Da'rick Rogers

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DaRick has the ability and potential to do it all, including stretch the field. He's simply better at being physical on shorter routes at this point, I guess.

Amazing thread, though.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
That doesn't warrant getting put off the team. As a coach I would just keep the players off twitter. The guy avoided the media to keep from saying something stupid. You've got to be kidding me with some of these complaints.
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I didn't say he needed to be put off the team. You misread my words. I'm not complaining. The guy is a talent. Reread what I said and tell me where I said he should be put off the team.
 
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jortfreeTN said:
Exactly people start threads bashing our best and most consistant player then get upset when he fires back. Da'rick has become one of my favorite vols all time this season. He went from a struggleing freshman who worked his tail off to an all-SEC WR and so called fans are saying he's not VFL. I hope for his sake he kills it this year then takes his top 10 NFL money.
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I wasn't bashing him. It was a question. And if he leaves for the NFL then he wasn't a vol for life. Hence, life. Hence, he would stay here as long as he could.
 
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VolPride14 said:
I wasn't bashing him. It was a question. And if he leaves for the NFL then he wasn't a vol for life. Hence, life. Hence, he would stay here as long as he could.
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Someone leaving for the nfl makes them no longer a vol for life.

That is not only new, but genuinely retarded.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
Nicks is the fathest thing from a pure possession reciever. He is as explosive as they come as a reciever. Roddy White isn't as explosive, but is still a reciever who can stretch the field and get off man coverage very well. Rogers did that against athletically inferior players.
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So nicks was explosive this year and rogers wasnt even though they both averaged 15 yards a catch. I know college and the NFL are a whole different animal. But I'm not sure what you mean by explosive.
 
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The Da rick haters are becoming more annoying than the Dooley haters. HE IS AN ALL-SEC RECIEVER, would you rather have Zac Rogers be the starter. NOOOOO

I'll take elite talent and small issues, as oppose to 4.OO GPA and minimal talent.

Da rick I got your back man, keep doing what you're doing!

Proud you are a vol!
 
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JAllen18 said:
what an intelligent and thoughtful discussion going on in this thread.
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I'm sorry debating about a players abilities with facts and examples isn't thoughtful enough for you. Way to bring some real intelligence in to the fold.
 
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Phat-Phil said:
So nicks was explosive this year and rogers wasnt even though they both averaged 15 yards a catch. I know college and the NFL are a whole different animal. But I'm not sure what you mean by explosive.
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Randy Moss highest ypc was 19. You aren't going to get a freakish high number in nfl. Darick is really good after he catches the ball. He may be just as good as Hunter in that aspect, but thats it. Your not going to see him catching 60 yard posts or anything like that.
 
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Phat-Phil said:
Sounds about like Hakeem Nicks to me.
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How many did Darick take to the house off a short yard pass? Darick has the ability to add 10 more yards from physical strength but once Nicks gets pass a level of defenders, he is gone. Nicks caught a bunch of deep passes too, especially during his breakout year.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
How many did Darick take to the house off a short yard pass? Darick has the ability to add 10 more yards from physical strength but once Nicks gets pass a level of defenders, he is gone. Nicks caught a bunch of deep passes too, especially during his breakout year.
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Not very easy to break off long ones when the you're the only player on the field that the defense is worried about. Why do you think they give him the ball on sweeps/reverses?Because he is a playmaker.
 
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Phat-Phil said:
Not very easy to break off long ones when the you're the only player on the field that the defense is worried about. Why do you think they give him the ball on reverses?Because he is a playmaker.
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Never said he wasn't a playmaker but he never was going to take one to the house. Remember the kickoff return he almost took to the house but got caught from behind?

He doesn't have elite speed. I remember Matt Milton joking about how bad Darick's 40 time was last year.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
Never said he wasn't a playmaker but he never was going to take one to the house. Remember the kickoff return he almost took to the house but got caught from behind?

He doesn't have elite speed. I remember Matt Milton joking about how bad Darick's 40 time was last year.
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That's my point. You don't have to run a 4.4 to be a good receiver. Go back and look at some of the 40 times of some of the NFLs best receivers. He may not have elite speed but he has enough and his leaping ability makes him more of a down-the-field threat than you give him credit for. Milton was supposidely one of the fastest on the team and we see how that worked out.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
Never said he wasn't a playmaker but he never was going to take one to the house. Remember the kickoff return he almost took to the house but got caught from behind?

He doesn't have elite speed. I remember Matt Milton joking about how bad Darick's 40 time was last year.
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Neither does Anquan Boldin or Larry Fitzgerald but they're okay
 
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If he comes out and runs a 4.8 like boldin youre probably right in that he wouldn't be taken in the 1st round. But I see him running around a 4.5-4.6 which is in the range of Fitz and Hakeem. If that's the case I don't see how he stays out of the 1st.
 
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Phat-Phil said:
That's my point. You don't have to run a 4.4 to be a good receiver. Go back and look at some of the 40 times of some of the NFLs best receivers. He may not have elite speed but he has enough and his leaping ability makes him more of a down-the-field threat than you give him credit for. Milton was supposidely one of the fastest on the team and we see how that worked out.
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When did I say you had to run a 4.4 to be a good reciever? Fitzgerald, Reggie Wayne, and Jerry Rice prove thats not the case at all. Everything you said is true about Rogers, but that doesn't make him a first round draft pick. You have to be a very very special type of reciever to go in the first round.
 
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Phat-Phil said:
If he comes out and runs a 4.8 like boldin youre probably right in that he wouldn't be taken in the 1st round. But I see him running around a 4.5-4.6 which is in the range of Fitz and Hakeem. If that's the case I don't see how he stays out of the 1st.
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Nicks plays just as fast with pads on. Thats not the case with Darick. Fitzgerald arguably has the best hands and leaping ability. You also can't man up on those recievers.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
When did I say you had to run a 4.4 to be a good reciever? Fitzgerald, Reggie Wayne, and Jerry Rice prove thats not the case at all. Everything you said is true about Rogers, but that doesn't make him a first round draft pick. You have to be a very very special type of reciever to go in the first round.
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So all 3 of the people who you listed are special receivers who went in the 1st and have speed and production that is comparable to Rogers but he isn't special. It takes a special player to put up 1000 yards receiving in the SEC as a sophomore.
 
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Phat-Phil said:
So all 3 of the people who listed are special receivers who went in the 1st and have speed and production that is comparable to Rogers. It takes a special player to put up 1000 yards receiving in the SEC as a sophomore.
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Yea it does, but you have to remember that he was pretty much the only target. The coaches made plays for him to be open. He only had 2 100 yard games in SEC play and that was against Vandy and Arky. That doesn't mean he didn't play well against UF or UGA because he did play good against them. He did completely own Casey Heward who is a very good player, but stats can be misleading.

Just because he goes in the second or third round doesn't mean he isn't going to be a number 1 reciever on a NFL team. His type of skill set is usually not picked in the first round.
 
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