Coaching carousel going to be historic

[ButchPlz]

I think a lot of you are kind of missing the "new" calculus. NIL has genuinely leveled the playing field, and salaries being as insane as they are means a guy may not actually take a pay raise of a few million for the headache of some of these big-name programs. With the wild number of big openings and the NIL environment I think we may see the overwhelming majority of these schools get stuck with options none of their fans will be happy with in the immediate term.

I think the days of simply outbidding other schools for coaches based on their salaries is done. And I think the big conferences are close enough to each other money-wise to entice a guy into staying for a couple million a year less in salary.

 

[GVF]

If I'm LSU, I'm calling Bill Clark. Period. He's healed, healthy and ready to venure back in. The Admin situation there may not attract him though. He's been rather open about what situation he'd be looking for.

 

[TrueOrange]

Yet he and Ole Miss are virtual locks to finish 11-1 and go to the playoff and get to play for a chance to prove the narrative wrong.

Weren’t they that last year and then they dropped a game to a 5-5 Florida with 2 weeks left in the season? There’s still a lot of games left in the next 5 weeks. No one’s a virtual lock just yet.

 

[zjcvols]

If I'm LSU, I'm calling Bill Clark. Period. He's healed, healthy and ready to venure back in. The Admin situation there may not attract him though. He's been rather open about what situation he'd be looking for.

LSU is probably too big.

Now Auburn? That's who they should have hired back in 2021. The big dummies.

 

[GVF]

LSU is probably too big.

Now Auburn? That's who they should have hired back in 2021. The big dummies.

He wasn't very able at the time. He's been on the sidelines for 3 years because of back surgery and however long he dealt with the pain leading up to retiring. Reason for retiring UAB at the time. The AU opening was bad timing. If he had been healthy, maybe that would have been something to watch. IMo, he's one of the better coaches, and the most recognizeable personna for a Saban fan. Lot of similarities.

 

[McDad]

The contract buyouts and demands-for-coaching-turnover-periods are starting to get a bit out of control:

I may be alone in this but public perception for public universities to spend this on buyouts when education costs continue to increase is going to reach a tipping point. I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of prohibition for the gargantuan buyout for poor performance. They could still retain buyouts for another program to hire the coach away.

 

[LouderVol]

Weren’t they that last year and then they dropped a game to a 5-5 Florida with 2 weeks left in the season? There’s still a lot of games left in the next 5 weeks. No one’s a virtual lock just yet.

the Miami problem. as soon as people buy in, they start dropping games.

and I could see the egg bowl being very interesting.

 

[JMSqb11]

Weren’t they that last year and then they dropped a game to a 5-5 Florida with 2 weeks left in the season? There’s still a lot of games left in the next 5 weeks. No one’s a virtual lock just yet.

Ole Miss is at home the rest of the way out. Stop the "but last year" nonsense. Florida was surging into the end of the season. its why Napier kept his job.

But in the meantime, I look forward to you posting your betting slip that on Ole Miss losing during these final 4 games.

 

[JMSqb11]

Pretty sure they’ve had opportunities/chances over the last two seasons and lost a game that cost themselves it.

Edit: Also, pretty sure Missouri still has to lose one more game before they’re fully eliminated. If they come out of the next weeks 10-2 after upsetting the #3 team and beating a ranked Oklahoma, they’d pretty much be in with their resume. (It’s just honestly no one expects them to do both.)

Mizzou is not winning out with a backup QB. Stop the madness

 

[JMSqb11]

Ask Saban if Kiffin would do that. Maybe he has matured enough he wouldn't now, but he already did that once.

Saban lost a title because he ran Kiffin off at the semi final and let a drunk call plays for the first time all season in the Natty.

Stop with the dumb comparisons that make zero sense.

 

[NEO]

He leaves we need to contact Golesh.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Weren’t they that last year and then they dropped a game to a 5-5 Florida with 2 weeks left in the season? There’s still a lot of games left in the next 5 weeks. No one’s a virtual lock just yet.

Last year they beat Georgia then followed up laying an egg at Florida, and also they lost earlier in the season at home to a terrible Kentucky team.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Ole Miss is at home the rest of the way out. Stop the "but last year" nonsense. Florida was surging into the end of the season. its why Napier kept his job.

But in the meantime, I look forward to you posting your betting slip that on Ole Miss losing during these final 4 games.

Lol surging....they were 6-5 and had lost 2 of the last 3 before the Ole Miss game, and they had a dead FSU team after.

That was an absolute choke job by Kiffin and his SECOND of the year because they lost at home to Kentucky.....guess UK was "surging" too.

 

[05_never_again]

I may be alone in this but public perception for public universities to spend this on buyouts when education costs continue to increase is going to reach a tipping point. I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of prohibition for the gargantuan buyout for poor performance. They could still retain buyouts for another program to hire the coach away.

