Daniel Helm

Im saying why didnt they get it out back then. Thats what makes them a coward.

Probably just wanted to put it behind them. And... he wanted to play football again. Regardless of the truth, other programs don't think much of players who say bad things about their previous coach on the way out.
 
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Everyone should.... no need for smear tactics

No. You don’t get it! Some KNEW before the end of His introductory PC. Complained and whined and downplayed any perceived successes. All that work and others who waited for opinions to become facts are right at the exact same time. :w00t:
 
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Cowards for getting the truth out about this guy? The team’s play on the field the last 2 years, all the players leaving, other rumors, etc.....all these things have told us there’s something up in the facility with Jones.

Swain has told his audience for a very long time that there were issues, that when the trigger was pulled on Jones, that he would share a lot of the things that he’s known for a long time. Not sure how that squares with being a coward.
Heck ueah, cowards. If there are severe issues why hid behind "media i need access?" Screw that, be a man and speak up in due time, not after a guy is fired and cant say anything in his defense.
 
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Swain has been whiny because Butch hasn't given him the access he wanted. Media guys/gals live and die by access they are given and some don't have the credibility toi be honest about it.
 
And he wasn't given the access because Butch doesn't give access to anyone who has the balls to call him out.

This ain't rocket science, sheep.
 
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And he wasn't given the access because Butch doesn't give access to anyone who has the balls to call him out.

This ain't rocket science, sheep.

I'm just amazed at the level of disconnect some still have with the state of our program. People still carrying Butch bathwater is just hilarious.
 
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I have a feeling we will be hearing more about Butch in the future. The sheer amount of players that have left the program under his watch should tell you something is wrong with Butch.
 
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Heck ueah, cowards. If there are severe issues why hid behind "media i need access?" Screw that, be a man and speak up in due time, not after a guy is fired and cant say anything in his defense.

LOL. Explain why Butch wouldnt be able to say anything ini his own defense. If Helm came out and tried to slander Butch's name, Butch could say PLENTY to defend himself. Helm acted like a professional.
 
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LOL. Explain why Butch wouldnt be able to say anything ini his own defense. If Helm came out and tried to slander Butch's name, Butch could say PLENTY to defend himself. Helm acted like a professional.

THIS, and now CBJ is being a “class act” by telling all our recruits to go somewhere else, fast. Same thing the slime bag Kiff and crew did. Slimy
 
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LOL. Explain why Butch wouldnt be able to say anything ini his own defense. If Helm came out and tried to slander Butch's name, Butch could say PLENTY to defend himself. Helm acted like a professional.

He cant defend himslef now, cause then he just looks bad.
 
There is and was no need to trash the kids or media or fans or everyhting "he built"

Why does he get to but noone can give it back??

You know its funny. Ive heard multiple people on radio say basically that cbj says stuff sometimes just to keep heat on off the kids and he takes it all, now the tune will change to this bull, all because a bunch of punk too scared to talk while he is here.
 
Aside from the Helm thing, what makes him a scumbag? People keep talking about this but not providing any details.

I know of another title 9 case that was handled very differently between differing players on the team. One is immediately removed from the team another nothing is ever said and the player never missed a practice. Even during the investigation.
There definitely were some interesting ethical issues and player preferential treatments involved
 
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LOL. Explain why Butch wouldnt be able to say anything ini his own defense. If Helm came out and tried to slander Butch's name, Butch could say PLENTY to defend himself. Helm acted like a professional.

Gotta ask yourself. If this was so horrifying and monstrous, after Helm “confided” this to Dobbs why didn’t he transfer also? Why’d he recruit others to the same situation? He a closeted POS?
 
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Swain has been whiny because Butch hasn't given him the access he wanted. Media guys/gals live and die by access they are given and some don't have the credibility toi be honest about it.

Because Swain decided not to attach his lips to butchs butt. Swain decided not to get to close bc he was going to be fair with his observation instead of taking the Ainge route and carrying water and kissing tail.
 
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Lot of people on here now singing a different tune, after running their ****ing mouth for years. Pathetic.
 
So the Helms family allowed their son to be abused and did nothing? Yeah, classy move.

My guess is the Helms wanted their son to be able to go somewhere else without a big mess folowing him, but keep up the everyone's a coward narrative if it works for ya..
 
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