Don't defend the indefensible

#76
#76
The players are atrocious thats why we got blown out. Hard to blame the coaches when the players are just that bad.
 
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#77
SaintLouisVol said:
I played football from the time I was six years old through high school. That’s 12-13 seasons. I’m not sure, it’s been 30 years. It’s probably about 100 games or so. Not once ever do I recall a coach “getting me ready to play.” Yes, they coach. They make every effort to prepare you for anything and everything that the other team may attempt against you. Yes, they try to motivate. But, each player on the team is responsible for their individual effort.

These guys are just getting beat, period. They’re not winning blocks, winning coverage, making plays as receivers, etc.

I suppose it has to be on the coaches, to some degree. Maybe there’s more in these player’s than they got out of them. But, you just can not deny that they get beat to the man for the most part.
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Pat Summitt said it best.."You can't coach effort."
 
#78
#78
As the seniors go, so goes the team. You can’t win in this league without senior leadership. There just weren’t enough of them, and the ones we had weren’t all invested. I am sure some where, but some weren’t. I think the freshmen class was vested. I saw our freshmen and sophmores playing harder than the upperclassmen. The future effort is one signing class closer to being brighter.
 
#79
#79
Pruitt has a lot of nerve to get short and/or cocky with reporters as if he's above anything. He's been given the keys to an SEC program who still plays prominently on the national stage...with major network coverage, a strong national fanbase and rich history. I don't know who the hell he thinks he is...especially after this dismal performance. Also...in these pressers we don't need a recitation of what happened. We KNOW you didn't tackle...we KNOW they outplayed us. Tell us how you as a coach allowed a team that beat 2 top 25 teams to come out and get absolutely humiliated in a game that was vitally important for the pride of the school, boosters and fan base and had bowl game riding on the result. It was a shameful showing by this team....which is a direct reflection of this coaches ability and efforts.
 
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"They tackled in space..we didn't tackle in space. They caught contested balls..we didn't". Geez. We KNOW THIS. We watched this game. He talks down to the fans and media like we're fools. We may be fools....for believing in you as a coach. And we are smart enough to know what a gawd awful coaching effort looks like. Make no mistake. Don't condescend like this after getting vaporized by friggin Vanderbilt. This fanbase (most) don't give two sh!ts you came from big bad Bama. If I were him i'd be remorseful not cocky and arrogant after the horrendous way he closed the season.
 
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#82
Gator speaks truth. I think there's a lot of transfers coming and maybe those guys quit already on this staff. I know if I was Pruitt I would be looking for a dual threat QB ASAP (Does Mauer qualify?) Pruitt has said this will be the worst year. So let's just see. He'd better beat a down Vandy and Mizzou next year, along with make a bowl (i.e. Show progress) or his seat will be on fire going into 2020.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Sadly, we as UT fans have had this same end result too much for the past decade. The excuses may be different, but it’s always the same. I’m not sure really what to say anymore. This truly saddens me. Other teams get better while we continue to flounder in a dark abyss. Not sure when this nightmare will ever end but I’m truly jealous of other schools and their success
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I not sure it will ever end, at least not in the next decade
 
#84
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SaintLouisVol said:
I played football from the time I was six years old through high school. That’s 12-13 seasons. I’m not sure, it’s been 30 years. It’s probably about 100 games or so. Not once ever do I recall a coach “getting me ready to play.” Yes, they coach. They make every effort to prepare you for anything and everything that the other team may attempt against you. Yes, they try to motivate. But, each player on the team is responsible for their individual effort.

These guys are just getting beat, period. They’re not winning blocks, winning coverage, making plays as receivers, etc.

I suppose it has to be on the coaches, to some degree. Maybe there’s more in these player’s than they got out of them. But, you just can not deny that they get beat to the man for the most part.
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Coaches never hyped me up for any game. If you have to rely on the coach to hype you up to play a sport then maybe you should find something else to do...like field hockey.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Gator speaks truth. I think there's a lot of transfers coming and maybe those guys quit already on this staff. I know if I was Pruitt I would be looking for a dual threat QB ASAP (Does Mauer qualify?) Pruitt has said this will be the worst year. So let's just see. He'd better beat a down Vandy and Mizzou next year, along with make a bowl (i.e. Show progress) or his seat will be on fire going into 2020.
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You need a guy who can scramble for his life until this o-line situation can be fixed. That is an absolute must. JG will never be that guy and keep getting killed and UT will keep losing until its done.
 
