Brian Maurer throwing shade on twitter

What that tweet tells me is that the hot seat talk is searing it's way in. No reason to publish stuff like that unless the pressure is real and being felt. We could be getting close to a change here.
 
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I am surprised Brian thinks that going 2-6 in year 3 does not come with some criticism. I would also think that when you sign up to play at a high profile program like UT you’re aware that there will be some expectations from the fanbase.

BTW - anytime someone says “no disrespect “ just know you’re being disrespected.
 
I disagree. I don’t like WHAT he said any more than anyone else but the more I think about it the more I like what he did. He just “jumped over the goal posts” defending his teammates and program from those tearing it down. You may not respect that but I assure you if you were wearing shoulder pads this coming weekend, you would have a different view knowing he just went to bat for YOU
Brian needs to focus on a) on becoming the very best quarterback he can become and b) not try to defend himself or his teammates from ignorant or inappropriate tweets or comments.
A) he has the opportunity to influence
B) is an impossible task. Can’t fix stupid.
 
In some ways, I do agree with BM. We criticize the players too often, when we should really criticize the coaches instead. JG did his very best. If someone is better, it isn't JG's fault because the coaches played him.

With that said, BM is getting paid to the tune of more than $20k per year with his scholarship. And like many have said on here, it is our money through donations, tickets, Vol gear, etc. that pays for his very scholarship. Without us, there is no UT athletics department.
 
It takes a special kind of loser to disparage these kids on Twitter or Instagram.
Is that somehow worse than doing it on here? Is saying the team sucks somehow different than saying our players suck?

Chastising fans for talking about the players when we are playing bad is like chastising a bear for mauling someone. It's futile. People will stop being upset about the team being bad when:

1) The team becomes good.
2) People stop caring and stop spending money on the team.

Those are the only two ways.
 
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As a fan of Tennessee football for over 60 years I can be critical if I want to.. i try not to criticize players unless they're caught with weapons and dealing drugs and other minor issues like those. When is it the players fault Brian?. Are we fans expected to pony up thousands of dollars on tickets, hats, shirts, etc just because you blue bloods run out on the field wearing orange and white.
I am really sorry you've had to give so much of your time on earth to sit on the bench every Saturday. If its so difficult I'd suggest you quit and quit belly aching. I don't feel your pain. Now get back to work or go home.
 
So you're basically saying you're guessing and you don't know...
We're all guessing. I'm guessing we have an impact (good or bad; lately terrible). Others are continuing to guess we have zero impact.

Occam's razor and a little logic come in handy here.

Are there despicable people on VN.com who say grossly unfair things about our coaches and players? Yes. Many. Not a guess: fact.

Are there despicable people on twitter and facebook who say grossly unfair things about our coaches and players? Yes. Many. Fact.

What are the odds that those groups are entirely separate? Zero percent. Because we've had plenty of folks here state that they're on the other social media as well. We've had VN.com folks confirm there is overlap between the platforms. Fact.

Same with call-in radio. We've had VN.com folks talk about calling in to different shows, from Finebaum to 104.5 the Zone in Nashville, to the various Knoxville stations. We know there's overlap. Fact.

So, since we know there is overlap among all these media (Boro's "get over yourself" posts notwithstanding), and we know there are folks saying some pretty horrible stuff in all these places, and we know that the "echo chamber" of vileness gives them a sense of freedom to be even more negative, hateful and vile (that's human nature; vicious circles and virtuous circles, reinforcing feedback loops, all very human) -- that leaves just one logical step missing:

Are the despicable folks here contributing to the negativity and vileness of the folks who caused Maurer to give this response?

See, we don't have to BE the people who directly said whatever got Maurer wound up. We only have to have contributed to the cess pool, reinforced it, so that others (here or not) would say something directly to Maurer or in a place he would see.

And that's the place where I'm guessing. I'm guessing "yes." We're contributing to those people's negativity. But it's based on a lot of solid facts, that one guess.

So. That's how you burn a program down from a distance. Create enough negativity, and watch it spread. Right to the players, recruits, coaches, and their families.

But the worst of us will go right along denying all responsibility for weakening our program. And we'll be sitting right here, on an ash pile, another 12 years from now, wondering why other people aren't fixing things.
 
“I have bled, sweat, and cried plenty of times over this team, and all the ones before it. Especially for the last decade and a half. How much longer do I have to do that, and commit my hard earned dollars to it, before I’m allowed to criticize it? It’s been MY team since I was born. How long has it been YOUR team, Brian?

And to be clear, I’m not a fan of you, Brian. Never really have been. I am though a fan of the orange and white, which should be done justice for by being represented with Ws instead of poor execution.”

Someone tweet this back at him bc I don’t have Twitter. Insolent little prick. Way to ostracize the people that still come support you on gameday with hopes that you’ll finally be the player we expect you to be and that this fine program has every right to expect you to be when they paid your tuition for the next 4 years and then attempted to turn you into someone who could get drafted one day.
 
