CFP NC Game

#77
#77
My money would be on Texas to win the CFP next season. OSU will be losing some key players and will make it to the playoffs but not the finals. And with the new format, it will be harder for teams to repeat. I don't think we will see a lot of that. With the old format, all you had to do was win two games against other elite competition. Now you have to win four straight. That's not easy task for any team to complete when you are playing top tier opponents. It's going to be even harder to do that two seasons in a row.
 
#79
#79
My money would be on Texas to win the CFP next season. OSU will be losing some key players and will make it to the playoffs but not the finals. And with the new format, it will be harder for teams to repeat. I don't think we will see a lot of that. With the old format, all you had to do was win two games against other elite competition. Now you have to win four straight. That's not easy task for any team to complete when you are playing top tier opponents. It's going to be even harder to do that two seasons in a row.
The 12 team format is making the FB playoffs more like the BB tourney now. More challenging. Interesting article I read if we still had the 4 team playoff, the OSU loss to Mich would have probably knocked them out of it. With a couple of changes the 12 team is going to be good for CFB.
 
#80
#80
Many nfl draft gurus have the Ohio State roster as having as many as 16 2025 draft picks on this team. Their team was stacked, and reportedly spent $20M of NIL to assemble. You’re trying too hard to downplay the obvious, or you just don’t know what you’re talking about. Go back and do a little research and see if 16 draft picks from a singular team would be unique …

I never said they weren't talented nor did I say they lacked future NFL players. I just don't see many NFL stars on their roster. It's not that weird by the way for a national title winning roster to lack NFL stars. 2020 Alabama is arguably one of the most dominant national champions in recent memory and the only stars from that team in the NFL right now are Patrick Surtain and Jaylen Waddle. Mac Jones, Alex Leatherwood, and Evan Neal have been huge busts. DeVonta Smith and Najee Harris have been average at best.

2019 LSU with Joe Burrow, Jamarr Chase, and Justin Jefferson are outliers. Usually you don't see the national title winning team produce many future NFL stars. These teams win national titles because of their depth of talent. Not because they have NFL stars all over the field.
 
#81
#81
Based on some quick Googling, about 250 players get drafted per year. Around 1% of those end up in the HOF(a fair gage of "elite" in my mind). So you can expect about 3 elite players per entire draft class. So, having 2 from the same team in any given year, plus 12 more drafted is pretty remarkable.

You don't need to be a Hall of Famer to be elite. I define elite as a Pro Bowl caliber player. And there's way more than 3 Pro Bowlers in any given draft.
 
#82
#82
What? They had a guy on radio this morning that is a draft expert. He said Ohio St has, at the minimum 14 players who will be drafted and 10 others that could be or will be UDA. How many past Champions can claim that? They have talent all over the field and is one of the better teams we've seen the past 10 yrs. On draft day, we will see Ohio St players drafted early and often. And that's not counting the ones not eligible to be drafted this year. Sorry man, but I'm going to side with the experts on this, not message board posters that don't know anything about drafting players.

You can get drafted. Doesn't mean you'll be good. I said we won't look back at this roster as being loaded with future NFL stars like we do 2001 Miami for example. Or 2019 LSU. Or even 2014 Ohio State.
 
#83
#83
The 12 team format is making the FB playoffs more like the BB tourney now. More challenging. Interesting article I read if we still had the 4 team playoff, the OSU loss to Mich would have probably knocked them out of it. With a couple of changes the 12 team is going to be good for CFB.
 
#85
#85
You don't need to be a Hall of Famer to be elite. I define elite as a Pro Bowl caliber player. And there's way more than 3 Pro Bowlers in any given draft.
The Pro bowl is a popularity contest. Also do you think only one or 2 of the possible 14 guys to be drafted off that team will ever make a pro bowl? We see things very differently if so.
 
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#86
I never said they weren't talented nor did I say they lacked future NFL players. I just don't see many NFL stars on their roster. It's not that weird by the way for a national title winning roster to lack NFL stars. 2020 Alabama is arguably one of the most dominant national champions in recent memory and the only stars from that team in the NFL right now are Patrick Surtain and Jaylen Waddle. Mac Jones, Alex Leatherwood, and Evan Neal have been huge busts. DeVonta Smith and Najee Harris have been average at best.

2019 LSU with Joe Burrow, Jamarr Chase, and Justin Jefferson are outliers. Usually you don't see the national title winning team produce many future NFL stars. These teams win national titles because of their depth of talent. Not because they have NFL stars all over the field.

