Bryce Brown (CLOSED)

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some of y'all on this board are just plain haters. What has oregon ever done to Tennessee? Nothing. There's no need to hate on every team that's not Tennessee. It just makes you seem ignorant.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
How is that relevant to where Bryce Brown should go to school? He doesn't get to take the NC trophies home. The only ones he can take credit for are the ones he helps win. And I think he has a better chance of that at Oregon than at UT.
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Well, if you've been playing football for over 100 years and have NEVER won the NC, why should he think there's any chance you ever will? And, if the guy wants to play for a team that has, that eliminates the Ducks.

Why don't you post messages on the Duck's board? Is there one? Please let us know where?
 
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utmba93 said:
The height of arrogance. What basis do you have for forming an opinion about UT football and what it's capable of doing?
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I think that I've already laid out the basis for my opinions in previous pages. But, since you ask, I would say that last season is a start.

utmba93 said:
You really don't know much about UT football, so you might keep your comments on that matter to yourself. It may have been 10 years since our last championship, but I can't imagine being a fan of a team who has NEVER won one that it call its own.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Past championships are for fans to enjoy. Players are more interested in where they will be able to win one on their own merit.

Anything is possible. But, given the current state of affairs, I don't see that being as like at UT vs. Oregon in the near future. Judging by pre-season rankings, most others who study this agree.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
Actually, Oregon won outright in 1994 and 2001. Where are you getting your information?

It was UT that formed a team a few years before Oregon. I didn't say that their tradition is "better." Imo, that would be a senseless assertion since the appeal of the tradition would obviously depend on the persons experience with each program. I was just pointing out that Oregon has been carrying on the tradition of playing football for around the same amount of time.



I disagree. They are relevant to the topic of Bryce Brown.



Are you sure that you are speaking for the entire board on this? I think I've been reasonable enough, despite insults being hurled at me. At least some here seem to appreciate an outside perspective on the subject. I appreciate hearing your take on it, even if I don't agree all the time. That's why I made an account in the first place.
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If Bryce Brown makes his decision based on the size of the trophy case....Oregon doesn't have a shot.

If Rich Brooks was my school's coaching legend, I would be careful when throwing the word "tradition" around. Don't confuse tradition with history. They are two totally different things.

Now I agree that most recruiting boards can be hostile, and that you have been reasonable for the most part. However, the insinuation that Oregon offers the a "national stage" comparable to what UT could provide is simply laughable.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I think that I've already laid out the basis for my opinions in previous pages. But, since you ask, I would say that last season is a start.



I think you hit the nail on the head. Past championships are for fans to enjoy. Players are more interested in where they will be able to win one on their own merit.

Anything is possible. But, given the current state of affairs, I don't see that being as like at UT vs. Oregon in the near future. Judging by pre-season rankings, most others who study this agree.
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You think last season defines UT football... that's ignorant.

You think a team whose 100+ year past failure to win a NC is irrelevant to whether or not they'll win one next year. Even if you get Brown, there little hope way you'll win a NC. You don't have the horses and NEVER have. History proves the last point.
 
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utmba93 said:
Well, if you've been playing football for over 100 years and have NEVER won the NC, why should he think there's any chance you ever will? And, if the guy wants to play for a team that has, that eliminates the Ducks.
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I think the guy wants to play for a team that could. That's why the Ducks don't appear to be eliminated.

utmba93 said:
Why don't you post messages on the Duck's board? Is there one? Please let us know where?
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I do post messages elsewhere. Here is one Duck board (I'm sure there are others): www.ducksattack.com/forum

volsfan0156 said:
some of y'all on this board are just plain haters. What has oregon ever done to Tennessee? Nothing. There's no need to hate on every team that's not Tennessee. It just makes you seem ignorant.
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Indeed. I don't have anything against UT. I'm always interested to learn as much as I can about all NCAA teams. But, I do object to ignorant homerism. I don't mind sticking up for Oregon if the assertions are crazy enough.

Lexvol said:
If Rich Brooks was my school's coaching legend, I would be careful when throwing the word "tradition" around. Don't confuse tradition with history. They are two totally different things.
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Tradition can mean a lot of things. The way it was used in this context implied that taking football seriously was something new to UO.

imo, it's important not to confuse tradition with being only win/loss records or famous coaches.

Here is an example of another type of tradition that I believe is important: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_(college_football_game)

Lexvol said:
Now I agree that most recruiting boards can be hostile, and that you have been reasonable for the most part. However, the insinuation that Oregon offers the a "national stage" comparable to what UT could provide is simply laughable.
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I disagree completely. Oregon winning an NC game with Brown would be a bigger story nationally than him winning with a program that has done so before.

As I posted earlier, Oregon has a TV deal this year that puts them on national TV as much or more than any other team I'm aware of. People are into the Ducks. I've met all kinds of people from Boise State, Ohio to Tennessee that say that Oregon is their favorite (or second favorite) team. I haven't witnessed that going on with any other team (except Boise State actually).
 
