Dooley and Bray

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I heard from a pretty goo source Dooley and hart are talking extension ,

Hart is a complete dumba** if he even THINKS about giving that a$$hole of a coach an extension!!! We REALLY will be in the dumps next season for sure unless we get some decent recruiting..but the guy cant coach worth a s---! if DD gets an extension we as fans ought to not show up for any home games next season...
 
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Relax, this was a response to Bray being classified as a "California Boy." All I was saying was my opinion has nothing to do with him being from California, tha'ts what I meant by " I don't care if he was from Vonroe." I wasn't putting Vonore down. Hell I like Vonore. Me calling him a "stoner" has nothing to do with how he's acted on gameday or with the media. It's based soley on something else. I know we have had players suspended for drug tests and Bray hasn't failed any... I realize that.
 
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Kiffin would have had Bray in the top 3 for the Heisman.

Dooley is too busy stripping the gears on the bus to run over him though.
 
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Good coaches break that personality and turn him into a champion. There is a reason he didn't improve and it's not all on him.
 
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This...I guess it's not all his fault though with Wilcox leaving at all. But still, shouldn't have gone to 3-4 in his biggest year.
The fact that Wilcox left (along with 6 other assistants) just shows that his Dooley's departure began with the loss to Kentucky. We've just allowed it to drag out over the course of another year.

If Wilcox had stayed, I'm pretty confident this defense would be much better than what we have now. So, all the people who don't believe a decision has already been made on Dooley...he already had one foot out the door after the KY game debacle.

I honestly was hoping Dooley could get it turned around, but his own decisions have torpedoed that prospect.
 
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It's has nothing to do with Dooley's coaching or coaches he has hired (see Sunseri), it's all about Bray? Really? And Dooley coddling that punk also had nothing to do with it?
 
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Man I love the almost complete 180 vibe on this board.

Before this season started, Bray was a Heisman candidate and everyone was dogging Wilcox and how we just got a major upgrade in DC in Sunseri. Now people are saying Bray should be benched, shouldn't have come to UT, and our D would be much better with Wilcox. And many doing these things still won't call for Dooley's head.

Now I'm not saying some saying these things in this thread have flip-flopped specifically, just the vibe of the board.
 
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Maybe Bray should have been coached a little better?




No coach coaches over throws and dropped passes on 3rd down. I agree there is a better staff of coaches out there to be had but the players need to grow up and execute. The offensive plays have been there with open receivers but TB has either over thrown them or we've dropped them. The wins, even as bad as the defense has played, have been there for the taking.
 
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Close the deal? What games are you watching? Bray has made his share of mistakes but none have been on defense. He's had to battle this team back just to make the game look competitive on a few occasions.
Bray has contributed to some of those deficits you say he has had to come back and make look competitive. some of those heroic comebacks where when the game was decided and the other team is playing prevent.
 
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I don't care if he is from Vonore. That mf is a stoner and will never have a job that requires much mental capacity or preparation. Should have never played in the sec. He would have been mediocre at sdsu. Imo

what did Vonore ever do to you? Hell bash Tellico plains, or further south into north Ga.
 
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No hart just sees all the things Dooley has made right while in his tenure,so now it's time to let him focus on just coaching and letting his process work,he has a very high grad rate which means experience,which leads to championships,and that folks is why he is going to get a new 10 yr deal worth 72 mill.
 
