an exception but man he can recruit and look Pitt is about to cash it in.
 
#83
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volfanbill said:
Evidently Mort hasn't pieced the clues together. I thought he could do it. I bet John Clayton has.

Tennessee does have a coach ready to take the reigns.
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I agree, and I can't seem to shake the names "Cowher" or "Kiffin".

Heck, maybe both. Add "Steele", and we're already a contender in '09.

Go Vols.
 
#84
#84
Yeah, he broke a story that Kiffen was going to be fired. It ran on ESPN for about an hour and it never happened. Him and Jay Glazer are like hound dogs on news. It's crazy the competiton to break a damn story that will be nationwide in 3 minutes.
 
#85
#85
Jewbaccah said:
Generally Big Names are good coaches. You do not become an NFL HC or OC/DC by being bad at what you do. They are better at Xs and Os then Kelly I guarantee you that and Kelly is a joke at recruiting. Kelly equals disaster. Historically, NFL guys can recruit when they come down to College based on the NFL name they bring with them. And Xs and Os wise again if they survived in the NFL they are better at Xs and Os and making guys better than 90 percent of the guys in college.
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LOL. Callahan, Weis, Groh and Wannstetdt are AWESOME! They dominate all these stupid college coaches! How can you GUARANTEE anything about anyone? You probably don't know a darn think about Kelly.
 
#86
#86
GreyWolf1129 said:
I agree, and I can't seem to shake the names "Cowher" or "Kiffin".

Heck, maybe both. Add "Steele", and we're already a contender in '09.

Go Vols.
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you are actually a lot closer than most people would believe.

Edit: Don't forget the Tremors clue. It actually ties into the Yancey Thigpen clue as well.
 
#87
#87
volfanbill said:
you are actually a lot closer than most people would believe.

Edit: Don't forget the Tremors clue. It actually ties into the Yancey Thigpen clue as well.
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Thinking back, I might have given up the ghost with the Yancey Thigpen. It's not obvious, but I mean if you think about it and the other clues it's pretty obvious.
 
#88
#88
volfanbill said:
Evidently Mort hasn't pieced the clues together. I thought he could do it. I bet John Clayton has.

Tennessee does have a coach ready to take the reigns.
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i hope you are not gathering that from that idiotic "i am in the know, because i know what oak trees mean," thread in the ut plane thread.
 
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MarylandVolunteer said:
LOL. Callahan, Weis, Groh and Wannstetdt are AWESOME! They dominate all these stupid college coaches! How can you GUARANTEE anything about anyone? You probably don't know a darn think about Kelly.
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I have reviewed his recruiting at Cincy compared to what it was before and already know he is a disaster nothing else is necessary but that fact he is a prick certifies it.
 
#91
#91
Jewbaccah said:
I have reviewed his recruiting at Cincy compared to what it was before and already know he is a disaster nothing else is necessary but that fact he is a prick certifies it.
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A lot easier to look like a great recruiter in Southern California (Kiffin) than in a Rust Belt armpit like Cincy, where you are competing for scraps leftover by tOSU and Michigan.
 
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#92
#92
Its obvious that Mort has'nt seen this thread. He would have broken the news already. :D
 
#93
#93
Jewbaccah said:
I have reviewed his recruiting at Cincy compared to what it was before and already know he is a disaster nothing else is necessary but that fact he is a prick certifies it.
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Yeah his turning around of CMU a historically awful football team was the nail in the coffin for me of his "prickness".

Winners are pricks.
 
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#94
TennTradition said:
I can't believe we're doing this...but I still think that the words "the prime" candidate mean the same as "the leading." Instead, he said "a prime," which means "a leading" candidate. It seems to me that the key difference is the use of the word "a" over the word "the."
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For what it's worth, I heard 'the.'

He does say that rather quickly, so whether Mort parsed his words as carefully as you have (and I agree with your parsing), I don't know.

Mort was discouraging UT from pursuing Gruden saying he 'had a little flirt in him,' in comparison to Lovie in which that simply wasn't going to happen... and then went to his statement about Kiffin.

Also...Mort noted that Tennessee was engaged in a broad search contacting NFL coaches and these three were 'included' in those contacts.
 
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Business said:
Yeah his turning around of CMU a historically awful football team was the nail in the coffin for me of his "prickness".

Winners are pricks.
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I am not saying he cannot coach. Clearly in an even playing field he is winner. In Big Time college coaching to win you need to be able to get the athletes his biggest fault is recruiting. So when you look at our situation a team that does not have in state talent to keep it going our guy has to get recruits well it has to be a strength. If he does not immediately come in and win we are dead in the water.
 
#99
#99
I'd like to see Jaws and Mortensen in a cage match.

Jaws would watch 5 years of old Mortensen film and have him down within 40 seconds.
 
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