Dobbs Cannot Handle The Blitz

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#102
Our coaching staff needs to help him out a little. Those blitz up the middle seem to get us every time. Why not a quick pop out to a back?
 
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Sandvol said:
Our coaching staff needs to help him out a little. Those blitz up the middle seem to get us every time. Why not a quick pop out to a back?
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I don't know. Seems like either he can't read what's coming or DeBord is as bad as everyone thinks. You change that play to a hot route. We never do and Dobbs ends up on his rear.. That has to change.
 
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GTvols said:
The guy is always running for this life. Since the O-Line can't contain the edge, every DC knows to come at him at every play. There is no way this team gets to 8 wins.
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GTFO. Look at the schedule, chief. No one has the personnel of Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, or Alabama.
 
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Every pass play should have a receiver that is runs a short quick route so the qb can hit him any time the defense blitzes. If he isn't open the ball can be thrown away at his feet or in his vicinity. That's better than scrambling into the rush and taking a loss or throwing the ball into the hands of a defender.
 
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That screen game was pretty strong vs. the blitz in the UGA game. I think we will see improvement in beating the blitz next year and for the remainder of this season as well. Outside of a bowl, we won't face another team this year that has the kind of pass defense talent that we've already faced at least 3 times.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Dobbs got saved by his receivers, and the Bama D on several piss poor decisions, too. Don't act like he didn't make some bad decisions that were lucky to not be detrimental to this game.
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Over 5 times according to the announcers. Alabama dropped 3 or more sure interceptions. They took 2 for TD's the week earlier. Saying Dobb's got lucky is an understatement.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
I wish it would be over in October so the rest of us who watch the season play out don't have to hear or see you mfer's complaining. Great game plan today the better team won on this day. Be proud and let it go. You guys all think it's coach speak to say two or three plays make the difference in most games ! Think it's still coach speak ? A couple plays they made and the chances we had such as kicking made the difference. Ole Piss beating them was a fluke nothing more.
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I'll complain as long as the mediocricity continues from our coaching staff. We're on the losing end of 4 games we were in until the last minutes and we fail to get 1 win? What exactly do you consider a good game plan? A game plan is simply an overview at best,imho. Games are won and lost by the staff's ability to adjust on the fly..... every series. When was the last time UT failed to benefit from a gimmick, trick play ? As one poster stated earlier, the perfect time to run a trick play was on the 2nd attempt at a FG after 1st attempt hit the crossbar.
A total lack of innovation and the ability to adjust by a subpar coaching staff is the reason UT lost all 4 of those games. You don't hear Fla. with their 1st year coach and young line complaining do ya? Like many on here you can't see the forest for the trees. CBJ can get the recruits and they are very talented but there's no doubt he can't coach in critical situations. Failing to go for 2 pt. conversion at Fla was most obvious and I'm not gonna go into detail about others. Guess u wrote this before Ole Miss put that thumping on A&M. Ole Miss holds the tiebreaker over Alabama. I ain't no Mf'er either.
 
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walkenvol said:
I perceive Dobbs is coached to avoid turnovers above all else. Bama made some critical first downs throwing to well covered receivers and allowing them to make a play. Sure seams like our large athletic receivers ought to be given those chances to make a big play also?
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north, Williams, Croom, all injured ? our best jump ball recievers besides pearson. damn shame ain't it ?
 
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The only thing that bothers me about his passing is, he does not give his receivers an opportunity to run and catch. What that means is he tries to make a too perfect pass and gets into trouble. He needs to go duck hunting with someone in the know!
 
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MOTOVOL said:
Silly to question our O-line? I really do not understand what people on here are not seeing. Almost every time Dobbs almost immediately has people in his face. You put in QD in he gets crushed. Dobbs does make some bad throws but he made a bunch of good ones. There was a play were Hurd was open on the check down, but if you watch the play Dobbs gets the snap half our line whiffs on their blocks and he is having to scramble for his life but I guess that is his fault as well. Not a Dobbs nuthugger but just calling it like I see it. our O-line (even though they are getting better) still sucks pretty bad. Even the two old geezers said he is getting zero blocking.
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Between the shotgun form and blocking he has 3 seconds on virtually every play . There is the occasional breakdown especially against the likes of Bama ...but you can count out 3 ticks on most plays. On every pass play there is a hot read or dump off ..so if there is a break down that is is where the ball is designed to go . More often than not , it does not . He runs . Sometimes that works out . Against Bama it did not

I like Dobbs and want to see him mature into a top shelf QB . I agree that our O line is improving and has a ways to go .

