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Vaccines, masks, mandates = worthless
There are risks either way.Vaccines are working well in Israel.
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While hospitalizations are increasing most importantly icu admissions are stable meaning most cases are not critical and not requiring intubation or high levels of oxygen.
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Compared to a country with much lower vaccination and booster rates
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Pretty amazing how many lives they are saving. Don’t know how you can call them worthless. Agree with you on most mandates.
Vaccines somewhat work to reduce symptoms. Problem is they do nothing for Omicron, as the director of Pfizer himself admits.Vaccines are working well in Israel.
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While hospitalizations are increasing most importantly icu admissions are stable meaning most cases are not critical and not requiring intubation or high levels of oxygen.
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Compared to a country with much lower vaccination and booster rates
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Pretty amazing how many lives they are saving. Don’t know how you can call them worthless. Agree with you on most mandates.
While the Pfizer ceo stated two shots were not helping with symptomatic disease he did say the boosters are working very well against death and good against hospitalization. We now have good data from many US states and great data from the UK that vaccine efficacy still remains high against hospitalization for both Pfizer and moderna even with only two doses.Vaccines somewhat work to reduce symptoms. Problem is they do nothing for Omicron, as the director of Pfizer himself admits.
And again, hospitalization numbers are meaningless when even Fauci, the CDC, and hospitals are now admitting that they are counting people hospitalized "with" and not "because" of covid.
Vaccines do not stop or even slow transmission.
Omicron is a cold. Of course hospitalizations are downThe
While the Pfizer ceo stated two shots were not helping with symptomatic disease he did say the boosters are working very well against death and good against hospitalization. We now have good data from many US states and great data from the UK that vaccine efficacy still remains high against hospitalization for both Pfizer and moderna even with only two doses.
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we also have data from Denmark that the vaccines do decrease omicron transmission (not stop) to a degree with the boosters.
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SARS-CoV-2 Omicron VOC Transmission in Danish Households
So it is not true that the vaccines are doing nothing against omicron. Doing quite a bit
the graph was about cases not hospitalizations. You can’t trust those numbers bc, as they now admit, they are greatly misleading. Of course they have been the whole time. But there was a different president then so the narrative was different.You really seem to want it both ways. Hospitalizations and cases are up because the vaccines aren’t working and hospitalizations are down because it’s just a cold.
But you don’t have a narrative at all.
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the graph was about cases not hospitalizations. You can’t trust those numbers bc, as they now admit, they are greatly misleading. Of course they have been the whole time. But there was a different president then so the narrative was different.
at least you tried
And? I've never been anti-vaccine. I don't care what Trump says.The previous guy endorsed the vaccine and booster.
And? I've never been anti-vaccine. I don't care what Trump says.
The point is, they pushed the fear with hospitalizations and deaths and used it as a weapon against him. Now that a dem is in the Whitehouse, they want to admit the truth of with vs from so that Biden doesn't look bad. It is completely obvious to everyone who isn't blind.
Remember when you told us they stopped transmission and blamed the unvaccinated for the spread? LOLVaccines reduce hospitalisations and deaths.
7 day average currently is just 4.
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TVaccines reduce hospitalisations and deaths.
7 day average currently is just 4.
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