I would put 2022 Georgia over 2020 Alabama.
 
#87
#87
Just all a matter of preference. I haven't watched an NFL game in years. I've tried, but it just doesn't interest me at all. Sure, the players are ridiculously talented, but it bores the crap out of me.

I’ve been a college football fan my whole life, been to so many games and have taken my family to so many as well. It’s just not the same anymore. These guys aren’t playing for schools anymore, just themselves and whoever is the highest bidder year after year.
At least in the NFL the talent is better, they are under contract for more than 9 months, and it’s the teams themselves who pay their players. In college now it’s just some 3rd party collective with technically no ties to the school. So who do our players even play for? I have no idea because I don’t know who is paying them. If you’re a professional you play for who pays you.
 
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#88
#88
The Pro bowl is a popularity contest. Also do you think only one or 2 of the possible 14 guys to be drafted off that team will ever make a pro bowl? We see things very differently if so.

Most Pro Bowlers are good players worthy of the selection. Sure there are outliers but in general it's a decent metric for judging how good a player is.

I'm just not impressed by this Ohio State team. They don't immediately impress me the way the 2014 squad did when they won it all.
 
#90
#90
Our best game all season wouldn’t have beaten a playoff team. Our best win was a weak Bama team
I feel like we could have beat SMU and Boise and possibly the CFP version of UGA with the backup QB....Clemson may have been a possible CFP team we could have beat as well.....

But, it is all conjecture at this point...on to 2025.
 
#91
#91
I’ve been a college football fan my whole life, been to so many games and have taken my family to so many as well. It’s just not the same anymore. These guys aren’t playing for schools anymore, just themselves and whoever is the highest bidder year after year.
At least in the NFL the talent is better, they are under contract for more than 9 months, and it’s the teams themselves who pay their players. In college now it’s just some 3rd party collective with technically no ties to the school. So who do our players even play for? I have no idea because I don’t know who is paying them. If you’re a professional you play for who pays you.
I totally agree. It's a bit depressing, because it's been such a huge part of my life. I just hope someone can somehow create a workable solution.
 
#92
#92
I totally agree. It's a bit depressing, because it's been such a huge part of my life. I just hope someone can somehow create a workable solution.

And by solution, let's hope for something better than the "sit down and shut up" advocates of this wonderful new world usually run with.
 
#93
#93
Everybody pretty much had a decent defense with ok running game . But in the playoffs only 1 team had a WR group that was just too good to cover all 3 the whole game . Tate, Smith, and Ebuka were just too much vs every secondary they went up against . We had 0 WRs that were a threat consistently 0
 
#95
#95
My money would be on Texas to win the CFP next season. OSU will be losing some key players and will make it to the playoffs but not the finals. And with the new format, it will be harder for teams to repeat. I don't think we will see a lot of that. With the old format, all you had to do was win two games against other elite competition. Now you have to win four straight. That's not easy task for any team to complete when you are playing top tier opponents. It's going to be even harder to do that two seasons in a row.
I hope we can make it back to the playoff and get another shot at OSU. I’d love to drill them at full strength. Too many question marks and players out for it to be a positive outcome for us this year. We might not have won, but it would’ve been much closer.
 
#96
#96
Most Pro Bowlers are good players worthy of the selection. Sure there are outliers but in general it's a decent metric for judging how good a player is.

I'm just not impressed by this Ohio State team. They don't immediately impress me the way the 2014 squad did when they won it all.
Fair enough. We just have different definitions of elite I suppose.
 
#97
#97
Downs, Howard, Smith, Egbuka, Ransom, Henderson, Tuimoloau, Elchenberg, McLaughlin, Montgomery, and Judkins will all have long NFL careers. Predicting who will be elite NFL players is impossible. Just ask any NFL GM. But nobody will be shocked if any of those guys make the pro bowl, and I'm sure I'm leaving out a few. They are absolutely LOADED with talent. You don't steam roll your way through 4 top 10 teams without being loaded. I can't believe we're even debating this.
I’m finally understanding why people detest D4H so much.
 
They have been getting paid for years now it’s just negotiable Legally.
Payments aren’t the problem. I think most folks agree the players should share in the profits they are helping generate. (There may be some consternation though when a few teams have a $50 million budget and we are scrambling to raise $20 million but that’s for another day.)

The issue that so many are having trouble with is the transfer portal with no rules and players transferring on a whim as many times as they like. In my view, that’s a big problem and it’s going to get worse.
 

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