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#86
Keep seeing this 0-3 against Vandy thing. Yes they whopped our tails for 3 straight years and I know and you know the reason for this...Continuity and lack of Continuity in the programs. Mason has been at Vandy for 5 years. That means the program has been under his leadership for enough time to see a freshman class make it through graduation. How many freshmen classes have made it through Tennessee with the same coach...Yeah, not many.
 
#87
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99gator said:
I’m seeing a lot of stuff being written and I’m shaking my head.

Anyone who thought before the season that Tennessee did not have the personnel on campus to avoid getting hammered by Vanderbilt is not being truthful. I know those are fighting words, but it is what it is.

There is NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, who thought before the year, Vandy is just too good. Tennessee’s going to lose, that’s a given. Tennessee has absolutely no chance. I just hope we don’t get killed.

No one came close to having that thought.

The team I saw today did not bother to play with any effort. Period. Point blank. End of story. Next case.

And you’re darn right, that’s on the coaches. You’ve lost two in a row to Vandy. You’re trying to get to a bowl. You’re trying to end on a good note, so that the season has a positive vibe about it. And you go out and do that.

Don’t give me the talent rationale. One of the reasons Pruitt got emotional after the Georgia game is because the team went out and laid it on the line and played hard for 4 quarters. The end result wasn’t what anyone wanted, but they busted their tails.

They were completely uninterested in this one and that’s a reflection on everybody, including the coaches. Players who care about their coaches don't do that.
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You’re right
We need to flush out the pussies who don’t have heart and pout when a coach calls them out for lack of effort.
 
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#89
I have to disagree. Ive never played a down of football so tell me I dont have a voice, but if Im tired of losing and after a big win have a chance to go back to a bowl game and stop the embarrassing losing streak to Vanderbilt... if I come out flat and uninterested and get blown you can put 100% of the blame on me.
 
#90
#90
Some of you pathetic, lame-brained, loser-mentalitied, fake Vol fans should find your "REAL" favorite school and begin to root for them vigorously. You have been exposed. You are a disgrace. Please remove yourselves forthwith. Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Clemson & Ohio State's bandwagon fanbases are currently hiring. No experience required.
 
#93
#93
wmcovol said:
they didn’t play for Butch and they don’t play for Pruitt. Anyone think they just got a lot of the wrong type guys?
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Exactly.....
What happened to playing for your school, teammates, and for god's sake....pride?
 
#94
#94
revjayp said:
I’m not a coach worshipper by any means. But I have a deeper question: WHY’D they quit? You cant put in people things God left out. Heart, determination, fight, passion, pride, work ethic. You either have them or you don’t.
Some who were at the game tonight said the players on the sideline looked disinterested and uninvolved. Where does that come from? I get it if it’s happening to a lame duck coach (ala BJ last year) but this is a new coach with new energy, new vision and new passion. We know the Freshmen aren’t quitting because he brought them in. They’re his guys! We know it wasn’t really the seniors because we didn’t have a whole lot as the ones we did have, played pretty hard all year. So who quit? I’m guessing it was the sophomores and juniors. Those who haven’t bought in to the new way of doing things. They’d rather roll over and get som free gear simply by wearing the T rather than work hard like those who’ve gone before them wearing the T. Their BJs’ boys. Butch ran a lax, come and go as you please, surface level program. Those who had the above mentioned traits, improved and those who didn’t, stayed the same or even regressed. It’s playjng out in front of us.

