Butch post-game presser had me shaking my head for the first time...

[calban]

Amazing how much more effective the read option is with a QB that actually runs the ball.
Would have Dobbs spend some time with the RB coach on putting the ball away though.

 

[Vol_is_Lyfe18]

Mockery is not an argument. Any idiot can mock. You lack any argument.

Saying the same thing repeatedly is not an argument. You argue in circles. Dobbs in not as innacurate a passer as you claim, for his completion percentage was higher than Worley's last year. I'm sure you'll spew some garbage, as always, to refute my post, however.

 

[American Pig]

Works for you...why are you so dishonest?...why won't you answer my questions?

Lying is not a virtue butchna. Neither is mindless chattering and mockery.

 

[butchna]

Saying the same thing repeatedly is not an argument. You argue in circles. Dobbs in not as innacurate a passer as you claim, for his completion percentage was higher than Worley's last year. I'm sure you'll spew some garbage, as always, to refute my post, however.

You're being dishonest and won't answer his questions...Peterman is a CURRENT four star and he broke his thumb last year...what's your answer!

 

[CNCVol88]

Yep, I agree. You just missed the point.

Peterman has proven time and time again he's ineffective. I'm sorry but it's true. The phrase "you perform how you practice" has always been a huge load in my mind. I'm a musician and I have to say I know people who practice great. They can't perform worth crap. Same is true in the opposite. Peterman may practice great but when the pressure is on he folds. Dobbs however thrives on pressure.

 

[voldawgforever]

I work with the English department at UT. If you need help formatting future posts, I can do that for you.

Shut the **** up

 

[butchna]

Lying is not a virtue butchna. Neither is mindless chattering and mockery.

You're going to answer my question Talking Pig! Why did he break his thumb last year, and why did you lie about it? He's a four star so I'll know if you're lying. :scare:

 

[BeecherVol]

Yes, of course. However, I think Jones realizes the one with the most potential as an accurate passer and good runner in his offense will never be developed due to a huge political problem with fans who are easily swayed by surface perceptions and brief periods of shine.
Dobbs was coached heavily over the summer and received outside QB school tutoring, yet the inaccurate passing remains unchanged. This flaw has proven prohibitive to attaining stable consistent offensive attacks - and may not be correctable.

I imagine Butch doesn't want to start over at QB with a rookie freshman next year, or tie his wagon to an experienced Dobbs with a known fatal flaw. He is now at risk of never developing the potential of a sleeper horse in the stable who he knows proved a very accurate, capable passer in practice, but rarely played and never got a chance to develop any rythym.

I doubt he threw all of his attention and effort toward just one of the QBs in the off season.

What I know. Dobbs is the first QB that has been able to run this offense in its entirety to this point. Does he have flaws? Points of improvement? Absolutely. But the offense has not looked like that against a legit defense since Jones has been here.

 

[American Pig]

Saying the same thing repeatedly is not an argument. You argue in circles. Dobbs in not as innacurate a passer as you claim, for his completion percentage was higher than Worley's last year. I'm sure you'll spew some garbage, as always, to refute my post, however.

Where have I used a circular argument?
Holding empty mockers accountable when they fail to answer my questions or deal honestly with the facts I present is NOT circular reasoning. Noise and mockery are not a substitute for answers and reason.

Dobbs has been consistently highly inaccurate in the past. The inaccurate passes, overthrows and interceptions killed us last season. This pattern continued in practice. Dobbs was demoted below Peterman following the Summer competition. Dobbs never shook the awful throwing. I understand you have not watched the hundreds of identical throws from the competition. Butch and the coaches did. I did too. It was very real.

Dobbs started off last season with a few sweet passes that had us all hopeful we found our QB - including me. Unfortunately, reality set in as those powerful passes became airballs, ducks and wild overthrows to defenders. The interceptions piled up.

Look, I think Dobbs is the best we have to compensate for a complete disaster on the Offensive line, but I'm not stupid. I know the history and the skill sets these guys possess. So does Butch for that matter. He knows he has a predicament. That's why he is reticent.

 

[RollerVol]

I watched his presser and he didn't do anything wrong. He just isn't tipping his hand tulip much.

He was trying not to smile because he knows this team is close.

They will beat SC this weekend.

Is this a guarantee? :whistling:

GO VOLS!

 

[American Pig]

You're going to answer my question Talking Pig! Why did he break his thumb last year, and why did you lie about it? He's a four star so I'll know if you're lying. :scare:

He broke it in the Florida game Spanky. Hit a defender's helmet with his hand resulting in the first interception - beginning the meltdown.


Why did he break his hand? Umm, ask him.

Now demonstrate a single incident of a lie from me. Otherwise, your claim is a lie - from you.

 

[Joe Vols]

Before you get too down on Butch. He did plan on putting Dobbs in on the 3rd series from the beginning according to the announcers. He doesn't have a problem with Dobbs, if he did he would have never gotten off the bench.

 

[Vol_is_Lyfe18]

Where have I used a circular argument?
Holding empty mockers accountable when they fail to answer my questions or deal honestly with the facts I present is NOT circular reasoning. Noise and mockery are not a substitute for answers and reason.

Dobbs has been consistently highly inaccurate in the past. The inaccurate passes, overthrows and interceptions killed us last season. This pattern continued in practice. Dobbs was demoted below Peterman following the Summer competition. Dobbs never shook the awful throwing. I understand you have not watched the hundreds of identical throws from the competition. Butch and the coaches did. I did too. It was very real.

Dobbs started off last season with a few sweet passes that had us all hopeful we found our QB - including me. Unfortunately, reality set in as those powerful passes became airballs, ducks and wild overthrows to defenders. The interceptions piled up.

