Brilliant to have a 26% 3 point shooter fire it up with the game on the line…

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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Try again. I said at LSU. AT LSU. I’m not basing an “entire premise off of two games” as you’ve incorrectly said. Maybe you should understand the comments before showing your vast knowledge.

So you’re ignoring the biggest point. He had an injured shooting hand coming into the season. In his most recent 5 before Texas, 8-22, 36.36%. With Texas the last 6 is now 11-29, 37.9%. Those stats INCLUDE the 1-5 versus Florida.

It’s been reported that JJJ is the best 3 point shooter in practice.
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Was his hand injured as a freshman and sophomore? The best three point shooter in practice is irrelevant if it doesn’t translate to game time. I guess his hand injury didn’t affect his ability to shoot in practice and your cherry picking of stats is ridiculous. I can cherry pick stats too, since the Kentucky game where he played no defense, he is 6-19 from three or 31.5 %.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
Where can I get the software you have that monitors players’ eyes?
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There's things thing called video, you can see it and see ZZ cross the top of the key and immediately turn and look at JJJ then pass it. His decision to pass was made 20 feet from the rim.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Was his hand injured as a freshman and sophomore? The best three point shooter in practice is irrelevant if it doesn’t translate to game time. I guess his hand injury didn’t affect his ability to shoot in practice and your cherry picking of stats is ridiculous. I can cherry pick stats too, since the Kentucky game where he played no defense, he is 6-19 from three or 31.5 %.
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36.7% as a freshman.

It’s not cherry picking. It’s his most recent stats. You know, like after his shooting hand injury is healing up.

Are you just mad because you were caught lying about what I posted and looked foolish with your snarky s***?
 
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VolArmy74 said:
There's things thing called video, you can see it and see ZZ cross the top of the key and immediately turn and look at JJJ then pass it. His decision to pass was made 20 feet from the rim.
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The great advantage that humans have over the star nosed mole, is we have peripheral vision that increases our field of vision to almost 180 degrees. ZZ saw all the options. He hit the open guy who’d shot 42% from three after ruling out the first two options.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
The great advantage that humans have over the star nosed mole, is we have peripheral vision that increases our field of vision to almost 180 degrees. ZZ saw all the options. He hit the open guy who’d shot 42% from three after ruling out the first two options.
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I don't have an issue with that, the issue I have is that we didn't have good options. It was a bad play design where the only two realistic options were to have your 5'7 guy shoot over 4 defenders in the lane because we had no one else in the post, or have your guys all 22 feet from the basket when you only needed a 2 to win. Have someone crashing the baseline to make Texas have to defend the drive with less than the whole team.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I don't have an issue with that, the issue I have is that we didn't have good options. It was a bad play design where the only two realistic options were to have your 5'7 guy shoot over 4 defenders in the lane because we had no one else in the post, or have your guys all 22 feet from the basket when you only needed a 2 to win. Have someone crashing the baseline to make Texas have to defend the drive with less than the whole team.
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We had ON crashing until he get leveled by a flagrant foul that went uncalled. Should've been at the line shooting to tie or win
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I don't have an issue with that, the issue I have is that we didn't have good options. It was a bad play design where the only two realistic options were to have your 5'7 guy shoot over 4 defenders in the lane because we had no one else in the post, or have your guys all 22 feet from the basket when you only needed a 2 to win. Have someone crashing the baseline to make Texas have to defend the drive with less than the whole team.
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I agree with that part. ORN was at the scorer’s table calling timeout. Not sure if that was in the plan.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I don't have an issue with that, the issue I have is that we didn't have good options. It was a bad play design where the only two realistic options were to have your 5'7 guy shoot over 4 defenders in the lane because we had no one else in the post, or have your guys all 22 feet from the basket when you only needed a 2 to win. Have someone crashing the baseline to make Texas have to defend the drive with less than the whole team.
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You can’t get a post touch with 6 seconds left going full court. SV was close to the baseline, but I’m not sure what kind of angle ZZ had with the pass. The play design was there, and there were options. These are D1 players, and it was a very clean look.
 
