Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[UTFanForLife]

I saw a still image today that claimed there was a ricochet off of Charlie Kirk’s bullet proof vest and then it entered his neck. I do not know the first thing about bullet proof vests, but I wouldn’t think they would be designed to cause ricochets.

Of course with today’s internet, the picture was likely all made up.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I am sick of you and everyone like you...come out and play coward.

You wanna shoot people that you hate for what they say...try it on people that are ready for it.

Lol you are so triggered.

 

[McDad]

I would if it weren't for actual adoption of policies by orgs, academic institutions, and perpetuation by media that those fringe ideas are legit.

Maybe the adoption was out of fear of offending the fringe or maybe it was concurrence with the ideas but for some reason these fringe ideas gained real power over the last 5+ years. It does appear that the majority is finally pushing back.

It's not a bad opinion. But orgs, academic institutions, and media do not write law. I can choose the orgs, institutions, and media with which i engage.

If Havard, UT, or MTSU pursue those positions, I will take my tuition dollars elsewhere.

 

[dalton_vol]

Bees are one of God's greatest gifts, and hornets are Satan's Demogoblin equivalent.

Will say this, wasps make good fishing bait

 

[CobbVol]

Would you be receptive to an opinion that those making those claims are very fringe and those claims are not being adopted as factual by our society?

No.

The media is publishing those claims he mentioned with confidence and anyone that goes against is radical and fringe. Labeling CK as polarizing is feeding their false narrative

 

[n_huffhines]

Kinda like your party that's been using Nazi tactics for the past 8 years?

Modern left liberals have far more in common with Nazi ideology than Trump ever thought of having.

Let's make it a 1:1 comparison. Making a comparison of Trump to your perception of the left makes this an impossible discussion.

Let's go band for band.

Who has the modern left elected nationally that is more nazi than Trump?

 

[BeardedVol]

Nope you suck and Democrats are evil this day and age.

MAGA amnesia is truly a terrible disease; running rampant these days it seems.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

This was a very tragic act of violence.

Whether you agreed with Charlie Kirk or not no one should be murdered for expressing their first amendment right of free speech.

Charlie Kirk whether you want to admit it or
was a pioneer. He was a conservative and Christian who who walked into hostile environments where conservatives and Christians were not welcomed and changed the landscape of politics on college campuses. I watched some of his older videos where he had no support and very little turnout to having thousands show up to his events and mostly pro audiences. He made a connection with the young conservative movement.

Charlie Kirk lived the American dream. A community college dropout who built a million dollar business with a beautiful family.

I didn’t always agree with what he said but the first amendment gave us both the right to express our opinions and beliefs and this is What makes The United States of America the greatest country in the world.

I had a lot of respect for Charlie Kirk not for his politics but for his unwavering Faith in Jesus and the way that he loved his family and country.

RIP Charlie Kirk.

 

[hog88]

I don't know the man. I don't follow his events or his socials. But based on what his supporters and his opponents have shared here, I do not believe this is accurate. I think it is opinion based in fact. I suspect he actually advocated for protecting innocent Israelis. The mechanism or protection may be similar or the same as the mechanism of violence, but the perspective of the man should be considered.

Examples to illustrate:
a vote for trump does not mean advocating for his presidency. For some, it was a vote against Harris.
a firearm can be seen as a of protection and a tool of defense depending on the intention of the person involved.

In Huff's defense, protecting Israelis is equal to killing innocent Palestinians.

 

[screenthis]

Yes it is. I texted my son yesterday who is 21 when it happened and told him you realize how evil democrats are now. He I know and they have been for awhile

This type of 'team thinking' is part of what is wrong with America. Team Blue. Team Red. Yes, I do realize how misguided some Republicans and Democrats are.

 

[dalton_vol]

Lol, never expect a MAGA Christian™ to actually be familiar with the teachings of jesus.

as opposed a liberal "christian" and their deep knowledge?

 

[BeardedVol]

Kinda like your party that's been using Nazi tactics for the past 8 years?

Modern left liberals have far more in common with Nazi ideology than Trump ever thought of having.

Can you define "Nazi tactics"?

Also, are these the tactics used by the Nazis before or after they were "brainwashed by Hitler" as you believe?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

We are hitting bottom.

After a limited time, the discussion will begin to improve. In a few weeks, this event will be clearly in the rear view mirror.

