Devrin Young....do you really think?

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Yankee_Vol said:
Why not.....can't do much worse than Poole has
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Exactly what I was thinking. Granted it's mostly due to a complete lack of anything resembling a push from our oline, but still if you're thinking he might have any role whatsoever at RB in this offense the bye week and Buffalo would be the time to work on it.
 
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hndog609 said:
Please cite where Lattimore has ever run an officially timed 10.5 100m. (somebody blogging that some coach timed him down-wind in a hurricane doesn't count) The 10.70 Young ran was in a semi of the State Championships. (his 10.76 was good for 2nd in the finals) That 10.70 would have won the state title 8 times (8!) since 2000.

Let me give you an education on 40 times across different settings. At the US Army 2010 combine Young finished in the top 10 of all players in the 40...with a 4.72. WTF you say? Yep. The fastest time run by anybody was a 4.55, by Damiere Byrd. That name ring a bell? It should, seeing as how he made the Team USA Jr team that competed in Japan in the 100m and in 2010 ran a top 10 time in the nation with an official 10.42. That 4.55 is Byrd's time on his Rivals profile but, lo and behold, his Scout profile lists 4.27.

Get rid of your 40 fascination and look at times that are taken under conditions that transfer from one place to another...officially timed track times. If you gotta whine about Young's height and weight be my guest but can we PLEASE put the speed question to rest?
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I said it was Richardson and not Lattimore that ran the 10.5, Byrd posted a high of 10.36 on his 100 meter. DY's best is 10.70 according to you all so there you go on that. If your going to post stats, make sure not to pick and choose which one you want to post.
 
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Hayezb said:
Haha. Wow.

The fact that you are obviously living by Rivals stats is ridiculous.
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What about ESPN?? I guess they screwed up on Young's 40 too. I think its funny the only place i could find that posted DY ran a 4.4 was Bearden's website. Every article or mention of DY reports he ran a 4.5. Im not saying thats slow, but that is definitely not faster than Neal.
 
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tweise said:
Yeah, that Jason Witten guy will never amount to anything.
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Wow 3 guys in 10 years. Your right, out of ALL the people that live in East Tennessee the past 10 years, the 3 guys that made it shows that we have a ton of talent in this state. How about name a successful runningback from East Tennessee?
 
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Just a thought for you all, Demps posted a best 9.96 and Rainey ran 10.31. Kimbrow's best is 10.4, Lamicheal James was clocked at 10.4 out of high school. I have never said DY is slow, but he is not the Demps or Rainey on this team. I dont know why everyone always has to get a mancrush on a local kid.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
I said it was Richardson and not Lattimore that ran the 10.5, Byrd posted a high of 10.36 on his 100 meter. DY's best is 10.70 according to you all so there you go on that. If your going to post stats, make sure not to pick and choose which one you want to post.
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In post #40 you absolutely said Lattimore.

Lattimore runs a 10.5 so yea i do. Maybe not a 4.63 but definitely along 4.5. Lattimore was about 2 milliseconds faster than DY on the 40 time and the same for the 100 time so it makes sense to me.
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Thanks for the Byrd info as the 10.42 I cited was from 2010. I'd forgotten he still had this season to go. I'm thanking you since a 10.36 casts the discrepancy I was pointing out into even sharper relief. :hi:

What is it about Young's 10.70 that puzzles you? It is not one jot more or less than presented by me or anyone else so...?
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
I will say i made an error and it was actually Trent Richardson who ran the 10.5 and not Lattimore, but the point remains the same that DY doesnt have good top end speed.
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Lattimore didnt have a 100 m time and when i saw his name on ESPN blog it had that under his name. I realized they were talking about Richardson though. I never once said DY is slow, he is quick and elusive which is great for the punt game, but he is not going to be the fastest person to ever suit up at UT and is not that fast for his size. He is not the all purpose back or UT's version of Demps.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
Lattimore didnt have a 100 m time and when i saw his name on ESPN blog it had that under his name. I realized they were talking about Richardson though. I never once said DY is slow, he is quick and elusive which is great for the punt game, but he is not going to be the fastest person to ever suit up at UT and is not that fast for his size. He is not the all purpose back or UT's version of Demps.
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I'll accept an honest mistake on the Lattimore reference but in the future it might not hurt to be sure before coming back at someone like "they" were the one presenting the wrong information.

