CBJ: "We're ready to own expectations"

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jakez4ut said:
i think you can lose 2. GA or FL aren't going to go 11-1.

both will wind up at worst 8-4, probably 9-3?

so if you're looking to pick losses...aTm and Bama are the two you'd pick if you had to pick 2. lose those 2, win the rest, and i'll see you in ATL.
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You guys do know we're not getting a chance like this again anytime soon? This whole we can lose 2 games and be fine is baloney.

This team is a national title contender. You ain't getting into the playoff with more than 1 loss. We need to be 11-1 minimum if we want to accomplish our goals.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You guys do know we're not getting a chance like this again anytime soon? This whole we can lose 2 games and be fine is baloney.

This team is a national title contender. You ain't getting into the playoff with more than 1 loss. We need to be 11-1 minimum if we want to accomplish our goals.
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11-2 SEC championship with us hovering around the top 8 all year will get us in.

especially if we were to beat a top 3 Bama/LSU in the title game.

this 15-0 national title talk is garbage.

and i wasn't talking about the playoff or national title. i specifcally said we could win definitely win the East by losing 2, as long as the two weren't FL and GA.:peace2:
 
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ReaderVol said:
And he will be leading the charge.
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it's called context. there's a difference in blowing a game, and getting beat.

the "freak out" factor after OU and FL were completely different than after Bama....for very obvious reasons.
 
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Early season games are always questionable as players are still finding themselves as far as gelling as a team. So if Kentucky beats Florida in the second game. I'm probably going to have to go to the doctor to get my ribs bandaged from laughing. I've never rooted for Kentucky, but really, wouldn't that just be the best early Saturday?
 
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It really is a fascinating and worrisome topic. It's THE topic this year. Which game can U.T. lose and still get away with living up to expectations?

You look at this schedule. It's ALL front loaded. U.T. is going to have to bust out the gates like a kentucky thoroughbred. It's going to be a blood sweat and tears dash to T.Tech. When was the last time U.T. won EVERY game in the middle of their season? There will be injuries. You will have to be PERFECTION. Lets say they get through the Battle @ Bristol, Floriduh, then we start to get on a roll and georgia needs a game to make a name for their new coach? The hype for the salami game will be insane if we get through dawgs without a loss. It will be billed as MAKE OR BREAK for both teams. And you have to deal with A&M first. With Trevor Knight at QB. Wanna' talk about tired. Wanna talk about needing a break? These kids are going to have to ALL step up at some point to get to that point of the season with out a loss. Then, if by some miracle we get through A&M without looking ahead to salami and then beat salami. the tanks will be very low, and every team in the rest of the schedule will be looking to play spoiler and wanting a piece of the vols to make a name for themselves. Lets say a team like S.C. starts to gel for a new coach, a team that no one is paying attention to and they jump up and have ONE good game at the right time?

One more thing. Either U.T. is going to lose to salami or salami is going to lose to U.T. but BOTH will not be going to the playoffs. U.T. with 2 loses is not going any where near a playoff. get that out of your head. If it comes down to U.T. with 2 loses or salami with 2 loses who do you think is getting in?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You guys do know we're not getting a chance like this again anytime soon? This whole we can lose 2 games and be fine is baloney.

This team is a national title contender. You ain't getting into the playoff with more than 1 loss. We need to be 11-1 minimum if we want to accomplish our goals.
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"Salami, iyam."
-- IluvdoubleD's
 
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jakez4ut said:
11-2 SEC championship with us hovering around the top 8 all year will get us in.

especially if we were to beat a top 3 Bama/LSU in the title game.

this 15-0 national title talk is garbage.

and i wasn't talking about the playoff or national title. i specifcally said we could win definitely win the East by losing 2, as long as the two weren't FL and GA.:peace2:
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I just don't see us getting in to the playoff with 2 losses. The LSU team that accomplished that a few years ago was a once in a generation type deal, maybe even more rare than that (it probably won't happen again tbh). No more than one loss and an SEC Championship is the only way we're getting in.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
I just don't see us getting in to the playoff with 2 losses. The LSU team that accomplished that a few years ago was a once in a generation type deal, maybe even more rare than that (it probably won't happen again tbh). No more than one loss and an SEC Championship is the only way we're getting in.
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that was the BCS where the computer had a say.

there's no way that if we went 10-2 in the regular season and get to ATL...that means we had to beat probably FL or Bama at home and/ or GA on the road.....

we're likely playing a top 4 Bama again or LSU.

11-2 SEC champs.....you're going to have to find 4 other teams with outstanding resumes.

and again, my original point was only that we could definitely get to ATL with the 2 losses, originally had nothing to do with the play off or national title.

you win the SEC and let the chips fall where they may.
 
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and folks, we aren't winning a national title this year....
 