This is only the second time I've seen someone posting about actually wanting to shoot someone.

I think volfanjustin lost his cool back in 2020 and straight up told me he'd take the opportunity to shoot me.

 

[evillawyer]

This, basically

 

[n_huffhines]

Will say this, wasps make good fishing bait

Now you got me wondering if wasps and hornets relations. I didn't know they were until I looked it up. @Grand Vol hornets are apparently a specific type of wasp.

 

[dalton_vol]

This type of 'team thinking' is part of what is wrong with America. Team Blue. Team Red. Yes, I do realize how misguided some Republicans and Democrats are.

No dude. Completely wrong. One party loves America, the other party hates America. This is not about blue team versus red team. It's about Americans who love America versus Americans who hate America. You're way off dude

 

[ButchPlz]

What is happening in GAZA is also at the beheast of their own actions that incited the retaliation. It's simple. Stop trying to wipe Jews off the face of the earth and they will not retaliate.

Out of curiosity, have you done any research on the foundation of Israel just before and around 1948?

 

[NorthDallas40]

@NorthDallas40
In an age when math, objectivity are considered white supremacist constructs, and biology denial and the wrecking of. childrens' young life is 'affirming healthcare', nothing isn't polarizing. 20 years ago - hell, 10 years ago - border security wasn't white supremacy.

'Polarizing' in and of itself implies nothing about the 'polarizing figure', without observing who's the polarized. It's a nothing term in current context; the conversation and examination should be about the polarized whose propensity to violence has ramped way the FU in the last decade.

I find no issue with any of your comments here. Specifically polarizing as a response vs the label polarizing figure. I used that exact distinction earlier today.

 

[hog88]

Let's make it a 1:1 comparison. Making a comparison of Trump to your perception of the left makes this an impossible discussion.

Let's go band for band.

Who has the modern left elected nationally that is more nazi than Trump?

Obama and Biden and like Trump neither was close to being NAZIesque.

 

[Ttucke11]

We are hitting bottom.

After a limited time, the discussion will begin to improve. In a few weeks, this event will be clearly in the rear view mirror.

I hope not. Political assassinations of peaceful men should echo for a long time.

 

[luthervol]

I am sick of you and everyone like you...come out and play coward.

You wanna shoot people that you hate for what they say...try it on people that are ready for it.

So you think I want to shoot people that I hate because of what they have to say?????
Are you 7 or 97? Anyone in between should have the mental fortitude to know better.
You might want to take a vacation.

 

[McDad]

No.

The media is publishing those claims he mentioned with confidence and anyone that goes against is radical and fringe. Labeling CK as polarizing is feeding their false narrative

Just because you are called a name, doesn't mean you are wrong. If your position is truth, then:

Truth is incontrovertible. Panic may resent it. Ignorance may deride it. Malice may distort it. But there it is.’ ~ W. Churchill.

 

[screenthis]

No dude. Completely wrong. One party loves America, the other party hates America. This is not about blue team versus red team. It's about Americans who love America versus Americans who hate America. You're way off dude

So do let me know your primary source of information. What do you take in from the media? These statements are just idiocy, IMO.

 

[volinbham]

It's not a bad opinion. But orgs, academic institutions, and media do not write law. I can choose the orgs, institutions, and media with which i engage.

If Havard, UT, or MTSU pursue those positions, I will take my tuition dollars elsewhere.

I was suggesting that even if the ideas are fringe they were adopted far beyond the fringe and as a result a broad swath of the country was impacted by actions grounded in these ideas being true.

 

[LouderVol]

The nazi party platform was written in late 1919 early 1920, and Hitler was the undisputed leader of the party by 1921. To say that he "brainwashed" the members into their hate filled views, is 100% a lie.

you need to look up the DAP and Harrer and Drexler. they started out as a democratic group, hitler wanted them to change. drexler refused and harrer was publically outspoken against hitler, hitler left, and would only come back if they put him in charge, they did because they were losing power. Harrer died shortly after Hitler came back from the jail after the Pusch, allegedly to wounds he suffered about a decade previously. Drexler only rejoined the Nazis after Hitler took over Germany, but was only kept as a figure head. I will let you do the math.

Hitler is the one who pushed the violent side of the anti-semitism. previously the push was "just" to put them in ghettos and to not let them vote.