To the boldened above you are absolutely right, to the underlined above you are absolutely wrong. A 10.70 100m is damn fast at any size...period. As posted I'll remind you (again) that a 10.70 would have brought home 8 TN 100m titles since 2000. Is he Demps/Rainey/Holliday/Harvin/Jacoby Ford/CJ Spiller/etc? No, but that comparison is as flawed as trying to say Willie Gault's 10.10 personal best is slow because Usain Bolt can run a 9.58.

Nobody (certainly not me nor anyone else I can immediately think of) has been under the impression that Young is a true national elite "burner" in the literal sense. Having acknowledged that you seem woefully underappreciative of what running under 10.80 is in the real world. If you were to go out and randomly select 100 RB's/WR's/DB's from around the country the overwhelming majority would be unable to do so. The fact Young did so twice keeps it from looking like some fluke.

Upshot; are there people faster, even a good bit faster, than Young? Yep. For some reason though you seem to be under the impression the list of people that are is a long one...it isn't.
 
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I re-watched DY's senior high school highlights. He looked pretty darn fast to me (albeit against high school competition not SEC competition) and very shifty. I really wish we would have had him for all of camp and the first couple of games. I really think we could have used him in some screens, pitches, dump off passes. I also noticed that his high school used him in punt blocking (ala Rainey) and he did block a punt. Not saying he is going to turn our running game around, but he could provide a spark in many situations that would really help later in the season. I'm excited to see him play and see what he can do.
 
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How about we use a little common sense with devron youngs 10.7 time. He was 17 yrs old. Most runners mature and are faster when they reach their college years and thereafter. If u want to compare young to rainey according to gatorzone.com rainey's personal best in 2008 was 10.66.
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jp1 said:
How about we use a little common sense with devron youngs 10.7 time. He was 17 yrs old. Most runners mature and are faster when they reach their college years and thereafter. If u want to compare young to rainey according to gatorzone.com rainey's personal best in 2008 was 10.66.
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So your telling me Rainey got .3 seconds faster?? So anyone who ran a 4.3 will run a 4 flat when they get out of college using your so called "common sense"
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
So your telling me Rainey got .3 seconds faster?? So anyone who ran a 4.3 will run a 4 flat when they get out of college using your so called "common sense"
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Go to the website. Why don't you use a little common sense and apply apples to apples. Not 100m times to 40 yd times. Are you suggesting most athletes do not get faster in a world class training program as their bodies mature. How many world championships are won by freshman?
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jp1 said:
Go to the website. Why don't you use a little common sense and apply apples to apples. Not 100m times to 40 yd times. Are you suggesting most athletes do not get faster in a world class training program as their bodies mature. How many world championships are won by freshman?
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I knew you were going to say that, 100 m races fluctuates so its hard to really compare those two. I mean there is a reason why 40 times are the most commonly used. Of course athletes will get a little faster, but not that much. If someone gets better in 100m, its their conditioning and technique not them getting that much faster. Like Lamicheal James said, anyone can run a 10.5, but can you do it the whole game.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
I knew you were going to say that, 100 m races fluctuates so its hard to really compare those two. I mean there is a reason why 40 times are the most commonly used. Of course athletes will get a little faster, but not that much. If someone gets better in 100m, its their conditioning and technique not them getting that much faster. Like Lamicheal James said, anyone can run a 10.5, but can you do it the whole game.
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So what youre saying is perhaps devrin young would post a better time with better "technique and conditioning" and his number (since we wont call it faster) might be closer to rainey's? See where Im going with this? Just using your words to make my argument. By the way did you get a chance to check out the link I posted for you? I thought maybe you would have learned your lesson when you smarted off on the previous page to another poster. Guess not.
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StlCardinals2618 said:
So your telling me Rainey got .3 seconds faster?? So anyone who ran a 4.3 will run a 4 flat when they get out of college using your so called "common sense"
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I guess I took this wrong then. I assumed you were saying my times were off. I'll hang up and listen.
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jp1 said:
So what youre saying is perhaps devrin young would post a better time with better "technique and conditioning" and his number (since we wont call it faster) might be closer to rainey's? See where Im going with this? Just using your words to make my argument. By the way did you get a chance to check out the link I posted for you? I thought maybe you would have learned your lesson when you smarted off on the previous page to another poster. Guess not.
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Uhhh im saying there is a reason people dont use 100 meter dash's that much and prefer 40's in football. 100 m is technique and conditioning unlike 40 which is usually all speed. Rainey outran Demps in a 40 race, yet doesnt come close to Demp's 100 time. There is your proof on that. If you honestly think someone is going to get that much faster in college than you are ignorant. So yea good try:salute:
 
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