Butch and Dobbs

#253
#253
American Pig said:
Spare me the BS excuses Beecher. The fact is Peterman won the number 2 spot. A mountain of evidence supports that fact. All the evidence supports that fact. If you want to lie to yourself and write your own narrative, that's your prerogative, but I'm not an idiot. I follow the evidence - evidence you consistently ignore and never answered.

Don't pretend your rank speculations about recent coaching decisions are evidence that overturn well-established facts, while the solid facts and evidence I laid out are 'speculation'. You only indict yourself and lose my respect.
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Yes. He was the 2. The starter is out for the season and he still is the 2. Maybe you should find some happiness that he hasnt dropped from that position.
 
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If you cant admit that right now, at this current and present moment, that Dobbs is better than Peterman...then something just doesnt add up in your thick skull. There is no hope for you.
 
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GAVol said:
Honestly, I still don't think you can really say definitively what Peterman is or isn't.
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I dont hate the guy - I just think he has a better chance of playing somewhere else -- sure there are back ups, but who really wants to do that their whole college career ? Who knows he could be a decent Qb at say, Kansas, Illinois, Maryland etc - I always wonder why Mitch Mustain settled for 2nd fiddle by transfering to USC
 
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VonVol said:
I never tried to argue anything you said. I stated from the beginning I don't care who plays as long as we win. My only real opinion is that you are possibly insane. Maybe you are dating Peterman or really want to be dating him. Either way you are way too invested in him. And I find it weird. I'm certain I have an argument there.
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Drop the word "possibly" from this post and you're spot on.
 
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American Pig said:
We already know about your superficial opinion based on so little playing time. Stupidity is cheap. Smart people would withhold judgement until he gets some real time.
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Smart people can also infer things based on who is on the field and who is not.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
One more thing before I let you be right. Since your so into proof and quotes, please show us the quote/proof where CBJ and staff said: "We are gonna go ahead and name Peterman the backup because Dobbs is gonna redshirt, even though he (Dobbs) is the better QB." You can't because it has never been said. Your whole argument is based on conjecture, just like everyone else.
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That won't happen. He was so thoroughly beaten by the evidence, so this lame excuse is his final refuge. He has no place else to hide.
 
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GAVol said:
Smart people can also infer things based on who is on the field and who is not.
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Yes, and Peterman was on the field at #2 up to and including Bama.

The facts are overwhelming. Peterman won that spot. Dobbs has improved and moved into the #1 spot based on Bama and SC. Butch is still withholding judgement far more than the fans.
 
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American Pig said:
Yes, and Peterman was on the field at #2 up to and including Bama.

The facts are overwhelming. Peterman won that spot. Dobbs has improved and moved into the #1 spot based on Bama and SC. Butch is still withholding judgement far more than the fans.
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Holy moly....almost 2 hours in rush hour traffic. I come back and find Pigs still flying. :loco:

Go ahead dude, react....say something "clever", I dare ya.......
 
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American Pig said:
Yes, and Peterman was on the field at #2 up to and including Bama.

The facts are overwhelming. Peterman won that spot. Dobbs has improved and moved into the #1 spot based on Bama and SC. Butch is still withholding judgement far more than the fans.
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So Peterman should see some early snaps this weekend against a manageable UK defense?
 
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American Pig said:
Yes, and Peterman was on the field at #2 up to and including Bama.

The facts are overwhelming. Peterman won that spot. Dobbs has improved and moved into the #1 spot based on Bama and SC. Butch is still withholding judgement far more than the fans.
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Or .... with Peterman's redshirt already used up, Butch determines that he'd be #2 and there was no point in burning another year of Dobbs' eligibility being a mop up guy if Worley could get 6 wins.

Only the coaches know the answer ... and it's a moot point anyway.
 
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GAVol said:
Or .... with Peterman's redshirt already used up, Butch determines that he'd be #2 and there was no point in burning another year of Dobbs' eligibility being a mop up guy if Worley could get 6 wins.

Only the coaches know the answer ... and it's a moot point anyway.
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I can only imagine what comes next.
 
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GAVol said:
If that's the case, why wouldn't they have brought Peterman back in for a series or two against Alabama to get snaps under his belt? Did the score being just close enough somewhat paint Butch into a corner? Not arguing- asking a legitimate question.
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GAVol, That's a fact, not my opinion that both would play. Perhaps you missed the pregame announcement that both would play? The TV announcer lady brought it up in pregame. Apparently, the student section seemed to know that Peterman would play briefly against Bama, followed by Dobbs for the balance.

I do think the sudden flurry of scores in the second quarter kept things interesting. Dobbs surprised Bama with his strong running threat and put up a touchdown and field goal by half. It took Bama a while to adjust to Dobbs mobility. It took major pressure off the O-line. Why mess with it?

Honestly, Butch knows Peterman doesn't merely need 'snaps under his belt' as much as he needs a chance to settle down and get in the flow of a game. He needs to establish some rhythm, chemistry and get into the flow. The problem has been that Peterman keeps 'getting snaps' against ferocious defenses that blitz him incessantly. He is getting smashed two seconds after the ball is snapped and has never played any length of time in a reasonably winnable situation.

Trust me, Butch understands the predicament. He knows Peterman is the best raw passer in the stable, but may never get a chance to develop. He knows Dobbs has the mobility, is game ready and represents a formidable running threat enough to win games now. He is also expressing his concern over Dobbs longstanding problem with erratic throwing (inconsistency) that might never be corrected.
 
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