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utmba93 said:
You think last season defines UT football... that's ignorant.
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I don't think last season defines UT football. It just defines the most recent evidence we have to base a future projection off of. It's not impossible that Kiffin could make a dramatic turn-around in one year. But, usually, it takes time.

utmba93 said:
Even if you get Brown, there little hope way you'll win a NC.
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Come down to Autzen on gameday and you'll see that there's plenty of hope.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I think the guy wants to play for a team that could. That's why the Ducks don't appear to be eliminated.



I do post messages elsewhere. Here is one Duck board (I'm sure there are others): www.ducksattack.com/forum



Indeed. I don't have anything against UT. I'm always interested to learn as much as I can about all NCAA teams. But, I do object to ignorant homerism. I don't mind sticking up for Oregon if the assertions are crazy enough.



Tradition can mean a lot of things. The way it was used in this context implied that taking football seriously was something new to UO.

imo, it's important not to confuse tradition with being only win/loss records or famous coaches.

Here is an example of another type of tradition that I believe is important: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_(college_football_game)



I disagree completely. Oregon winning an NC game with Brown would be a bigger story nationally than him winning with a program that has done so before.

As I posted earlier, Oregon has a TV deal this year that puts them on national TV as much or more than any other team I'm aware of. People are into the Ducks. I've met all kinds of people from Boise State, Ohio to Tennessee that say that Oregon is their favorite (or second favorite) team. I haven't witnessed that going on with any other team (except Boise State actually).
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Are you the Oregon AD?? LET IT GO, PLEASE!!!!!!! :blink::blink:
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I think the guy wants to play for a team that could. That's why the Ducks don't appear to be eliminated.



I do post messages elsewhere. Here is one Duck board (I'm sure there are others): www.ducksattack.com/forum



Indeed. I don't have anything against UT. I'm always interested to learn as much as I can about all NCAA teams. But, I do object to ignorant homerism. I don't mind sticking up for Oregon if the assertions are crazy enough.



Tradition can mean a lot of things. The way it was used in this context implied that taking football seriously was something new to UO.

imo, it's important not to confuse tradition with being only win/loss records or famous coaches.

Here is an example of another type of tradition that I believe is important: Civil War (college football game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



I disagree completely. Oregon winning an NC game with Brown would be a bigger story nationally than him winning with a program that has done so before.

As I posted earlier, Oregon has a TV deal this year that puts them on national TV as much or more than any other team I'm aware of. People are into the Ducks. I've met all kinds of people from Boise State, Ohio to Tennessee that say that Oregon is their favorite (or second favorite) team. I haven't witnessed that going on with any other team (except Boise State actually).
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Lexvol said:
:eek:lol:
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I thought you guys were talking about likelihood of occurrence, not size of the story if it did.

Seems to me the size of story argument undermines the likelihood of occurrence argument. Call me crazy.
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BigPapaVol said:
I thought you guys were talking about likelihood of occurrence, not size of the story if it did.

Seems to me the size of story argument undermines the likelihood of occurrence argument. Call me crazy.
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Don't inject common sense into this, you'll ruin it.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
Agreed. Nike works with the players to develop new uniforms. They are planning to release a new design in 2010. So, if Brown were to choose Oregon, he would presumably be involved in that process.

Seems like a cool way to extend the players role into the history of the team.
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Yea that has to be a good recruiting tool to get BB or any other prospect for that matter.
 
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VolBuck24 said:
Yea that has to be a good recruiting tool to get BB or any other prospect for that matter.
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While I'll agree that the facilities the Nike money bought are a nice selling point, I don't know that a new version of what is universally regarded as the ugliest uniform in college football is a great selling point. What tradition is there in a uniform that is literally different every game?
 
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The 1983 contest between the two teams produced a scoreless tie. Played during a rainstorm (and pitting two mediocre squads against each other), the game is commonly known as the "Toilet Bowl," due to the poor quality of play exhibited in the game (it was not a steadfast defensive struggle; Oregon scored twice but committed penalities during both plays, and was unable to score during the post-penalty play)

From the Wiki link YOU provided. I would be very cautious in providing links to support my schools "tradition" which openly reference mediocrity.
 
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Could hurt us with brown!

DUCK… DUCK… SUSPENDED!
Posted by John Taylor on February 10, 2009, 8:40 p.m.
A pair of Oregon Ducks, including the school’s single-season touchdown record holder, have been suspended from the football program indefinitely, the Eugene Register-Guard is reporting.

According to the paper, Oregon head coach Mike Bellotti suspended both running back LeGarrette Blount and linebacker Terrance Pritchett for “failure to fulfill team obligations”. In his statement announcing the disciplinary action, Bellotti said both Blount and Pritchett “are barred from all of the team’s football-related activities”.

Blount scored 17 TDs last season, and has been expected to take over the bulk of the Ducks’ running game load in 2009.

Pritchett, meanwhile, was already seemingly a problem child before whatever incident(s) led to Bellotti’s actions.

The linebacker was suspended for two games last season, and ultimately withdrew from school. He later returned to the team in time for the school’s bowl practices, and re-enrolled for classes last month.
 
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