I think the blame lies somewhere in the middle. Pruitt has said all year tbey need to coach better. That’s actually been refreshing. But it’s hard to coach people who just don’t want to be coached. That’s what it looks like to me. It’s just sad to see guys not give a crap represent the team I love. Here’s to better seasons ahead.
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Not saying this is totally it but how would you and your co workers feel if the one running your show says the place I was at would not have wanted any of you except maybe looked at a couple. That should have been a no quote or at least off season. You are in a situation you need as coach/leader do ever thing to make it better in the transition to your players. He just dissed sophomore through Senior classes except 2 players. Think about where you work if someone said I would have never wanted you, is that a team building tactic or an excuse for failure.
What happened to the old coaches saying, Bum Phillips he can take his'n and beat your'n or take your'n and beat his'n.
 
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#95
#95
volbeast33 said:
This game sucked no doubt..... still doesn’t change anything..... have to flip the roster and build depth
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I think you’re right. There is a segment of the roster that just doesn’t have it in them to make the mental transition and the increased effort needed to contribute enough to make us a better team. I think they didn’t leave because it is too easy to stay where you are and ride it out with your friends you already know.
I think Pruitt should consider not renewing the scholarship of about 25 players and invite players for an open tryout and bring on players as preferred walk ons with the possibility of earning a scholarship later if they excel. That way you would at least have players who are motivated and want to be there. Maybe you could pull a few Paul Bain’s or Colton Jumpers from the group. I don’t see us getting much from the ones that are there now and as long as they are involved their negative attitude will act like an anchor for the team. It might speed the rebuild. Just a thought after yet another miserable season.
 
#96
#96
sechamp2012 said:
Not saying this is totally it but how would you and your co workers feel if the one running your show says the place I was at would not have wanted any of you except maybe looked at a couple. That should have been a no quote or at least off season. You are in a situation you need as coach/leader do ever thing to make it better in the transition to your players. He just dissed sophomore through Senior classes except 2 players. Think about where you work if someone said I would have never wanted you, is that a team building tactic or an excuse for failure.
What happened to the old coaches saying, Bum Phillips he can take his'n and beat your'n or take your'n and beat his'n.
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While I see your point and agree that that shouldn’t have been said, (I don’t remember where he said it or in what context or if Pruitt actually said it. I’ve just heard that was the case) they didn’t just all of a sudden quit this year. We began to see this happen 2 years ago in the SC game. All we had to do was beat either SC or Vandy to go to the Sugar Bowl and this team laid down. There is a culture of quitting on the hill and it has to be weeded out. And sometimes that process isn’t pretty.
 
#97
#97
sechamp2012 said:
Not saying this is totally it but how would you and your co workers feel if the one running your show says the place I was at would not have wanted any of you except maybe looked at a couple. That should have been a no quote or at least off season. You are in a situation you need as coach/leader do ever thing to make it better in the transition to your players. He just dissed sophomore through Senior classes except 2 players. Think about where you work if someone said I would have never wanted you, is that a team building tactic or an excuse for failure.
What happened to the old coaches saying, Bum Phillips he can take his'n and beat your'n or take your'n and beat his'n.
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I’ll also say this. Who cares if someone said they didn’t want me at my job?? If I still have my job, then it’s up to me to prove that the person who DID hire me didn’t make a mistake. Why would I roll over, pout and get offended by that? I don’t know you champ, but I’d hope you’d do the same thing. Again, the best motivation for me personally is for someone to tell me I can’t do something. I’ll stop at nothing to prove them wrong. Unfortunately, our society of snowflakes is slowly emasculating the male species and removing all resemblance of manhood. Just my opinion.
 
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#98
#98
revjayp said:
I’ll also say this. Who cares if someone said they didn’t want me at my job?? If I still have my job, then it’s up to me to prove that the person who DID hire me didn’t make a mistake. Why would I roll over, pout and get offended by that? I don’t know you champ, but I’d hope you’d do the same thing. Again, the best motivation for me personally is for someone to tell me I can’t do something. I’ll stop at nothing to prove them wrong. Unfortunately, our society of snowflakes is slowly emasculating the male species and removing all resemblance of manhood. Just my opinion.
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I agree with what you said but the organization I work in and its proven in most organizations there is a 20/80. 20% of the people are self motivated and are not of the snowflake culture but 80% are followers and ready to give up at the drop of a hat. You need the 20% to buy in and lead the rest not alienate them.
 
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