Look, I think Dobbs is the best we have to compensate for a complete disaster on the Offensive line, but I'm not stupid. I know the history and the skill sets these guys possess. So does Butch for that matter. He knows he has a predicament. That's why he is reticent.

Here's your problem: we mock you because we've answered your stupid questions plenty of times to which you respond "Why are you evading my question, blah, blah, blah." The fact that every time we answer your question, your response runs along the lines that you believe we're lying, shows you argue in circles.

If Dobbs is as inaccurate as you claim, then so is Worley. Dobbs had a higher completion percentage than him last season, and Dobbs played both Auburn and Missouri, SEC West/East division champs.

Peterman is not the guy. He's had his chances and shows the same every game. As you say, Butch has seen this before.

 

[vollygirl]

Where have I used a circular argument?
Holding empty mockers accountable when they fail to answer my questions or deal honestly with the facts I present is NOT circular reasoning. Noise and mockery are not a substitute for answers and reason.

Dobbs has been consistently highly inaccurate in the past. The inaccurate passes, overthrows and interceptions killed us last season. This pattern continued in practice. Dobbs was demoted below Peterman following the Summer competition. Dobbs never shook the awful throwing. I understand you have not watched the hundreds of identical throws from the competition. Butch and the coaches did. I did too. It was very real.

Dobbs started off last season with a few sweet passes that had us all hopeful we found our QB - including me. Unfortunately, reality set in as those powerful passes became airballs, ducks and wild overthrows to defenders. The interceptions piled up.

Look, I think Dobbs is the best we have to compensate for a complete disaster on the Offensive line, but I'm not stupid. I know the history and the skill sets these guys possess. So does Butch for that matter. He knows he has a predicament. That's why he is reticent.

Of the four in the QB drill at the spring game, Dobbs was by far the most accurate. Where is your "practice info" coming from, out of curiosity?

 

[sjt18]

Butch knows the hard realities about Dobbs. He also knows the fans are now in love and deluded by a few moments of shine. Butch knows that the problems with Dobbs wild and inaccurate throws are not resolved, so the problem is not fixed. He saw all this play out last year and seemed to get worse in the offseason. He knows that tying his horse to Dobbs means erratic passing with lots of garbage turnovers. He even saw it last night, while the fans were falling in love. He knows Dobbs issues are not resolved. Butch has a bit of a political pickle on his hands.

You have to be a troll or the most abject racist to ever post here... no one can be that stupid.

 

[American Pig]

I doubt he threw all of his attention and effort toward just one of the QBs in the off season. [QUOTE/]

Nobody claimed any such thing.

What I know. Dobbs is the first QB that has been able to run this offense in its entirety to this point. Does he have flaws? Points of improvement? Absolutely. But the offense has not looked like that against a legit defense since Jones has been here.

OK.

 

[Vol_is_Lyfe18]

He broke it in the Florida game Spanky. Hit a defender's helmet with his hand resulting in the first interception - beginning the meltdown.


Why did he break his hand? Umm, ask him.

Now demonstrate a single incident of a lie from me. Otherwise, your claim is a lie - from you.

A single demonstration that you've lied? Hmmm, you're the one that made up Peterman broke his hand. There ya go. You lied.

 

[apkvol]

Sheep.

So you DO know more than the coaches? Hmmm, tell us about that.
opcorn:

 

[American Pig]

You have to be a troll or the most abject racist to ever post here... no one can be that stupid.

You should be ashamed...but that requires a conscience.
You have no argument.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Butch knows who the future of the program is. Its Dobbs. The guy balled out last night and that was his first start. Just think what he could have been doing if he had been playing earlier this year. If I was coach, I'd stick with Dobbs even if Worely is healthy. Worley is a great QB when he has a experienced OL. But that just isn't the case. We need a mobile QB.

Butch knows that we still have a problem at QB. Hobbs had two really good series, but began to fall back into the problems he had during the Spring and Fall practices. He fumbled in the open field, threw a number of passes into double/triple coverage, and missed passes high to the receivers.

His running game was very good and the offense perked up with his running. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the season and next year's Spring practices develop. Next year could be very interesting.

 

[butchna]

He broke it in the Florida game Spanky. Hit a defender's helmet with his hand resulting in the first interception - beginning the meltdown.


Why did he break his hand? Umm, ask him.

Now demonstrate a single incident of a lie from me. Otherwise, your claim is a lie - from you.

Quit hiding behind the Ukrainian Crisis...Peterman went into yesterday's game with 4 stars and was photographed on the sideline with just three. Someone knows where that fourth star is and only one of us has watched 400 hours of practice disguised as a towel rack...I passed a polygraph before posting this.

 

[American Pig]

A single demonstration that you've lied? Hmmm, you're the one that made up Peterman broke his hand. There ya go. You lied.

Are you seriously claiming Peterman did not break his thumb against Florida?

I understand ignorance is rampant among the Peterman bashers, but even the announcers last night discussed this fact on TV. See, I never lied. Your claim that I lied is proven a lie. Truth Matters

 

[Vol_is_Lyfe18]

Are you seriously claiming Peterman did not break his thumb against Florida?

I lack of information is a problem among your crowd, but even the announcers last night discussed this on TV.

I never lied. Your claim that I lied is proven a lie.

No, I'm claiming that you claimed Peterman broke his hand vs Florida. He didn't. I know he broke his thumb, but several times this week YOU said hand. Reading comprehension is so hard.

 

[mcompton]

smh

 

[American Pig]

Butch knows that we still have a problem at QB. Hobbs had two really good series, but began to fall back into the problems he had during the Spring and Fall practices. He fumbled in the open field, threw a number of passes into double/triple coverage, and missed passes high to the receivers.

His running game was very good and the offense perked up with his running. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the season and next year's Spring practices develop. Next year could be very interesting.

This is correct. I wish I was that tactful.