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VolGee4 said:
You can’t get a post touch with 6 seconds left going full court. SV was close to the baseline, but I’m not sure what kind of angle ZZ had with the pass. The play design was there, and there were options. These are D1 players, and it was a very clean look.
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We either needed Bailey doing what Olivier did and Olivier near the baseline or Bailey of Vescovi crashing the baseline, or even JJJ crashing the baseline and Vescovi where JJJ was. Texas didn't have to defend the basket at all. ZZ got it to the key with 3 seconds on the clock. There was plenty of time for a lob over the top if we had anyone there. If it wouldn't have been open, it would have required Texas to move defenders back towards the basket, giving ZZ a much better chance at a 12-15 footer. We took the lowest percentage route.
 
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brockytop said:
when 2 points is needed for the win. Go to the hole and force a foul or get a shot That can be tapped or rebounded.

Coaching malpractice not to have Chandler on the court for the last play.
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We shot 35.8 from the field, 27.8 from 3-point, and 50% free throws, and struggle to get to 50 points total for the third time this year. Not numbers a top 20 team should be having, but we do. This team is what it is, we will make the tournament and exit stage right very quickly.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
We either needed Bailey doing what Olivier did and Olivier near the baseline or Bailey of Vescovi crashing the baseline, or even JJJ crashing the baseline and Vescovi where JJJ was. Texas didn't have to defend the basket at all. ZZ got it to the key with 3 seconds on the clock. There was plenty of time for a lob over the top if we had anyone there. If it wouldn't have been open, it would have required Texas to move defenders back towards the basket, giving ZZ a much better chance at a 12-15 footer. We took the lowest percentage route.
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What’s ZZ shooting on 12-15 footers? Cmon guy.
 
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Good to see VN has something to argue about. Great game and just came up short. It happens. Vescovi is our best shooter and Texas knew that. Wish we had better shooters but, we don’t.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I’d rely more on the large sample size of practice to determine how capable a player is. As far as game time, the more that a player accrues the more I’d rely on them. Texas had upperclassmen all over the court. ORN, JJJ, SV, and VJ are some of the most experienced and ZZZ has been demonstrating that he has no fear and makes good decisions even though he’s a freshman. I have zero issues with the 5 on the floor for the final 6.2 seconds. I wouldn’t have been at all bothered if KC, JP, or Fulk were in the game either. The staff has a far better feel for it than I do. I don’t think that BHH or Mashack are far enough along. Uros isn’t necessarily an upgrade over ORN in that situation. Those 5 led the comeback. Letting them finish wasn’t a bad decision. Imagine the backlash had KC or JP been inserted cold off of the bench and one of them makes a game deciding mistake.

I’ve also seen several posters criticize taking a 3 when a two would gave won the game. I don’t think that the spacing had anything to do with where SV, JJJ, and VJ were relative to where the 3 point line was painted. Texas’s positioning and length had everything to do with setting up beyond the 3PL. Setting up inside the 3PL creates more congestion for ZZZ to maneuver through.

I’ve not seen many better end of game plays drawn up at TN than that one. Seems like a lot of times it’s dribbling around on the perimeter and throwing up desperation, tightly guarded 25 footers at the buzzer that aren’t close to falling.
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Agreed on all that. I trust this staff as well. I do question things of course but they absolutely know far more than I do.
 
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brockytop said:
That‘s why you put others in position get a pass and either attack or have a close 2 point shot. This wasn’t a defacto Ziegler or bust situation at the rim.

I also notice you say nothing about Chandler being on the bench.
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Chandler deserved to be on the bench. He turns it over too much.
 
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I like the play call. James had the hot hand, he had just hit two in a row from 3 point land. If Ziegler goes in and gets blocked then the same ppl bitching about James getting a wide open 3 would be crying about the 5-8 point guard getting blocked at the rim.
 
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