Chris Low Says It Will Be “Difficult” For Pruitt To Stay As HC

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vol05 said:
U serious? Wow.
Unbelievable ....well maybe not🤣
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if Florida was already vetting replacements for Mullen if he were to leave. They have been quick to pull the trigger, and have had a plan when they do, for a decade now. It has paid dividends for them, and somehow we at the University of Tennessee have never realized that moving on from a problem is not the problem itself.
 
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Narco_vol said:
You’re right. And I do agree that they have to get out in front of it. You would like to think there will be an announcement soon
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There will be an announcement sooner rather than later. You can't just have articles on the front page of ESPN just hanging out there with no resolution. Rumors is one thing, national media is another.
 
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Narco_vol said:
👆 this! Why all of you guys want Freeze is mind-boggling to me; yes, HF can coach. Yes, I believe he is a changed man for the better - but he is damaged goods IMO. Herman is the coach we can all be proud of and lead us back to our glory days. Herm to the Hill!!
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OldVol said:
If he can't hack the big 12, what on earth makes you think he'd be successful at a place that plays Bama, Fl, GA every single year?
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Good point. He was 1-4 against Oklahoma even though he had a 5-0 bowl record. Have read elsewhere where player development was an issue.
 
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I get the feeling Freeze won't be considered if we do fire Pruitt for cause. Firing a coach for cause then turning aorund and hiring a recently disgraced that got fired for cause just doesn't have great optics. Just my feelings here.

Among all the realistic options available, I'd probably go with Malzahn. Joe Brady is another one on my list if he isn't doesn't get an NFL HC offer.
 
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The most maddening thing is that this investigation reportedly began in November, and yet we're going to fire the guy 2 MONTHS LATER. Mike Farrell said he thinks Pruitt will be fired next week, and if that rumor is the case, we'll have 2 weeks till NSD.

Does anyone have faith that the UT administration will make a quick fire and hire like Texas did with Sark? NOPE! So, we'll fire Pruitt next week when it should have been done immediately after the season ended and now we'll have to hope and pray that our recruiting class doesn't asked to be released from their LOI's before the new coach is in place.

Not to mention the fact that the majority of quality assistants are being snatched up, so not only are we making it harder on the new coach to pull a class together, we're also going to make it harder on the new coach to form a staff in a very short timeframe.

I don't care if this ultimately winds up with Pruitt fired, which is what I have wanted from the beginning, it needs to be said that our university leadership continues to be an embarrassment and they have just as much blame as our past coaches for the position UT football is in right now. We had a golden opportunity to get this right and all signs point to us screwing it up once again.
 
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PruittEra said:
I'll definitely agree that herman would be a massive improvement. Ill also agree that texas a&m are threats in recruiting but the longhorns should be the biggest draw for recruits in texas. They have the history and better facilities than a&m. And yes he's lost mostly to Oklahoma but those are the same Oklahoma teams that have lost badly against the top SEC teams. Which is my main concern. He was also just fired because he wasn't meeting expectations. Granted our expectations would be lower at this point. In the end I'd gladly accept him as head coach. Or Napier or pretty much anyone else at this point...
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Do you project that Herman will defeat GA, FL and Bama? In the end that is the nut to be cracked. Go back and read the discussions on Butch, Dooley, and any other coach during similar discussions on their future. My bottom line is Better has to be Better Enough and I don't see anyone on the board that projects the recruiting and X's and o's combination to get that done. Need a new candidate, and there have to be guys not on the move that can be enticed when we have to the money in the bank and the money guys ready to do so. It can be done, CPF did it for a while, so I believe it can be done again. Dabo has done it at Clemson, more a peer than Bama or GA or FL are to UT. But our power team is gong to have to have the resources and the collective determination to pull it off.. That will take a consensus candidate for them.
 
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buckfama said:
He was pretty adamant about it too. He was basically shouting down anyone that said differently.
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Maybe he can share some of that info with Doug Matthews, who continues to spew the line that nothing is wrong and Pruitt will be the coach next year. It's maddening to listen to him on 104.5. Yesterday he said that this investigation and the uncertainty around Pruitt isn't hampering recruiting or enticing transfers. It would be nice to be so divested from the bonds of reality.
 
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RhodesVol said:
Maybe he can share some of that info with Doug Matthews, who continues to spew the line that nothing is wrong and Pruitt will be the coach next year. It's maddening to listen to him on 104.5. Yesterday he said that this investigation and the uncertainty around Pruitt isn't hampering recruiting or enticing transfers. It would be nice to be so divested from the bonds of reality.
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What world is Mathews living in? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I can see some serious signs that Pruitt is in trouble.

You can tell who is signing his paychecks.
 
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buckfama said:
What world is Mathews living in? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I can see some serious signs that Pruitt is in trouble.

You can tell who is signing his paychecks.
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He's Fulmer's long time friend, so I'm sure that's where his scripts are coming from. I just don't know how you trumpet that on a weekly basis with a straight face.
 
