CFP NC Game

#51
#51
They didn't get hot, the OSU coaches embarrassed our coaches. That and Nico shopping around between the Vanderbilt game and the OSU game pissed the whole team off.
I couldnt imagine watching sports with this mindset. You've taken a very baseless rumor and turned it into a reason to blame Nico in a game where was the only thing keeping us even remotely alive.

I could show you about 10 articles right now discussing how they got "hot" at the right time. They are a level above us talent wise and it showed when we played.
 
#52
#52
Texas had them on the ropes. Oregon beat them in the regular season. Michigan embarrassed them at home. They were not head and shoulders above everyone. They just got hot at the right time.

This is how the new playoff era will be. It'll be like the NFL playoffs where once you get in it'll be about who gets hot at the right time.

We're still a ways away from being a national title contender. We need more talent on this team if we wanna be the sort of team that can go on these hot streaks down the stretch.
Once I saw our WRs struggle to get separation all game long (on top of other position struggles and inefficiencies) I had the exact same thought. We are closer but we need to be a notch above talent wise to get there.
 
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#53
#53
Texas had them on the ropes. Oregon beat them in the regular season. Michigan embarrassed them at home. They were not head and shoulders above everyone. They just got hot at the right time.

This is how the new playoff era will be. It'll be like the NFL playoffs where once you get in it'll be about who gets hot at the right time.

We're still a ways away from being a national title contender. We need more talent on this team if we wanna be the sort of team that can go on these hot streaks down the stretch.
I totally agree, we were a solid team with a favorable schedule but when we play someone like Ohio St. the recruiting/talent gap shows.

I love JH and I hope he's here for a long time, but we can't keep recruiting in 6-9th best range in our conference and get over the hump.
 
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#54
#54
Strongly disagree. I don't see any elite NFL stars on their roster outside of possibly Smith and Judkins. This is no 2019 LSU or even 2014 Ohio State. We're not gonna look back 5 years from now and see NFL superstars from this roster.
Many nfl draft gurus have the Ohio State roster as having as many as 16 2025 draft picks on this team. Their team was stacked, and reportedly spent $20M of NIL to assemble. You’re trying too hard to downplay the obvious, or you just don’t know what you’re talking about. Go back and do a little research and see if 16 draft picks from a singular team would be unique …
 
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#56
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Many nfl draft gurus have the Ohio State roster as having as many as 16 2025 draft picks on this team. Their team was stacked, and reportedly spent $20M of NIL to assemble. You’re trying too hard to downplay the obvious, or you just don’t know what you’re talking about. Go back and do a little research and see if 16 draft picks from a singular team would be unique …
To be fair, he said future "elite" NFL players on Ohio State's roster. So 15 or 16 could still be drafted and maybe 1 or 2 players actually end up being really good, with the rest just being role players.
 
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#59
#59
Wow.

I no longer think we are far away from being a great team. OSU is just heads and tails above everyone this year.

We were all fighting for second place. We just had the unfortunate seed to play them first.
Yep, they sure earned it cause we know that was the hardest path
 
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#60
#60
Would love to have seen us with the home game vs OSU. May not have made a difference but a closer game may have put a chink in their armor. Just food for thought.
 
#61
#61
Wow! OSU fans went from embarrassed to show their faces in their own stadium/wanting to fire their coach to barking like a dog behind a glass door in exactly one calendar month.

I bet I know what Bob Kesling say about this…
 
#63
#63
Yep, they sure earned it cause we know that was the hardest path

100%. Can't take anything away from them, they had the toughest path of the CFP and pretty much dominated everyone. I know the Texas game was closer than others but IMO it felt like OSU had it in hand the entire time.
 
#64
#64
To be fair, he said future "elite" NFL players on Ohio State's roster. So 15 or 16 could still be drafted and maybe 1 or 2 players actually end up being really good, with the rest just being role players.
Based on some quick Googling, about 250 players get drafted per year. Around 1% of those end up in the HOF(a fair gage of "elite" in my mind). So you can expect about 3 elite players per entire draft class. So, having 2 from the same team in any given year, plus 12 more drafted is pretty remarkable.
 
#65
#65
Wow.

I no longer think we are far away from being a great team. OSU is just heads and tails above everyone this year.

We were all fighting for second place. We just had the unfortunate seed to play them first.
Absolutely, they were heads and shoulders above everyone else when they were actually playing focused. When you are talking about 18-22 yr olds, they aren't going to be on every week. They are like Michigan like we are with Fla. A bunch of times we had a much better team than UF, yet we always play our worst game against them. From a talent and Assistant Coach's, we are so far behind Ohio St. They have an elite offensive and defensive Coaching staff. They can recruit and develop at a high level. We don't have that, especially on the offensive coaching side. We have a pretty good defensive staff, but our offensive staff is very mediocre. And that's being nice.

