Chris Low Says It Will Be “Difficult” For Pruitt To Stay As HC

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LittleVol said:
I lived in Houston. I'm very familiar with the demographics of the state. Thats also where I began my 3 year stint in the world of football scouting.

However, I am from the deep south. I coached high school ball for a time in North Carolina and played college ball in the south.

With that said You are correct in that Houston and Dallas Fort Worth Area are the main talent hubs of talent in the state. But places like Midland, Odessa and many many other small Texas town eat sleep and breathe football. Talent comes from these places as well. Cedric Benson from Midland. Tony Brown from Beaumont. Both 5 stars, that weren't from the metro areas.

As you also know, Houston and Dallas in themselves are spread out cities. Public trans is kind of an afterthought. Get in your big truck and go where you need to go down there haha. Geography plays a part.

If you could draw a line encircling from Harris County up to Irvine and west to Austin south West San Antonio including suburbs of each area. That would still be a significant amount of square miles. Those cities are not next to each other. Mid-State TN is closer to Knoxville in relation than DFW to Houston.

My point is there is more talent in a 5 hour radius from Knoxville ( Mid-State TN, West Carolina Charlotte, Rockhill-South Carolina, Louisiville-Cincinnati, Atlanta-Metro, and Alabama) Than the entire state of Texas which EXCEEDS 5 hour radius because the state is so big. I didnt include Memphis.

As far as the popularity. Tennessee has the SEC affiliation like Texas AM that is quite frankly dominating Talent in Texas as result for the Aggies. I only used NC, TN, GA to illustrate a point. The truth is that 5 hour radius covers multiple states all with a similar demographic in their pie section. The talent is more dense where UTK footprint is than UTA. And Atlanta-Metro alone exceeds Houston Area in shear talent. I know this for certain. Atlanta exceeds Dade County in South FLA as well.

There's a lot to consider in my argument that I'm leaving out as well.
MAIN POINT- More football talent in the 5 hour radius of Knoxville than All of Texas.
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If you’re recruiting to Texas, you don’t need to spend time in West Texas. If you get a strong share of top recruits from Dallas and Houston, you’ll compete for (and likely win) the Big 12, and be in the CFP picture. Dallas and Houston are a quick trip to Austin, and you only have one nationally relevant rival (aTm) in your region. IMO Baylor, TCU, Houston, TTU aren’t quite at Texas or aTm level in a typical year.

Using the same criteria you used earlier (4 and 5 stars in the current recruiting class), Dallas metro has more blue chippers than Atlanta metro (metro area defined as less than one hour radius by car from downtown). Dallas and Houston metros combined have more than twice the # of blue chippers as Atlanta metro.

I’d be willing to bet that if we used other criteria like current NFL players, the Dallas and Houston areas would compare well to the Atlanta area.

You indicate there is strong talent within a 5 hr radius of Knoxville. I agree 100%. However, the large majority of that talent is located out of state from Knoxville (major exception now Nashville metro). Plus, most of these recruits in the 5 hr radius live closer to one or more other P5 programs than UT-Knoxville. So, unfortunately most of these recruits have handier P5 options, and not many grew up thinking of Knoxville as their first choice for college football.
 
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Birdie said:
Now that Clow has all but confirmed Pruitt is out. Let's put aside the crazy ideas we know are not happening.

Freeze, Campbell, Fickell, Meyer, Stoops are not coming here. We don't want Fickell anyways. The rest would be a massive upgrade but let's focus on the short list of realistic football coaches.

Herman - clearly the best option

No need to waste time on anyone else. Just stop here.
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Herman is a nutty whack job, don't want.
 
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Roustabout said:
He won 64%, which isn't good enough at Texas. Why he didn't do better is a mystery. I wonder if there is dysfunction at Texas, much like at Tennessee.
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Texas has unrealistic expectations. We might have them too.

At any given time, there are probably less than 5 truly elite coaches in the game. And honestly, Saban, Meyer, and Dabo are the only one's who have had multiple championships and been able to keep their program among the elite every year. As much love as Lincoln Riley and Ryan Day get, neither coach has been able to get over the hump to win national title. Kirby Smart can sure recruit with the best of them, but is GA really doing much better under him than they were under Richt? Even Jimbo Fisher hasn't done much since going to back to back title games in 2013/2014.
 
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I work with a former Gator. I don't talk to him much obviously. Just happened to pass him in the hall and asked him about Mullen going to the NFL. He said if it happens, they have already talked to Fickell and Chadwell and both would accept the job if offered.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Herman is probably where I'd go first if we are sticking with non-NCAA issue guys. Urban Meyer tree. Offense guy. Faced Texas pressure. Actually had a decent record and was building there.
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Word on the street is that Herman is a bit of a prick to those around him plus fans and boosters. Any one have info on that?
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Played with multiple ineligible players. Thats bad. Both Freeze and Chadwell have been corrupt at their core. There are as talented HC candidates without the baggage out there we should try for first if Pruitt is fired. If we strike out then go after Freeze and Chadwell.
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You have solid source on that? Basilio claims his sins were minor from his info on the subject. At least that is what I heard last week on his show.
 