I disagree with you in that the passing game is there to be had. He has 3 seconds of time , well designed plays , and receivers that are coming open . He only has to pull the trigger
 
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majic73 said:
I disagree with you in that the passing game is there to be had. He has 3 seconds of time , well designed plays , and receivers that are coming open . He only has to pull the trigger
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Where are all these open receivers you speak of?
 
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GAVol said:
Where are all these open receivers you speak of?
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Sack is moments after this still . He has held the ball approximately a fraction more than 4 seconds when he is sacked . The ball should have came at 3 ticks as the y receiver came out of his break . It is a rear shoulder pass ,,,and if executed properly at the time the receiver broke , there was not a defender within 8 yards . This is virtually every play . The issue is the lack of timing and distribution by Dobbs . The ball should be out at 3 seconds before the defense reacts. Also of note , Dobbs is fixed on the x receiver at the bottom. He is not aware of the Y wide open , unabated toward the upper sideline .

He makes the throw at 3 seconds , there is no sack and this appears to be an 8 or 9 yard gain .

I can break this down for you on virtually every play . Let me know if you need more info on a particular one
 

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GAVol said:
There's no hot read when they rush 4 and collapse the pocket. People aren't getting that Alabama didn't need to blitz to get pressure.
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They have rushed 4 off of a stemming stunt . One of the stunters has expertly delayed their transition and in effect gotten lost . This is a moment before the sack . You will find the hot read exactly where on would expect to. The hot drop is Herd ...without a defender within 8 yards . I like his chances . Again , Dobbs held the ball to the 4 second mark ...and was sacked .
 

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majic73 said:
They have rushed 4 off of a stemming stunt . One of the stunters has expertly delayed their transition and in effect gotten lost . This is a moment before the sack . You will find the hot read exactly where on would expect to. The hot drop is Herd ...without a defender within 8 yards . I like his chances . Again , Dobbs held the ball to the 4 second mark ...and was sacked .
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Some people will support Dobbs blindly all the way to hell. And some people don't know football. Then there are some that have both problems
 
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GAVol said:
The problem is, most teams don't have to blitz to get to Dobbs. They just bull rush and crush the pocket.
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Lottery Winner. The Defensive ends are crashing from the edges and the interior DL is preventing the pocket from forming.

When we hear the criticism that JD has all the time he needs to make the passes, and he can't make the completions, then JD is open to second guessing. Most of his time is spent running for his life or dodging D linemen and the occasional blitz. It is rare that he has time to begin going through his progressions.

A slightly better O line over last years needs to get much better.
 
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Nationdom said:
Some people will support Dobbs blindly all the way to hell. And some people don't know football. Then there are some that have both problems
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Agreed . I think Dobbs is improving weekly , but there are still some very objective problems . Many are trashing the offensive line , and granted they have much room to improve . If Dobbs gets the ball out to the OPEN receivers at the 3 second mark , the offensive line will be viewed as improved by the casual fan . He starts hitting within 8 yards ....the down field plays will open up as the defenses sinch up their coverage .
 
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GTvols said:
Kendall Wright made RG3 look great in his senior season. I feel that Dobbs has no chemistry with any of the recievers which is puzzling considering that its his third year.
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If its a lack of chemistry it would because he can never have the same set of receivers to throw to. Look at the injuries. Pig gone, North just came back, OLine play, WR drops.
 
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GAVol said:
When you see the wide field view where you can see the routes develop, you realize it's not Dobbs having a problem reading a defense. Our receivers aren't very good at getting separation against tight man coverage.
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I agree partly. That said, there was one play where I think it was Malone that was wide open (DB lost him) and Dobbs threw short, never seeing him open.
 
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AustinMem said:
I agree partly. That said, there was one play where I think it was Malone that was wide open (DB lost him) and Dobbs threw short, never seeing him open.
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They made a big deal out of that one, but if you watch the replay, Malone broke open at the same time Dobbs threw it underneath. It was pretty obvious that the play was designed for Malone just to run a clearing route. It's not like Malone ran free and Dobbs really missed him. But, it would be been neat to find out what would be happened if Dobbs had held onto the ball an extra second.
 
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Nationdom said:
Some people will support Dobbs blindly all the way to hell. And some people don't know football. Then there are some that have both problems
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Your best bet is lose the passive aggressive approach and worry more about where you fall in all of that.

Nobody is trying to make Dobbs out to be Aaron Rodgers. Just pointing out what's happening... which is that we have a QB with already mediocre accuracy that's not getting a lot of easy throws. I'd say it's about 20% on Dobbs, 50% on protection and 30% on the receivers.
 
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