Me personally, I think we still have a ways to go. CJH is never going to upgrade his offensive staff. Our OL and WR Coaching is average at best. I may be wrong, but I really think Coach's have caught on to what CJH does on offense. I definitely could be wrong and hope that I am..Me personally, I'd love to see Heupel bring in a veteran Playcaller and kind of mesh their 2 systems together. Take the best of what each offense does and incorporate them into one really good offense that is much less predictable. I've never coached a day in my life, but even I can tell what play is coming half the time. Obviously it won't ever happen, but it would be nice. GBO
 
#67
#67
Strongly disagree. I don't see any elite NFL stars on their roster outside of possibly Smith and Judkins. This is no 2019 LSU or even 2014 Ohio State. We're not gonna look back 5 years from now and see NFL superstars from this roster.
What? They had a guy on radio this morning that is a draft expert. He said Ohio St has, at the minimum 14 players who will be drafted and 10 others that could be or will be UDA. How many past Champions can claim that? They have talent all over the field and is one of the better teams we've seen the past 10 yrs. On draft day, we will see Ohio St players drafted early and often. And that's not counting the ones not eligible to be drafted this year. Sorry man, but I'm going to side with the experts on this, not message board posters that don't know anything about drafting players.
 
#69
#69
The head scratcher is that they have two losses.

And in 4 team CFP, they would not have even sniffed the playoffs. Neither would have ND.
I think people placed too much emphasis on the losses and ignored the potential. OSU lost by one point to Oregon on the road after a star lineman went down before the half and it sent the line into a bit of disarray for a while. The loss to TTUN was an aberration just like Notre Dame's loss to N. Illinois and Tennessee's loss to Arkansas. Throw those games out when evaluating upside and weaknesses. Stuff happens and all teams have bad outings now and then. So if you use the game with Michigan as a predictor of matchups, you will likely find yourself studying the wrong film.

Prior to the season, the reason OSU was picked as the Natty favorite by many was because they thought the team had too much talent to not win it all. For a good portion of the season, OSU was talked about as the most under-achieving team of the season. The team was sleepwalking through a lot of games. There was no spark and they weren't playing like champions. Fans were getting angry and impatient. But most everyone agreed that if they started to play like champions should play, they would be hard for anyone to beat. For whatever reason, it wasn't until the post-season when everyone got around to actually getting off their butts and playing to their potential. But when it happened, the floodgates opened and we saw the actual upside of the team. Outside of Georgia, they played every top-eight ranked team in the playoffs this season and beat them all by an average of 15.5 points. That's a stat that will probably stand for a while even in the new CFP era. Other teams had elite similar talent at the upper end. OSU just has a lot more of it. Any team where the third-string receivers and backs would be the star on most teams is going to be challenging to beat unless they just implode in a comedy of errors like they did against Michigan.
 
#70
#70
To be fair, he said future "elite" NFL players on Ohio State's roster. So 15 or 16 could still be drafted and maybe 1 or 2 players actually end up being really good, with the rest just being role players.
Downs, Howard, Smith, Egbuka, Ransom, Henderson, Tuimoloau, Elchenberg, McLaughlin, Montgomery, and Judkins will all have long NFL careers. Predicting who will be elite NFL players is impossible. Just ask any NFL GM. But nobody will be shocked if any of those guys make the pro bowl, and I'm sure I'm leaving out a few. They are absolutely LOADED with talent. You don't steam roll your way through 4 top 10 teams without being loaded. I can't believe we're even debating this.
 
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#72
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Downs, Howard, Smith, Egbuka, Ransom, Henderson, Tuimoloau, Elchenberg, McLaughlin, Montgomery, and Judkins will all have long NFL careers. Predicting who will be elite NFL players is impossible. Just ask any NFL GM. But nobody will be shocked if any of those guys make the pro bowl, and I'm sure I'm leaving out a few. They are absolutely LOADED with talent. You down steam roll your way through 4 top 10 teams without being loaded. I can't believe we're even debating this.
Agree. What I interpreted what he was trying to say was that “hey they only have two elite future guys on this roster, they just got hot at the right time”.

Two things can be true at the same time: Their roster was without a doubt loaded more than any roster outside maybe Oregon. They certainly got hot at the right time and won four tough games against four formidable opponents.

I just don’t think you can look at a team and say “only two elite nfl guys on this roster” and use that as a logical argument to downplay the talent on the roster. Like you said, “elite” future nfl guys are tough to predict (anyone remember a guy named Tom Brady), but the fact that nfl draft guys think this OSU roster could surpass the infamous UGA roster from a couple years ago in total nfl draft picks confirms this roster was elite, regardless of who becomes a future nfl HOFer.

I do agree with the gentleman for saying the team got hot at the right time. They did. But Boise State getting hot and OSU getting hot are two different things, because the ceiling with OSUs roster is a different animal.

It will be interesting to see if future CFP outcomes are similar, or if they deviate
 
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#75
#75
We actually had a better chance coming out in the 2nd half than either Oregon or Notre Dame. Not that we had a chance to win or anything but at least as close as those two
Ohio St - Oregon was over early in the second quarter. 34-0. I was feeling sorry for Oregon coach.
 

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