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VaBornVol said:
If Pruitt is to be fired, I’d like it to be mid season. It would be interesting to see if he would honor his commitment to his Tennessee players like he did his Alabama players
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If he's fired mid-season, he wouldn't have the option. Goodness.
 
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Birdie said:
It is. They don't spend that money. Look-up their facilities, they still practice in a bubble. We have the same money they do. Yes, they technically have billions and billions in booster cash. But expenses are only so much..they don't have nicer helmets than TN. Their office desks aren't better. Players aren't wearing fancy shoes that make them better athletes that only Texas can afford.

No. Running a football program costs a certain amount of money. TN has more than enough money to buy anything that Texas can. Name one thing they can/have buy/bought that TN can not afford to buy. One thing. I'd love to hear it because this argument is old and simple.

Also. He was successful. Maybe not to their level but when have we had anyone that could compete with Georgia, Oklahoma and other top 10-15 teams, much less beat them? He does that. If he was winning NC and conference titles every year then he wouldn't be available at all. You all want to hire Nick Saban lol. THAT AINT HAPPENING brah.

So, get a guy who has.proven he can compete and beat P5 teams or hire the next up and comer from a G5 that has a VERY small chance to be the next Saban like you want and a VERY LARGE chance on being the next Jeremy Pruitt 5-7 football coach.
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Did you do any research before you made these foolish statements? University of Texas has an endowment of almost 31 billion (2nd highest in the country), Tennessee ranks barely in the top 100 at about 1.3 billion. In fact University of Tennessee ranks behind Florida, Alabama, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Texas A & M in the conference.
 
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miket4god said:
If he's fired mid-season, he wouldn't have the option. Goodness.
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Fulmer, Dooley and Jones. All fired with games left and offered to finish out the season. Only Fulmer did. Stands to reason Pruitt would be afforded the same opportunity if fired mid-season.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Herman is probably where I'd go first if we are sticking with non-NCAA issue guys. Urban Meyer tree. Offense guy. Faced Texas pressure. Actually had a decent record and was building there.
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Hell!! He ain't seen nothing yet. That is if he is hired by UT.
 
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Chris Low's sound byte, combined with the Mark Schlabach article today that discusses how Pruitt is unable to hire assistants presently, to me seems like an attempt to get media pressure out there so that Jeremy is willing to negotiate a reduced buyout and leave.

At this point, it almost doesn't matter, because whoever is the coach next season is totally handicapped from having any success. With each day that passes, it becomes more difficult to land transfers out of the portal - we've already lost out of Jack Coan from Wisconsin at QB who the staff wanted - and we have signed a small class intentionally in order to poach the transfer market.

Oh, and there is no way Pruitt succeeds on the recruiting trail in 2022, because he clearly has ZERO job security even if they bring him back. This is a typical University of Tennessee unmitigated disaster.
 
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[QUOTE="VaBornVol, post: 19239422, member: 50923"]I have a bachelors and masters from UT. My family drove through Abingdon on their way to watch the Vols play since Battle was coaching. We went from 8 season tickets, to 6, to 4, to none now. The last year we had them (2017), you couldn’t give them away.
Sir, I am now and always have been fully aware Pruitt was not fired from Alabama.[/QUOTE]

I and many others have neither of these and we know "P" was not fired. I also expect there are quite a few that have your exemplary educational qualifications and even more than yours, that have seen no need to "blow their horn" about their educational accomplishments to state Pruitt's job history.;)
 
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MIT_Beaver said:
After the Kentucky game boosters were livid with Pruitt and moved their weight around with UTAD the day after. Booster Sentiment with Pruitt got worse as the season went on and concluded. I won’t mention a couple other things but there was a reason I was shocked Pruitt hasn’t been fired yet. I just do not know how he survives when ~85%+ of the boosters want you gone yesterday.

No ********.
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Carp said:
Texas has unrealistic expectations. We've actually been

At any given time, there are probably less than 5 truly elite coaches in the game. And honestly, Saban, Meyer, and Dabo are the only one's who have had multiple championships and been able to keep their program among the elite every year. As much love as Lincoln Riley and Ryan Day get, neither coach has been able to get over the hump to win national title. Kirby Smart can sure recruit with the best of them, but is GA really doing much better under him than they were under Richt? Even Jimbo Fisher wasn't hasn't done much since going back to back title games in 2013/2014.
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I agree that the top shelf is only made up of a few coaches currently, but I also believe there is another group (small as well) that if put in the right job could also find that same elite category.

I dont think Texas is unrealistic from this perspective. IF they hired Saban, Dabo, or Meyer they have the rest in place to get the same results that those coaches are getting and have gotten in the past at other schools.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
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he's beeeeeeeeeen waiting for this since he first said, "you're hired"
 
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I listened to The Nation podcast from this past Sunday with Price and Low and then listened again to the 3HL interview with Low. Low obviously obtained more info between Sunday night and yesterday. I’m sure this is a leak coming from UT, but my question is why? What advantage does it serve UT by leaking this to national media (if in fact they did so)? All it does is cause more damage and casts a big spotlight on them. Is it sending some type of message to interested coaches that there will be an opportunity coming up? As said in previous posts, Low isn’t going to put that out there with out verifiable sources. I’m interested in hearing your thoughts.
 
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