As long as it is covered by private money (and they always have been), I don't think they care.

 

[TrueOrange]

Mizzou is not winning out with a backup QB. Stop the madness

…where did I say they were definitely winning with a backup QB? All I talked about was not officially eliminated yet. I’m pretty sure the “It’s just honestly no one expects them to do both“ meant they’re most likely not going to do so.

Also, you didn’t talk about / address the main/original part of that message at all.

 

[05_never_again]

I think those two are tied to each other though. You won't see CJH divorce UT unless DW has already left for somewhere else.

This is in no way speaking to any current rumor, but I could see that as happening at some point in the future. DW is generally thought to have done a great job here, and he comes from something of a royal family of ADs. He's incredibly highly regarded in the industry. If Chris Del Conte or Warde Manuel were to retire, I could see Texas or Michigan wanting him.

 

[GVF]

I may be alone in this but public perception for public universities to spend this on buyouts when education costs continue to increase is going to reach a tipping point. I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of prohibition for the gargantuan buyout for poor performance. They could still retain buyouts for another program to hire the coach away.

How much of those buyouts come from donors though, verses public funds of the university. I don't get the big donors though that help do this. Has to be tax benfits and they structure them as charitable or something. Otherwise, there is no ROI on helping fund these buyouts when they could be earning interest somewhere else. Pur money tossing.

 

[GVF]

This is in no way speaking to any current rumor, but I could see that as happening at some point in the future. DW is generally thought to have done a great job here, and he comes from something of a royal family of ADs. He's incredibly highly regarded in the industry. If Chris Del Conte or Warde Manuel were to retire, I could see Texas or Michigan wanting him.

Successful AD's like DW are just like the Type A coaches they hire. Once they've done what they think they can do, they have an internal need to want to go do it again somewhere else. Long tenured AD's are just as rare as a long tenured P4 coach. I personally don't think he is anywhere near that junction yet, but 5 years out ??

One thing is on the table if/when that ever happens. JH is his boy.

 

[JMSqb11]

…where did I say they were definitely winning with a backup QB? All I talked about was not officially eliminated yet. I’m pretty sure the “It’s just honestly no one expects them to do both“ meant they’re most likely not going to do so.

Also, you didn’t talk about / address the main/original part of that message at all.

Mizzou is eliminated. It was official the minute their QB got hurt. Stop the lunacy

 

[05_never_again]

Oh, and Notre Dame too. He’s an alum.

 

[05_never_again]

How much of those buyouts come from donors though, verses public funds of the university. I don't get the big donors though that help do this. Has to be tax benfits and they structure them as charitable or something. Otherwise, there is no ROI on helping fund these buyouts when they could be earning interest somewhere else. Pur money tossing.

The athletic department (or a foundation tied to it) pays these buyouts with the money they have, which is revenue they've generation plus donations. None of it is public money.

The way I understand it, donations to athletic departments are fully tax-deductible as long as no benefit was received (tickets, etc.). There was a change in the tax law several years ago where prior to that, 80% of a donation to the school that resulted in a benefit for yourself actually was deductible.

For the big donors, I think the reasons behind it are 1) tax deductions, 2) the ego boost they get from helping fire the coach, and 3) many of the big donors are fans in a similar way to the rank-and-file fanbase, and they legitimately want to do something that they think will make the team better. There are all sorts of causes they can donate to that would receive the same tax break, but they're choosing to give it to the athletic department.

 

[Vol737]

We should easily be able to grab some LBs and Safeties in the portal with all of this coaching turnover. Like fishing with dynamite

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Your AD didn't have the good sense to know why Mullen was not more successful than he was. They had their coach. The coach did not have the university. The whole Mullen firing was a shanked punt. Should have fixed what needed fixing and kept him.

I tend to believe Mullen deserved to be fired, and Napier was the wrong choice to replace him.

Two things can be true at the same time.

Mullen all but quit coaching in 2021, downplayed recruiting and refused to get rid of Grantham. He also didn’t have the good sense to play Kyle Trask until Franks broke his ankle in 2019. See also his loyalty to Emery Jones over Anthony Richardson.

 

[woodpusher]

I just refuse to believe he will entertain any opening in the middle of getting ready for the playoff. The knock on Ole Miss is they can’t contend for a title. Well this is their first chance to prove the narrative wrong. Doubt he’s gonna take time away to interview for jobs. You do that when you’re eliminated from playoff contention like Drinkwitz is.

Or you're scum like Kelly was at Notre Dame.

 

[superdave1984]

Saban lost a title because he ran Kiffin off at the semi final and let a drunk call plays for the first time all season in the Natty.

Stop with the dumb comparisons that make zero sense.

Take a Midol and go back to bed.