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How sad for Dooley???? It should say how sad for BRAY!!!! Hes a kid with all the physical skills to be one of, if not, the best QBs in the country. He commited to Tennessee under Kiffin who turn Crompton from bad to managable and was probably expecting that he could help turn him into a #1 draft pick. Instead Kiffin bolts and he's stuck with a coach that can't coach, just hopes his players natural ability will be enough to win in the SEC.
Worse for Bray is he only gets 4 years to play college ball. Dooley can get fired from here and can continue to coach in college for the rest of his life. Dooleys inability to coach UP players may end up costing Bray his future as an NFL qb while Dooley may just have to to drop down to being an assistant for awhile before eventually landing another HCing job. That is if some smaller school doesn't hire Dooley to be a HC immediately after being ousted from here. Finally Dooley as the HC could have changed QBs at anytime. Bray on the other hand is stuck with Dooley since he only has 1 year of eligibility left so he can't even transfer to a school with a coach that could actually teach him how to read defenses, call audibles, and play smarter.
Theres NO reason to feel bad for Dooley, its the players we need to feel bad for. they are the ones that have wasted their college playing days and tossed their dreams of being high drfat picks in the trash by being stuck with a coach that has no idea how to COACH and instead was hoping those same players would simply out talent their competition and hide the fact that Dooley cant coach or scheme.

This. Everyone should go back and listen to Eric Ainge's show from Monday when breaks down the QB play during the Bama game. At this point the mistakes indicate a coaching problem.
 
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I don't care if he is from Vonore. That mf is a stoner and will never have a job that requires much mental capacity or preparation. Should have never played in the sec. He would have been mediocre at sdsu. Imo

This statement seems more like a personal attack than the analysis of a football player dontcha think? Also if you wan't to parallel this scenario with that of a job then we can do so.

In a job you have a specific period of time in which before you are actually out there in the workforce you are trained. With Bray, Dooley skipped this training process all together and sent him to work the register because he was good with computers.

This is showing that Bray has an exceptional amount of talent at QB he just doesn't know the finer parts of the QB position. Not everyone is Peyton Manning, so that being said coaches need to make sure they are coaching a kid up and that he needs to be spending time in the film room which is just as important as the practice field to a QB.

So if anyone here has a "California Boy" attitude it's Dooley. He's the one that's been laid back about disciplining Bray and staying on top of him about getting what needs to be done before gameday done. College kids will not have the maturity of a 40 year old man, and it's unfair to expect that of them. What is fair is for the coaches to be in their faces about missing a practice or a film room session.

Also the assumption that Bray is as much of a "stoner" as you believe cannot be anything more than just that, an assumption. We've had two very talented players get kicked off the team for weed related issues and if Bray is as bad as some of you would like to believe then why would Dooley have a problem cutting him as well.
 
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Can we put the "California Boy" image to rest already? I know ESPN and every other sports network/radio announcer etc. has hyped it but California is about as diverse as it gets. Bray is from what many would consider a 'hick town' in the middle of nowhere. This notion that Southerners are this, Northerners are that, Californians are this, Midwesterners are that, is and always has been total nonsense.

Dooley has a southern accent and grew up privileged and is highly educated. He's not a hayseed and I doubt he'd claim to be.

I like that.
 
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The O has been together for 3 years they all started as true freshmen. How do they go down hill this year? Did Da'rick save us on 3rd down that much? The D was supposed to be 3-4 & 4-3. Some hybrid "Tennessee" defense. So why couldn't Sal go back to the 4-3 the kids knew?

if you have been watching the games you should have noticed that they have been useing the 4-3 a lot. I believe they should pick one defense to run and stick with it.this swapping back and forth may be the reason the players are haveing a hard time with being out of position.JMO GBO :rock:
 
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Hart is a complete dumba** if he even THINKS about giving that a$$hole of a coach an extension!!! We REALLY will be in the dumps next season for sure unless we get some decent recruiting..but the guy cant coach worth a s---! if DD gets an extension we as fans ought to not show up for any home games next season...

you do not sound like a <diehardvolsfan> to me.might need to change your screen name.just saying.:cray:
 
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No hart just sees all the things Dooley has made right while in his tenure,so now it's time to let him focus on just coaching and letting his process work,he has a very high grad rate which means experience,which leads to championships,and that folks is why he is going to get a new 10 yr deal worth 72 mill.

:lolabove: Will you please give me some of what you're smoking?
 
