Dobbs Cannot Handle The Blitz

[GVol1966]

The guy is always running for this life. Since the O-Line can't contain the edge, every DC knows to come at him at every play. There is no way this team gets to 8 wins.

Payton manning couldn't of handled Bamas blitz on that last possession, behind our OL.

 

[UTFootballFan]

So which is it? Stays in the pocket to long or panics? You haters can't even get your stories straight.

What do you mean haters? I don't hate Dobbs. I do know he hit four Alabama players in the hands or chest and they dropped the ball. I also think he could could do a better job of reading the defense and finding an open receiver.

As far as the receivers not being wide open, sometimes you have to put the ball in the best spot possible and and let the receiver make a play. The throwing lanes and margins are very slim at this level. You have to take what you get and make a play.

Look at the back shoulder passes that get completed regularly. Those receivers aren't considered side openm. They make a play on a well placed ball.

This calling everyone that critiques someone a hater is childish.

 

[UTFootballFan]

When you see the wide field view where you can see the routes develop, you realize it's not Dobbs having a problem reading a defense. Our receivers aren't very good at getting separation against tight man coverage.

That is true on some plays. It's not on all of them. If you watch closely, you will see what I'm talking about. Other teams seem to make plays when their receivers don't appear open. Why not the Vols?

 

[GVol1966]

That last scoring drive was a thing of beauty. Balls were perfectly placed while under pressure.

It was . Still wondering why we don't see more passes like them unless we are behind and running out of time!
One major component missing in our offense is the back shoulder throw when the d-back is running with the WR

 

[UTFootballFan]

So which is it? Stays in the pocket to long or panics? You haters can't even get your stories straight.

Where did I say he stays in the pocket too long? Dobbs overthinks and doesn't go through his progressions even when he has time. He has a set receiver he plans to throw to. When he isn't side open, he panics and starts scrambling and many times scrambles directly into the pressure.

Just because I think he needs to improve his quarterback skills doesn't mean I hate him.

 

[Gramps]

I have been on Dobbs case several times this season. I think he played a very good game today. I am proud of his play.


The end of the game, we were in a pass only situation and Bama sent the house. When Bama unleashes that Defense on the QB, very few if any would be successful against it.

Go Vols

 

[GVol1966]

That is true on some plays. It's not on all of them. If you watch closely, you will see what I'm talking about. Other teams seem to make plays when their receivers don't appear open. Why not the Vols?

Because the ball has to be delivered on target with precise placement like on the back shoulder throws with the d-back running stride for stride with the reciever!

 

[perico]

That is true on some plays. It's not on all of them. If you watch closely, you will see what I'm talking about. Other teams seem to make plays when their receivers don't appear open. Why not the Vols?

Because they don't get open long enough and it's rare this year they've made plays on the ball. Josh smith has, but the receiver rotation makes no sense either. Von Pearson got his first start tonight. Dude is our most dangerous weapon and has the hands to make plays!. Last year was a stud. I know he missed some camp, but that's not an excuse for his not being on the field as Dobbs obviously trusts him.

 

[k-town_king]

Where did I say he stays in the pocket too long? Dobbs overthinks and doesn't go through his progressions even when he has time. He has a set receiver he plans to throw to. When he isn't side open, he panics and starts scrambling and many times scrambles directly into the pressure.

Just because I think he needs to improve his quarterback skills doesn't mean I hate him.

Several times he went through the progressions but no one was open. Dobbs played as well as any qb we have had against Bama in years.

 

[jimallvol]

Yes it was. But, he also threw at least 3 passes that should've been picked off. Things look a lot different if the receiver doesn't break up one of those, and the DBs catch the ball like they did last week. They had stone hands today. He was very fortunate. The big one that sticks out was his overthrow of an open receiver (again) that was dropped by the safety.

I agree. Dobbs definitely dodged some bullets with them dropped picks by the Bama secondary! I'll admit that Dobbs made some good plays tonight, but he made some that left me scratching my head. Some of the sacks on him tonight was unavoidable, but a few of them late in the game was all on Dobbs. He's got to learn to have a clock in his head, and not sit in the pocket so long, especially against a D like Bama's. He's a junior QB that shouldn't be making some of the mistakes he's making. It's weird how this team plays late in a game compared to the way they play early on. I really like Dobbs, but he's not a SEC caliber QB. We really need for one of these young guns to step up this spring and challenge Dobbs for the job.

