Bryce Brown Gone

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VolBuck24 said:
1. College Football in general not just the SEC and 2. He was hurt pretty much all year so i think he has enough speed to get around them, or strong enough to break their tackles but we'll never know.
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Being injury proned isn't exactly a plus, I have mentioned that several times.
 
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PA Vol said:
the ones saying he was an overrated, unrealized potential prospect are stupid.
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No. It is stupid not to look at his skills and make an honest assessment. He's big. He's fast. He's apparently quick. None of those things translated into SEC level skill last year.

Brown went over 50 yards 4 times last year. Memphis, WKU, Ohio, and SoCar. The only one remotely impressive is SoCar. Against USC he hit a 37 yard run then went 8 for 23 on the rest of his carries.

he was a true freshman in the SEC playing behind a senior back that finished in the top 3 of the conference. oh dear lord, he sucked!!!!!11111
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Oh Lord, why don't you exaggerate.

No one that I've seen said he sucked. He just wasn't anything like great. In limited opportunities, Poole and Oku showed more of the skills that make a great SEC back. It doesn't mean he can't or won't develop those skills... but his PT had alot more to do with Kiffin wanting to show '10 recruits that he could get and play the #1 player than it did his effectiveness.
 
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There was a very good chance BB would not have won the starting job anyways. Poole got the shaft all last your.
 
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sjt18 said:
The absolute most you could say about Bryce Brown was that he was a talent... a "diamond in the rough". Both Poole and Oku showed more RB skills in their limited PT than Brown.

By this time last year, Abrams-Ward, Bailey, Sawtelle, and several others were gone. Subsequently, Coleman and Donald left.

Everyone seemed to think it was great that CLK was cleaning house. So far this year, Brimfield left because he was lazy and Brown may be leaving because of some type of personal issue.

You are inconsistent to say the very least.
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Diamond in the rough was never applied to Bryce Brown. It was used to refer to Toney Williams, and the quality of running skills he displayed during the Spring last year before his injury. Since he wasn't as highly regarded as Bryce or David Oku and since the coaches stated again and again that he was consistently over achieving, Diamond in the Rough definitely is appropriate for him.
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VKAman said:
We have hundreds of Tennessee high school players who would love the same thing, but that doesn't mean they would help us the way Bryce Brown would...
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Brown didn't make one run that I'm aware of last year that was critical to the outcome of a game. His best games came mostly against the worst teams. He was not particularly effective against credible defenses when the game was still on the line.

He may have become a major help... and may yet I suppose... but he didn't do enough to convince me last year. With the same opportunity, I think Poole or Oku would have done at least as well.
 
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Kevinyaheard said:
Diamond in the rough was never applied to Bryce Brown. It was used to refer to Toney Williams, and the quality of running skills he displayed during the Spring last year before his injury. Since he wasn't as highly regarded as Bryce or David Oku and since the coaches stated again and again that he was consistently over achieving, Diamond in the Rough definitely is appropriate for him.
Thanks.
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Brown has speed, size, strength, and quickness.

He did not show cutting ability, vision, tackle breaking, moves,...

By definition: Diamond in the Rough... regardless of how he was rated by recruiting svcs when he was in HS.
 
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Kevinyaheard said:
Diamond in the rough was never applied to Bryce Brown. It was used to refer to Toney Williams, and the quality of running skills he displayed during the Spring last year before his injury. Since he wasn't as highly regarded as Bryce or David Oku and since the coaches stated again and again that he was consistently over achieving, Diamond in the Rough definitely is appropriate for him.
Thanks.
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Brown has speed, size, strength, and quickness.

He did not show cutting ability, vision, tackle breaking, moves, the ability to set up blocks, running intelligence,...

By definition: Diamond in the Rough... regardless of how he was rated by recruiting svcs when he was in HS.

He may have and may become great. He was NOT great last year.
 
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sjt18 said:
No. It is stupid not to look at his skills and make an honest assessment. He's big. He's fast. He's apparently quick. None of those things translated into SEC level skill last year.

Brown went over 50 yards 4 times last year. Memphis, WKU, Ohio, and SoCar. The only one remotely impressive is SoCar. Against USC he hit a 37 yard run then went 8 for 23 on the rest of his carries.



Oh Lord, why don't you exaggerate.

