Deficit up 17%

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hog88 said:
Pretty close.

As stated multiple times by multiple people, we do not have a revenue problem we have a spending problem.
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But this doesn't have anything to do with how much a difference the tax law makes to revenues.

We have a debt problem. We have to cut spending to fix it, but that doesn't mean we should just throw our hands up and say "tax cuts are fine" and kick the debt to our grandchildren. A few hundred billion sounds small, but I think we all understand compound interest here, right?

Tax cuts can create more revenue or they can make a big difference in reducing it. I wish R's got as horny for smart government as they do for any kind of tax cut.
 
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n_huffhines said:
But this doesn't have anything to do with how much a difference the tax law makes to revenues.

We have a debt problem. We have to cut spending to fix it, but that doesn't mean we should just throw our hands up and say "tax cuts are fine" and kick the debt to our grandchildren. A few hundred billion sounds small, but I think we all understand compound interest here, right?

Tax cuts can create more revenue or they can make a big difference in reducing it. I wish R's got as horny for smart government as they do for any kind of tax cut.
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I wish everybody paid taxes.
 
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n_huffhines said:
But this doesn't have anything to do with how much a difference the tax law makes to revenues.

We have a debt problem. We have to cut spending to fix it, but that doesn't mean we should just throw our hands up and say "tax cuts are fine" and kick the debt to our grandchildren. A few hundred billion sounds small, but I think we all understand compound interest here, right?

Tax cuts can create more revenue or they can make a big difference in reducing it. I wish R's got as horny for smart government as they do for any kind of tax cut.
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I’ve said before I would take a tax increase if it was accompanied by drastic spending cuts and a rock solid guarantee all surpluses would go to debt reduction.

But since there is absolutely no one in either party even attempting to cut spending and reduce the debt I’m happily taking my tax cut. We both know spending and the deficit would both have increased whether we cut was passed or not.
 
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hog88 said:
I’ve said before I would take a tax increase if it was accompanied by drastic spending cuts and a rock solid guarantee all surpluses would go to debt reduction.

But since there is absolutely no one in either party even attempting to cut spending and reduce the debt I’m happily taking my tax cut. We both know spending and the deficit would both have increased whether we cut was passed or not.
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There is, you just don't support him because he's whiny/not a good salesman.
 
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n_huffhines said:
And what? You've been bashing Paul for years. You don't get to pretend you like him when your hypocrisy on debt is pointed out.
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Yes I have bashed him mainly because he’s ineffective because he can’t sell his vision.
 
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#790

And? if he wanted to make a difference and not be a parasite he would win an executive position.
 
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That's about 145B per year. It costs approximately 70B to pay for every undergraduates tuition at a public college per year. We could have paid for everyone's education twice but instead we chose to use the money to increase the debt with nothing in return. Brilliant
 
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hog88 said:
And? if he wanted to make a difference and not be a parasite he would win an executive position.
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If you wanted to make a difference, you would support politicians who try make the government smaller, regardless of what position they hold.

The fact that you have a problem with him because he's a senator is all I need to know about how silly and petty your objections to him are.
 
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n_huffhines said:
If you wanted to make a difference, you would support politicians who try make the government smaller, regardless of what position they hold.

The fact that you have a problem with him because he's a senator is all I need to know about how silly and petty your objections to him are.
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i don’t live in KY so how do you suggest I support him? Send him money?

And I have a problem with all senators not just him.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
That's about 145B per year. It costs approximately 70B to pay for every undergraduates tuition at a public college per year. We could have paid for everyone's education twice but instead we chose to use the money to increase the debt. Brilliant
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Or we could tell everybody with their hand out to F off and use ALL of it to pay down the debt.
 
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hog88 said:
i don’t live in KY so how do you suggest I support him? Send him money?

And I have a problem with all senators not just him.
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I'd love to see the posts where you criticize anybody else for being a senator.

You know how you oppose him all the time? Do the opposite of that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'd love to see the posts where you criticize anybody else for being a senator.

You know how you oppose him all the time? Do the opposite of that.
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I don’t oppose him all the time, I make fun of him and criticize him.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
That's about 145B per year. It costs approximately 70B to pay for every undergraduates tuition at a public college per year. We could have paid for everyone's education twice but instead we chose to use the money to increase the debt with nothing in return. Brilliant
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What's the difference in the two? You really think paying for those 16th century gay poetry degrees is a good ROI?
 
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n_huffhines said:
But this doesn't have anything to do with how much a difference the tax law makes to revenues.

We have a debt problem. We have to cut spending to fix it, but that doesn't mean we should just throw our hands up and say "tax cuts are fine" and kick the debt to our grandchildren. A few hundred billion sounds small, but I think we all understand compound interest here, right?

Tax cuts can create more revenue or they can make a big difference in reducing it. I wish R's got as horny for smart government as they do for any kind of tax cut.
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Agree, but nobody in Washington, has the political will to do anything about it, Huff. It's bad for staying in business (re-election). They want to use it to blame the other side. R's and D's are equally culpable in this.
 
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Vol737 said:
Agree, but nobody in Washington, has the political will to do anything about it, Huff. It's bad for staying in business (re-election). They want to use it to blame the other side. R's and D's are equally culpable in this.
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Somehow a terrible salesman like Rand Paul keeps getting elected.

They get away with it because we don't have the will to hold them accountable. We'd rather have a s***head R than a s***head D (or vice versa), so we get what we deserve.
 
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