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Alright, lets say we have floriduh whipped by 14 and in the last 5 minutes of the game the backup converted wide out comes in for gators and pulls a one point upset. Then we meet salami and beat them. We each have one loss and go to Atl. One of us is coming out of there with 2 losses. It don't matter how you slice that cake we are going to have to beat salami and we are going to have to do it convincingly.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
So I guess my pointy is.. what is our expectations? To get to ATL? If we don't is it a bad season?
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Not playing for an SEC Championship this year...YES...that would mean something is STILL wrong...
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
If that's the case, then why did everyone FREAK out last year after every L?

Folks expect us to win every game. Period.

You know the site will explode if we lose a single game.
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Because the losses were unnecessary, were "blown wins". Up two scores in the 4th vs Oklahoma at home .....up a TD with less than 6 minutes to play at Bama....up by 13 with 10 minutes to play at Florida....up 14-0 at home vs an average Arky team in the midst of a 3 game losing streak. 3 bad losses kept a good season from being a special season.

I agree we'll be expected to win every game this year and yes, any loss is gonna very likely receive a tremendous amount of criticism especially if any of them resemble other bad Jones Era losses.

That being said, it sure seems to me that a 10-2 regular season is the general concensus around here, primarily because of the headcoach's "decision-making" IMO. Some are significantly low balling IMO and saying 9-3, the occasional poster says 11-1....and of course, you're certain we're going 15-0 and winning the national title.
 
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KBVol said:
Because the losses were unnecessary, were "blown wins". Up two scores in the 4th vs Oklahoma at home .....up a TD with less than 6 minutes to play at Bama....up by 13 with 10 minutes to play at Florida....up 14-0 at home vs an average Arky team in the midst of a 3 game losing streak. 3 bad losses kept a good season from being a special season.

I agree we'll be expected to win every game this year and yes, any loss is gonna very likely receive a tremendous amount of criticism especially if any of them resemble other bad Jones Era losses.

That being said, it sure seems to me that a 10-2 regular season is the general concensus around here, primarily because of the headcoach's "decision-making" IMO. Some are significantly low balling IMO and saying 9-3, the occasional poster says 11-1....and of course, you're certain we're going 15-0 and winning the national title.
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As long as Butch Jones stays out of the way.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
If I couldn't muster any more hope than this for this upcoming season, I don't think I would bother watching.
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He is stating fact. The NC game is played in January of 2017, so we won't win it until next year "calander". But more to your point of "hope", I think we are past hopeing and dreaming for wins. We have the talent and experience to go toe to toe with any team in the SEC along with any team in the country. Our Captains( and I like how we have two offensive and 2 defensive) will take ownership in the way games are managed.

D4H posted as long as CBJ stays out of the way, that's over the top, but ultra conservative play was a major contributor to the OK and FL losses last year. I do wonder if behind closed doors did he have conversations with the players about how those 4th qtrs were managed. He has placed ownership on the players does that include going for points instead of milking the clock. The only time a team #120 should run the clock out is when we can get in the victory formation and just take a knee, other than that our 2's or 3's need to be scoring points. It is our opponents responsibility to stop us and teams don't quit.

Go Vols!

Run the Table!
 
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Iam4utalways said:
He is stating fact. The NC game is played in January of 2017, so we won't win it until next year "calander". But more to your point of "hope", I think we are past hopeing and dreaming for wins. We have the talent and experience to go toe to toe with any team in the SEC along with any team in the country. Our Captains( and I like how we have two offensive and 2 defensive) will take ownership in the way games are managed.

D4H posted as long as CBJ stays out of the way, that's over the top, but ultra conservative play was a major contributor to the OK and FL losses last year. I do wonder if behind closed doors did he have conversations with the players about how those 4th qtrs were managed. He has placed ownership on the players does that include going for points instead of milking the clock. The only time a team #120 should run the clock out is when we can get in the victory formation and just take a knee, other than that our 2's or 3's need to be scoring points. It is our opponents responsibility to stop us and teams don't quit.

Go Vols!

Run the Table!
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"Run the Table!"??...... Thank God!
 
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orange parmejohn said:
If I couldn't muster any more hope than this for this upcoming season, I don't think I would bother watching.
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Crazy Ivan said:
Dammit. Thanks for ruining the ending for me.
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oh i'm hopeful. beat FL. win 10 games. go to ATL. fantastic, looking forward to it. hope rings eternal.

but i'm a realist too. i'm not opposed to winning it all this year. it just ain't happening. there's probably a 1/2 dozen teams with as good or better odds of winning than us. 2 of them are in our own conf. then you got OSU/Mich/FSU/Clem/OU...and none of them have nearly as tough a road just to get to the play off, much less win it.
 
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KBVol said:
"Run the Table!"??...... Thank God!
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It means win all the games we play, not operating a craps table at a casino.

The other was just too out of the box for some to get on board.

There are many that don't like shakers or checkerboards or standing or sitting. Even one Ga fan that would rather win 8 games than 10(it's sad but it did not suprise at all).

I still believe in the concept of the other but it ruffled too many feathers of Vol fans and don't get me wrong I don't mind ruffling feathers but that's not my purpose to bug on other Vol fans we have had too hard of a time over the past few years, leave that to our beloved Florida and Bama fans that honor us with their presence.

Go Vols!
 
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