No one that I've seen said he sucked. He just wasn't anything like great. In limited opportunities, Poole and Oku showed more of the skills that make a great SEC back. It doesn't mean he can't or won't develop those skills... but his PT had alot more to do with Kiffin wanting to show '10 recruits that he could get and play the #1 player than it did his effectiveness.
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Maybe you should work for scouting agencies. For some silly reason they gave him the #1 rating.
 
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timmy said:
Maybe you should work for scouting agencies. For some silly reason they gave him the #1 rating.
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They project. We don't have to project. We can look back and watch what he did. He has ability but did not show polished RB skills last fall. That's simply a fact that you can accept or deny... but it is still a fact.
 
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sjt18 said:
His best games came mostly against the worst teams. He was not particularly effective against credible defenses when the game was still on the line.
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you're going to knock Brown but throw out this eval on the other RB's?

sjt18 said:
In limited opportunities, Poole and Oku showed more of the skills that make a great SEC back.
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those 2 played against lesser D's than BB did
 
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Tennessee football is bigger than any one player, or two, or three. You need the middle of the pack players talent wise, who bleed orange, the ones that it means something to wear that orange jersey, the ones that will give it that extra effort, thats what you win with.
 
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if he's leaving bc of kiffin then he wasn't a vol to begin with. if it's personal reason's I hope everything works out for him.
either way UT football will be just fine!
GBO!:good!:
 
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I would rather lose him than any offensive lineman at this point. Have we lost enough players in 2 years to form a new team? This getting rid of Phil is really working out well. Isn't it?

I am looking for an 8 and 5 season 2 years after we got a new coach. I so love "change".
 
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utvolpj said:
you're going to knock Brown but throw out this eval on the other RB's?
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Throw out whose eval on what RB's?

those 2 played against lesser D's than BB did
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Oku's open field skills were good and got better all year on returns. Hardesty pretty much did nothing vs VT. In three attempts, Poole had 15 yards... maybe the most dominant any D was vs UT all year.

I'm not claiming that either guy has proven himself. I'm saying that Brown didn't with significant opportunities and both of these guys showed more polish in limited opportunities.
 
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sjt18 said:
I have never said he "sucked" but there was certainly nothing great about what he showed last year. It may have been him making the adjustment. It may have been injuries. But I have consistently said the same things about him.

No. We really wouldn't. I've been blasted but have consistently said that from what I'd seen Poole was a better RB than Brown.
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me too,,im not changing my tune now,,maybe he was hurt.Just never really impressed me.Took my lumps here last year for saying it.
 
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sjt18 said:
Throw out whose eval on what RB's?



Oku's open field skills were good and got better all year on returns. Hardesty pretty much did nothing vs VT. In three attempts, Poole had 15 yards... maybe the most dominant any D was vs UT all year.

I'm not claiming that either guy has proven himself. I'm saying that Brown didn't with significant opportunities and both of these guys showed more polish in limited opportunities.
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umm the eval you provided (see below). Poole was also playing against the scrubs but you're right he could have been better than Hardesty based on those 15yds.

Poole and Oku showed more of the skills that make a great SEC back.
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saying BB wasn't strong against average D's is understandable (I don't agree). However claiming Poole and Oku have the skills he doesn't is crazy. They never played against the same strength D

and returning kicks has nothing to do with being a RB
 
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We do seem to have a problem keeping potentially good players. Why is that? I always wondered why we can't recruit and keep a star QB lately.
 
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BamanTn said:
Tennessee football is bigger than any one player, or two, or three. You need the middle of the pack players talent wise, who bleed orange, the ones that it means something to wear that orange jersey, the ones that will give it that extra effort, thats what you win with.
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Fine. You recruit the middle of the pack players you speak of, then I'll recruit elite talent the way USC, Florida, and Alabama do, and I'll beat your team by 40.
 
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My main complaint about BB from what I saw last season was his seeming inability to break tackles. Everytime I watched him run, he always appeared to go down at first contact every time. I'm not just saying this because he's gone (or might be one). It's well documented that I said this several times before. Now whether or not that was related to his hip injury I don't know. I'm simply saying what I saw of him on the field.

Having said that, there's no denying he has enormous potential. Anytime you lose a player with that much potential is NOT a good thing. I don't care how deep you are at that position. That doesn't change the fact that he is a great athlete who could've helped our team win. Right now I'm just hoping that he returns and wants to be a part of this team. If he doesn't, then yes that hurts and it IS a set back.
 
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