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ENGRVOL

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Vaccines, masks, mandates = worthless

Vaccines are working well in Israel.
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While hospitalizations are increasing most importantly icu admissions are stable meaning most cases are not critical and not requiring intubation or high levels of oxygen.
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Compared to a country with much lower vaccination and booster rates
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Pretty amazing how many lives they are saving. Don’t know how you can call them worthless. Agree with you on most mandates.
 
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Vaccines are working well in Israel.
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While hospitalizations are increasing most importantly icu admissions are stable meaning most cases are not critical and not requiring intubation or high levels of oxygen.
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Compared to a country with much lower vaccination and booster rates
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Pretty amazing how many lives they are saving. Don’t know how you can call them worthless. Agree with you on most mandates.
There are risks either way.
It is best that everyone make a decision for themselves based on facts. Unfortunately we have both extremes running to post everything they find that supports their narrative. Context and reality aren’t really welcome here.
 
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Vaccines are working well in Israel.
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While hospitalizations are increasing most importantly icu admissions are stable meaning most cases are not critical and not requiring intubation or high levels of oxygen.
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Compared to a country with much lower vaccination and booster rates
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Pretty amazing how many lives they are saving. Don’t know how you can call them worthless. Agree with you on most mandates.
Vaccines somewhat work to reduce symptoms. Problem is they do nothing for Omicron, as the director of Pfizer himself admits.

And again, hospitalization numbers are meaningless when even Fauci, the CDC, and hospitals are now admitting that they are counting people hospitalized "with" and not "because" of covid.

Vaccines do not stop or even slow transmission.
 
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Vaccines somewhat work to reduce symptoms. Problem is they do nothing for Omicron, as the director of Pfizer himself admits.

And again, hospitalization numbers are meaningless when even Fauci, the CDC, and hospitals are now admitting that they are counting people hospitalized "with" and not "because" of covid.

Vaccines do not stop or even slow transmission.
While the Pfizer ceo stated two shots were not helping with symptomatic disease he did say the boosters are working very well against death and good against hospitalization. We now have good data from many US states and great data from the UK that vaccine efficacy still remains high against hospitalization for both Pfizer and moderna even with only two doses.
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https://assets.publishing.service.g...efing-31-Dec-2021-Omicron_severity_update.pdf
we also have data from Denmark that the vaccines do decrease omicron transmission (not stop) to a degree with the boosters.
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SARS-CoV-2 Omicron VOC Transmission in Danish Households
So it is not true that the vaccines are doing nothing against omicron. Doing quite a bit
 
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While the Pfizer ceo stated two shots were not helping with symptomatic disease he did say the boosters are working very well against death and good against hospitalization. We now have good data from many US states and great data from the UK that vaccine efficacy still remains high against hospitalization for both Pfizer and moderna even with only two doses.
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https://assets.publishing.service.g...efing-31-Dec-2021-Omicron_severity_update.pdf
we also have data from Denmark that the vaccines do decrease omicron transmission (not stop) to a degree with the boosters.
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SARS-CoV-2 Omicron VOC Transmission in Danish Households
So it is not true that the vaccines are doing nothing against omicron. Doing quite a bit
Omicron is a cold. Of course hospitalizations are down
 

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Omicron is a cold. Of course hospitalizations are down
You really seem to want it both ways. Hospitalizations and cases are up because the vaccines aren’t working and hospitalizations are down because it’s just a cold.

But you don’t have a narrative at all.

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You really seem to want it both ways. Hospitalizations and cases are up because the vaccines aren’t working and hospitalizations are down because it’s just a cold.

But you don’t have a narrative at all.

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the graph was about cases not hospitalizations. You can’t trust those numbers bc, as they now admit, they are greatly misleading. Of course they have been the whole time. But there was a different president then so the narrative was different.

at least you tried
 

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the graph was about cases not hospitalizations. You can’t trust those numbers bc, as they now admit, they are greatly misleading. Of course they have been the whole time. But there was a different president then so the narrative was different.

at least you tried
The previous guy endorsed the vaccine and booster.
 
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The previous guy endorsed the vaccine and booster.
And? I've never been anti-vaccine. I don't care what Trump says.

The point is, they pushed the fear with hospitalizations and deaths and used it as a weapon against him. Now that a dem is in the Whitehouse, they want to admit the truth of with vs from so that Biden doesn't look bad. It is completely obvious to everyone who isn't blind.
 
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Ballad Health: 97% of COVID patients on ventilators are not vaccinated | WJHL | Tri-Cities News & Weather
And? I've never been anti-vaccine. I don't care what Trump says.

The point is, they pushed the fear with hospitalizations and deaths and used it as a weapon against him. Now that a dem is in the Whitehouse, they want to admit the truth of with vs from so that Biden doesn't look bad. It is completely obvious to everyone who isn't blind.
Sure man. The headlines for Biden are just all praise and glory right now 🙄

Anyway that’s for the politics forum.
 

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