Dobbs is not the answer

#352
#352
P.O.T.S. VOL said:
Yes he did! And before and after that he was inconsistent at times!

As in not being on target!
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You said early in his career, he was inaccurate. His first year is early in his career.

Hell, it was the 7th game against SC.

I just blasted your argument which has ZERO to do with Dobbs and his inability to hit a receiver.
 
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#354
He makes some throws, he misses some. There are even drops by the wideouts. To say though that he is at his ceiling is goofy. Plus you fail to mention the add spark his running ability gives the team. We don't finish the year at 6-6 without dips in the qb spot. Are you guys advocating for Peterman?
 
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LittleDTO said:
What are you talking about? Tee broke the completion record against South Carolina in 98. His first year.
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And with that one outlier game completed a whopping 57% of his passes that year....a full 4.5% less than Dobbs' completion percentage.....with a much better OL and offensive players around him.
 
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Wow, I thought this thread was old. Wow is all I can say.
 
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AllVolinGA said:
He makes some throws, he misses some. There are even drops by the wideouts. To say though that he is at his ceiling is goofy. Plus you fail to mention the add spark his running ability gives the team. We don't finish the year at 6-6 without dips in the qb spot. Are you guys advocating for Peterman?
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First just know that I am a Dobbs fan. With that being said, if he were a true freshman and having these accuracy issues I would agree with you. But he's not. This will be his second full year competing at this level. CBJ has stated many times that one of his biggest problems is his accuracy in the passing game. He suffered with it last year, all throughout the spring and the preseason. One of the biggest reasons that he was going to be redshirted. It wasn't just the Vandy game, he has had the same problem in all of them.
 
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KBVol said:
And with that one outlier game completed a whopping 57% of his passes that year....a full 4.5% less than Dobbs' completion percentage.....with a much better OL and offensive players around him.
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Tee threw down field. Dobbs throws screen passes. See what his percentage rate is beyond 5 yards.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I'm talking about the first of the season chief .... Go back and look at the numbers smart guy
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Ok Chief. I'm just using the same words you used. Early in his career. Now you changed it to the first 6 games.

Secondly, Tee threw down field. Thanks for recognizing I am smart BTW. It's always nice to be complimented.
 
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LittleDTO said:
Tee threw down field. Dobbs throws screen passes. See what his percentage rate is beyond 5 yards.
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I agree with you and Pickens on this. Tee was not very accurate but he had arm strength and could stretch the field.
 
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American Pig said:
You are correct. However, Dobbs has largely been given mostly easy passes that amount to little more than a handoff. That's why he maintains decent 'completion percentage' stats while going backwards or nowhere.

Clearly, Dobbs strength is his mobility. He can escape pressure, so the rollouts helped immensely to offset the lack of protection. It does seem that we've seen less of these lately. As you say imply, Dobbs needs to stay mobile. I'm just getting more concerned about the passing. He seems to be regressing towards his historical norm of inaccuracy and inexplicable throws. He has great arm strength, but no touch. He passes well on a rope.
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Dobbs
61.5%, 11.2 per completion, 3.2% interceptions, 32.7% of throws get first downs, 26.0% (25) of completions gain 15+, 11.5% (11) of completions gain 25+

Worley
62.3%, 10.0 per completion, 3.2% interceptions, 29.8% of throws get first downs, 26.1% (41) of completions 15+, 6.4% (10) of completions gain 25+

The "inaccurate" Dobbs has been more effective than Worley throwing the ball. Then there's the running...
 
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LittleDTO said:
Tee threw down field. Dobbs throws screen passes. See what his percentage rate is beyond 5 yards.
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You mean like when Tee threw downfield vs Arkansas....and was 10 of 27? Get back back with me when Dobbs has a game throwing 10 for 27, downfield or otherwise. Stats "are pesky things".
 
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LittleDTO said:
Ok Chief. I'm just using the same words you used. Early in his career. Now you changed it to the first 6 games.

Secondly, Tee threw down field. Thanks for recognizing I am smart BTW. It's always nice to be complimented.
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Well how many games has Dobbs played this far? .......and Martin only started 25 games......early means early
 
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papatomany said:
Dobbs
61.5%, 11.2 per completion, 3.2% interceptions, 32.7% of throws get first downs, 26.0% (25) of completions gain 15+, 11.5% (11) of completions gain 25+

Worley
62.3%, 10.0 per completion, 3.2% interceptions, 29.8% of throws get first downs, 26.1% (41) of completions 15+, 6.4% (10) of completions gain 25+

The "inaccurate" Dobbs has been more effective than Worley throwing the ball. Then there's the running...
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He can't throw accurate balls down field. Not sure what is hard to understand. The first 2 games, he got a lot of yards from the run after the catch on bubble screens.

There is a reason that the corners are in press coverage with the safeties in the box. The opposing team doesn't respect Dobbs throwing down field.
 
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LittleDTO said:
Right, so I contend that the 7th game of his career is early and he broke a completion record then.
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I was there in columbia. Anyone remember tee hitting peerless in stride to break the game open and win it all? I am prkud of dobbs but he hasnt hit a deep post in stride this season. Ever. Yes the line sucks but he threw the post 4 times against SC alone and was lucky to not be picked each time. When and if dobbs gets the ability to throw the deep ball accurately he will be a good qb...maybe even great.
 
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LittleDTO said:
Right, so I contend that the 7th game of his career is early and he broke a completion record then.
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Right, and 2 games later he missed 17 of 27 passes vs Arkansas, throwing to Peerless Price and Cedrick Wilson among others. See how this works? Tee was an excellent qb in 1998 who did whatever it took to win....kinda like Dobbs is doing right now. Only thing is, no matter how you slice it, Dobbs is both a more accurate passer and better runner now than Tee was in 1998, despite the fact that Tee had a ton of playmakers and an outstanding OL all around him.
 
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KBVol said:
Right, and 2 games later he missed 17 of 27 passes vs Arkansas, throwing to Peerless Price and Cedrick Wilson among others. See how this works? Tee was an excellent qb in 1998 who did whatever it took to win....kinda like Dobbs is doing right now. Only thing is, no matter how you slice it, Dobbs is both a more accurate passer and better runner now than Tee was in 1998, despite the fact that Tee had a ton of playmakers and an outstanding OL all around him.
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He is not a more accurate passer than Tee. That is absolutely crazy.
 
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#374
I Look at Blake Sims at Bama and see what Dobbs could be. The difference is Sims is a 5th year Sr at Bama. Nobody thought early in his career that he would ever be the starting QB at Bama, and if he was, Bama was in trouble. Hell, he was a RB in 2011. I think Dobbs could turn into a very good QB for us. Don't give up on him because he had a bad passing game against Vandy.
 
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LittleDTO said:
He is not a more accurate passer than Tee. That is absolutely crazy.
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He actually is but the reason for that is that most of Dobbs passes are within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. We see what happens when he forces throws down field. Interceptions. Tee completed 57% in 98 and 545 in 99 but he stretched the field with the vertical passing game.
 
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