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vmivol00 said:
Sorry. I just disagree. If you can’t win at TX in a weaker conference, you can’t win at TN. My first choice is Freeze, behind him would be Gus. Herman wouldn’t make my list. I just haven’t seen anything impressive there.
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Then you haven't been looking:
  • Has won 71% of his games as a HC.
  • He beat Georgia in the sugar bowl
  • Has more top 10 wins as a HC in 6yrs than we do as a program in 12yrs
  • Beat CFP bound Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield among many other good and highly ranked teams (no.6 Oklahoma state, no. 11 Utah, no.20 Florida state, Mizzou, etc, etc)
  • He has top 10 offense every year
  • Took Texas to Big 12 title game in year 2 after taking over a team that was 15-21 3yrs prior (CJP is 16-19 for comparison)
  • Worst lost at Texas in 4yrs was 20pts in his first game against a top 25 team. Vast majority of his losses have been 7pts or less - meaning, he consistently fields a competitive team every week and is in every game to win it. That'd be nice to see TN do right?
  • Was 7-3 this year with 2 of his 3 losses to big 12 title game teams and all 3 were for a combined 13pts.. he was in the games
Herman has had more success as a HC than anyone we have had since Fulmer and at the P5 level too. He has a higher floor than any other option. He is the lowest risk, highest reward coach available. Someone like Napier or Chadwell might just be the next Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. They also might be Butch Jones or Jeremy Pruitt level too. We KNOW Herman is better than that and he has shown the potential to be even better. TN can't handle another complete dud. Get some stability around a competent coach.

Rick Barnes "failed" at Texas too btw
 
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OldVol said:
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I would argue that the allure for Texas in-state kids is far greater than the allure TN presents for our kids now. None of the kids we're recruitinig in state weren't even born the last time we won an SEC title. My mom is from Texas and there's that Texas thing that exists and it's very real. If Herman comes here he will be totally overwhelmed trying to recruit here. He has zero ties to the SEC. None. He'll have to build all new relationships in every area of our recruiting base. I think it would be a disaster.
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Do you think if Herman came to TN as head coach, he could hire some assistants who have ties to recruiting in the SEC?
 
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Birdie said:
Then you haven't been looking:
  • Has won 71% of his games as a HC.
  • He beat Georgia in the sugar bowl
  • Has more top 10 wins as a HC in 6yrs than we do as a program in 12yrs
  • Beat CFP bound Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield among many other good and highly ranked teams (no.6 Oklahoma state, no. 11 Utah, no.20 Florida state, Mizzou, etc, etc)
  • He has top 10 offense every year
  • Took Texas to Big 12 title game in year 2 after taking over a team that was 15-21 3yrs prior (CJP is 16-19 for comparison)
  • Worst lost at Texas in 4yrs was 20pts in his first game against a top 25 team. Vast majority of his losses have been 7pts or less - meaning, he consistently fields a competitive team every week and is in every game to win it. That'd be nice to see TN do right?
  • Was 7-3 this year with 2 of his 3 losses to big 12 title game teams and all 3 were for a combined 13pts.. he was in the games
Herman has had more success as a HC than anyone we have had since Fulmer and at the P5 level too. He has a higher floor than any other option. He is the lowest risk, highest reward coach available. Someone like Napier or Chadwell might just be the next Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. They also might be Butch Jones or Jeremy Pruitt level too. We KNOW Herman is better than that and he has shown the potential to be even better. TN can't handle another complete dud. Get some stability around a competent coach.

Rick Barnes "failed" at Texas too btw
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I feel like you do. My top 3 are Herman, Feeeze, or Mahlzan. We need a stabilizing force within the program right now. Someone who can at the least make us competitive.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Do you project that Herman will defeat GA, FL and Bama? In the end that is the nut to be cracked. Go back and read the discussions on Butch, Dooley, and any other coach during similar discussions on their future. My bottom line is Better has to be Better Enough and I don't see anyone on the board that projects the recruiting and X's and o's combination to get that done. Need a new candidate, and there have to be guys not on the move that can be enticed when we have to the money in the bank and the money guys ready to do so. It can be done, CPF did it for a while, so I believe it can be done again. Dabo has done it at Clemson, more a peer than Bama or GA or FL are to UT. But our power team is gong to have to have the resources and the collective determination to pull it off.. That will take a consensus candidate for them.
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That was my main point... my main concern is if he can compete with the best in the SEC. Herman has beat Georgia, and he's beat Oklahoma a few times but can he sustain it. Thats the true question. Imo we aren't going to beat all 3 of them every single year. But I'd take a coach that can atleast break even at this point.
 
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TeacherVol007 said:
Yet again more falsehoods from this guy. You talk in language and tones like you're rich. You post things about fancy golf courses all the time. And you claim to be a MIT grad. Face it man, you're a troll. Go create a new account with a new name, you're credibility is in the dumps.
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Will you change your tune if I post a picture of my degree? I do get to play at fancy golf courses and I am not a troll.
 
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PruittEra said:
That was my main point... my main concern is if he can compete with the best in the SEC. Herman has beat Georgia, and he's beat Oklahoma a few times but can he sustain it. Thats the true question. Imo we aren't going to beat all 3 of them every single year. But I'd take a coach that can atleast break even at this point.
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What do you project his record against those three over the first three years?
 
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vol1981 said:
Do you think if Herman came to TN as head coach, he could hire some assistants who have ties to recruiting in the SEC?
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I don't think it would matter. It would take him at least a couple of years to get his footing here and by then it would be time to fire him, based on Tennessee standards. Young, up and coming coaches are realizing this. Why do people think we couldn't give the job away 3 years ago? Auburn has the same deep pockets booster problem. They went to their 7th choice, if my math was correct. No great coach wants to go somewhere that he's not the top dog. They don't want to kowtow to a billionaire's whims.
 
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