#45
#45
year 1....bray didn't start until november

year 2.....bray got hurt.

year 3.....tennessee's defense is a paved road to the endzone.

bray certainly deserves some blame. but, it's not all his fault. here's a stat for you. tennessee is 11-2 when bray starts and tennessee does not give up 30 points or more.
let me add as well.

it's not cool to be singled out by your head coach, when you've got the worst defense in the conference and you have wr's who seem to drop 1 touchdown per game. if i was bray, i'd be pissed. not that he hasn't had errors and mistakes, but you are going to single me out when damn near the entire team is making as many, if not more, glaring errors and mistakes. oh, hell no

nice
 
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No hart just sees all the things Dooley has made right while in his tenure,so now it's time to let him focus on just coaching and letting his process work,he has a very high grad rate which means experience,which leads to championships,and that folks is why he is going to get a new 10 yr deal worth 72 mill.

Can't tell if serious
 
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I don't care if he is from Vonore. That mf is a stoner and will never have a job that requires much mental capacity or preparation. Should have never played in the sec. He would have been mediocre at sdsu. Imo

This is an idiotic post. Calm and in control of his emotions during press interviews does not equal laid back, stoner or uncaring.

Here are the things that Bray does that shows me how much heart he has:

1. He's thrown some pretty tough blocks on sweeps and wildcat packages (team player, other QBs would wimp out)

2. He's been in on tackles after getting picked off, we've all seen other QBs who wouldn't do that.

3. He continues to fight all the way to the end of games.

In my view, his mistakes are coming from a sense of frustration which leads to impatience. The frustration is due to being put in plays that aren't working with the techniques he's been taught, combined with the receivers being off route. In other words, some plays call for no drop, 3 step drop, 5 step etc. The number of steps should coincide with the receiver's routes so the QB can make his reads and hit the WR at a time and spot where it can't be picked. However, I think many of the late throws are due to Bray taking too many steps which is throwing off the timing. Plus the receivers are either getting knocked off their routes, or running the wrong route, which leads to more frustration. Finally, for the first time in a few years, it seems our receivers have forgotten how to go up and meet the ball at the high point. They are waiting for it to come to them and are giving DBs the chance to make a play.

It is possible that Bray doesn't take the right number of steps because he doesn't know the plays or forgets them in the middle of the game. If so, I would ask what is going on in practice that is allowing this? Is he not getting enough reps? Are the coaches not paying attention?

More likely, the plays themselves are putting him out of position and messing up the timing.

If receivers are off route, again, what is going on in practice? Either the DBs aren't pressing them hard enough so they learn to fight through, or the coaches aren't holding them accountable to practicing right.

As for the drops, are we practicing actively catching the ball vice waiting for it to hit our hands? Has anyone seen our receivers working with tennis balls during practice? Just how are we teaching them and making them practice techniques? In my view, our receivers are looking pretty flawed technically, which gets back to practice.

Certainly players make stupid mistakes during games. They miss reads, panic, get impatient etc. And they need to be held accountable for their mistakes. But, coaches get paid to look at why they make these mistakes and work to help them fix it.

Think back to when Kiffin had Crompton start rolling out instead of dropping back. Suddenly, he could see the field, make his reads and started being pretty effective passing.

For some reason, it doesn't look like our coaches are trying to solve these problems. I'm sure they think they are, but I don't hear it in their interviews, nor do I see it in the snippets we get of practices. Check that, I see a lot of technique work with the running backs and with the offensive line and they are the most improved on the team. I see a lot of pitch and catch with the QBs and WRs, but very little technique work.
 
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No hart just sees all the things Dooley has made right while in his tenure,so now it's time to let him focus on just coaching and letting his process work,he has a very high grad rate which means experience,which leads to championships,and that folks is why he is going to get a new 10 yr deal worth 72 mill.

Derek's friends really need to stop posting.
 
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