 

[chargervol]

Dobbs made a couple of head scratchers that didn't help us win but he is also one of the main reasons why we ever entertained winning.
Can't really be overly critical of that.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

The WR's have to get open

Dobbs still has problems finding an open receiver when his first option is covered. We had open guys on most of the plays.

 

[Underachievers]

Our oline isn't great but they're getting better. Dobbs refuses to throw the ball away. He holds the ball too long. Our receivers have to be wide open for him to complete the pass. Not bashing Dobbs, he just needs to improve on his passing game

 

[chargervol]

Dobbs still has problems finding an open receiver when his first option is covered. We had open guys on most of the plays.

To be honest though, he never had the time that most college quarterbacks get.
I heard "Coker had all day to throw".
I never once heard that about Dobbs. Sometimes I think that because the OL is better than last year, we forget that they're still not very good.

 

[jimallvol]

What do you mean haters? I don't hate Dobbs. I do know he hit four Alabama players in the hands or chest and they dropped the ball. I also think he could could do a better job of reading the defense and finding an open receiver.

As far as the receivers not being wide open, sometimes you have to put the ball in the best spot possible and and let the receiver make a play. The throwing lanes and margins are very slim at this level. You have to take what you get and make a play.

Look at the back shoulder passes that get completed regularly. Those receivers aren't considered side openm. They make a play on a well placed ball.

This calling everyone that critiques someone a hater is childish.

It's definitely been a underachieving season for some of our WRs. I can't believe that North has fell of the map this year. The plays that he made early in his career had me believing he was going to be the next big time WR at Tennessee. But to do that you have to have a QB that's going to throw your way. As for the ones who get on here and call others nega vols or haters needs to stay off Volnation if they can't handle others opinions.

 

[k-town_king]

I agree. Dobbs definitely dodged some bullets with them dropped picks by the Bama secondary! I'll admit that Dobbs made some good plays tonight, but he made some that left me scratching my head. Some of the sacks on him tonight was unavoidable, but a few of them late in the game was all on Dobbs. He's got to learn to have a clock in his head, and not sit in the pocket so long, especially against a D like Bama's. He's a junior QB that shouldn't be making some of the mistakes he's making. It's weird how this team plays late in a game compared to the way they play early on. I really like Dobbs, but he's not a SEC caliber QB. We really need for one of these young guns to step up this spring and challenge Dobbs for the job.

Who is an SEC caliber qb to you? He has beat SEC teams and performed well. He led a drive in the 4th that could have won the game. Something no UT has done in awhile. He has been better than almost every other SEC qb this year.

 

[perico]

I agree. Dobbs definitely dodged some bullets with them dropped picks by the Bama secondary! I'll admit that Dobbs made some good plays tonight, but he made some that left me scratching my head. Some of the sacks on him tonight was unavoidable, but a few of them late in the game was all on Dobbs. He's got to learn to have a clock in his head, and not sit in the pocket so long, especially against a D like Bama's. He's a junior QB that shouldn't be making some of the mistakes he's making. It's weird how this team plays late in a game compared to the way they play early on. I really like Dobbs, but he's not a SEC caliber QB. We really need for one of these young guns to step up this spring and challenge Dobbs for the job.

15/26 153 yards 0 TD 3 INT
Iceman Clausen against a vastly inferior Bama team his junior year when they blew us out at home.

We've only had two QBs since 1990 that played well enough to win in every game against Bama (Manning not counting his freshman year and Tee), and they had a combined 5-1 record against the Tide. The rest laid some bad eggs in there against teams vastly inferior to the ones we've played in recent years. Dobbs played well enough to win. Was he great? No, but he played a lot better tonight than many of his predecessors did on occasion.

 

[UTFootballFan]

No need to compare Dobbs to past QB's playing past Bama teams. He did very well at times tonight. He also did very poorly at times. He needs much improvement to meet expectations unless of course, you all that love him are happy with the results.

 

[jimallvol]

Who is an SEC caliber qb to you? He has beat SEC teams and performed well. He led a drive in the 4th that could have won the game. Something no UT has done in awhile. He has been better than almost every other SEC qb this year.

That's not saying much, when this is one of the worst seasons for QBs in the SEC in a long time. Take time to go back and watch Dobbs play since he's been here. It's nothing against Dobbs but he's just not a good QB at this level. He's had a few games where he looked good, but as far as having confidence in him to put this team on his back and throwing the ball for a win in a game, I just don't have. He really needs to improve on his accuracy and decisions before I would call him a SEC QB.

 

[k-town_king]

That's not saying much, when this is one of the worst seasons for QBs in the SEC in a long time. Take time to go back and watch Dobbs play since he's been here. It's nothing against Dobbs but he's just not a good QB at this level. He's had a few games where he looked good, but as far as having confidence in him to put this team on his back and throwing the ball for a win in a game, I just don't have. He really needs to improve on his accuracy and decisions before I would call him a SEC QB.

Dobbs is better than many we have had and will finish in the top 5 of passing catergories and number 1 in most rushing stats for qbs at UT. He is better than many past and present SEC qbs. To say he isn't an SEC qb is just dumb. You can say he isn't an All American or top NFL pick. He is definitely an SEC qb.

 

[Nationdom]

Our receivers are flat disappointing. Bama can get freshman to look better than any WR we have. We need to recruit some WRs that actually can play the position like Bama does.

Need to jus fire CZA

 

[nomads-11]

I think, assuming he got great OL play, Dobbs has trouble reading defenses and working through progressions. I say that as there have been wide open options in any number of games. No doubt he makes up for it greatly with running capability. Accuracy is a different story and at this point he has pretty much shown his ability to be on target, and out of the zip code regardless of competition. At the end of the day he may well be the best option. Still sporadic OL play has a huge influence. They did well, and not so well when it mattered. Any QB is going to have an issue under those circumstances.

 

[majic73]

To be honest though, he never had the time that most college quarterbacks get.
I heard "Coker had all day to throw".
I never once heard that about Dobbs. Sometimes I think that because the OL is better than last year, we forget that they're still not very good.

The offensive line has a ways to go , but on most plays , aided by the shotgun , Dobbs has 2.8 seconds to deliver the ball . Most of the time ...he does not . When he does decide and release within 2.8 ...he is at his best . When he is late , he is either running for his life , or the pass is off target .

This delay in delivery makes the offensive line look bad and it makes Dobbs have a harder time . I am not sure what the problem is . I see him looking back and forth between his progressions and getting the happy feet . If I had to guess , he is insecure about the openness of the receiver ...which probably comes back to his pre-snap read and coverage recognition . If you watch the game film ...there is almost always someone open in the pass tree or a hot read set up for blitz situations .

Dobbs is the cog that make the machine run . He seems to be improving every week but to run this offense he has to be better at the passing part

To run this layered west coast passing tree , A QB has to be decisive an accurate and in order to be that he has to understand coverage and know where the match ups are . I think there are some things the coaches could do to help him out a bit more but it ultimately comes back to him . I will like to see things be simplified for him , like a 2 read system with the 3 read being a hot short route . Receivers coming back to the ball better on scramble drills . I think they should base their offense off the zone read and play action off of that . Of all the criticism of Dobbs , he is a brilliant runner and this strength should be a bigger part of the game

 

[volberry]

For better or worse, he doesn't always know when to give up on the play. Sometimes it is just best to throw it away. Of course it's easy for me to see that- from my couch I've got a much better view of the field- but also would've liked to see him throw the ball up more to give the WRs a chance to make a play.

Your 8 win comment though... Um no. We run the table from here on out. We need to be mad and need to take our frustration out on The rest of the SEC-E

I have no doubt we destroy the rest on the schedule. Rhen the bowl team as well. To lose to the good teams we have shows me something. Saban was nervous as heck!!

 

[MOTOVOL]

Have any of you that are saying Dobbs does not go through his progressions good enough actually watched our line block? Coleman Thomas gets pushed back in Dobbs face almost faster than his snaps get back there. Thomas got trucked so much today it was not even funny. Name me a QB that could go through his reads ? Is Dobbs perfect? NO. Is he the reason we lost the games we have this year . NO. O-line and kicker need to be upgraded.