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I disagree. I don’t like WHAT he said any more than anyone else but the more I think about it the more I like what he did. He just “jumped over the goal posts” defending his teammates and program from those tearing it down. You may not respect that but I assure you if you were wearing shoulder pads this coming weekend, you would have a different view knowing he just went to bat for YOU
Real Leaders lead inside the locker room not social media. His best way to lead is to become the best player he can be, not a social media crusader.
 
If we let our lives be controlled by the opinions of faceless/nameless people who are brave on the internet then we are a lost society. Maurer has every right to express his opinion whether it is in good or poor taste. Coaches and players have to understand that they are in a performance based business called college football and they open themselves up to highest and "lowest" forms of scrutiny that mankind...wait....I mean peoplekind.....no thats not right either.....I mean nonbinary kind.... can throw at you.
 
Hell yes, they used to show the British House of Commons at night (we're talking 80s and 90s, I don't know now) and that whole thing was wild. A room full of politicians openly mocking one another with their backing benches jeering "YEAAAH YEAAAAH" while a guy in a chair sat and looked as bored as he possibly could. Occasionally, they'd argue so much said guy in chair would exasperatedly pound on something and say "look let's calm down" and everyone would laugh and somehow Britain continued to operate. That stuff was solid gold.
Sounds a little like VolNation strangely enough.. Hate I missed that...
 
Brian Mauer does not have the gravitas to scold us fans. This is not a good look for him. He's treating this like it's an intermural club sport. As fans we have a lot invested in this. He's representing our school (I'm an alumnus). He's wearing the state on his chest and many boosters/season ticket holders pump big bucks into the program. I agree he should not be personally vilified but that's the internet today. Hell, social media vilifies folks everyday

He needs to lighten up and think of the hours and hard work he puts in as a job and his paycheck is his free ride in having numerous school expenses paid for
 
We're all guessing. I'm guessing we have an impact (good or bad; lately terrible). Others are continuing to guess we have zero impact.

Occam's razor and a little logic come in handy here.

Are there despicable people on VN.com who say grossly unfair things about our coaches and players? Yes. Many. Not a guess: fact.

Are there despicable people on twitter and facebook who say grossly unfair things about our coaches and players? Yes. Many. Fact.

What are the odds that those groups are entirely separate? Zero percent. Because we've had plenty of folks here state that they're on the other social media as well. We've had VN.com folks confirm there is overlap between the platforms. Fact.

Same with call-in radio. We've had VN.com folks talk about calling in to different shows, from Finebaum to 104.5 the Zone in Nashville, to the various Knoxville stations. We know there's overlap. Fact.

So, since we know there is overlap among all these media (Boro's "get over yourself" posts notwithstanding), and we know there are folks saying some pretty horrible stuff in all these places, and we know that the "echo chamber" of vileness gives them a sense of freedom to be even more negative, hateful and vile (that's human nature; vicious circles and virtuous circles, reinforcing feedback loops, all very human) -- that leaves just one logical step missing:

Are the despicable folks here contributing to the negativity and vileness of the folks who caused Maurer to give this response?

See, we don't have to BE the people who directly said whatever got Maurer wound up. We only have to have contributed to the cess pool, reinforced it, so that others (here or not) would say something directly to Maurer or in a place he would see.

That's how you burn a program down from a distance. Create enough negativity, and watch it spread. Right to the players, recruits, coaches, and their families.

But the worst of us will go right along denying all responsibility for weakening our program. And we'll be sitting right here, on an ash pile, another 12 years from now, wondering why other people aren't fixing things.
Well, you went on a rather long rant, which I admit I didn't read. My question was, do we know for sure who Brian was talking to, entire fanbase or a twitter idiot?

I definitely wasn't trying open Pandora's box.
 
Hell yes, they used to show the British House of Commons at night (we're talking 80s and 90s, I don't know now) and that whole thing was wild. A room full of politicians openly mocking one another with their backing benches jeering "YEAAAH YEAAAAH" while a guy in a chair sat and looked as bored as he possibly could. Occasionally, they'd argue so much said guy in chair would exasperatedly pound on something and say "look let's calm down" and everyone would laugh and somehow Britain continued to operate. That stuff was solid gold.

That hasn't changed. You can still watch that, usually on Sunday nights
 
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What that tweet tells me is that the hot seat talk is searing it's way in. No reason to publish stuff like that unless the pressure is real and being felt. We could be getting close to a change here.
From your keyboard to the Orange 🍊 ones in the sky watching over us.
Folks like Neyland, Pat, and Reggie that love our school need to whisper in Boyd, Fulmer, the Haslems ears at night that it’s time to bring the (now repentant, hooker free, and right with the Big Guy) Reverend Freeze back to the state of Tennessee.
 
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Well, you went on a rather long rant, which I admit I didn't read. My question was, do we know for sure who Brian was talking to, entire fanbase or a twitter idiot?

I definitely wasn't trying open Pandora's box.
Sorry, I didn't read your response. If you make it shorter, I'll try.
 
Brian Mauer does not have the gravitas to scold us fans. This is not a good look for him. He's treating this like it's an intermural club sport. As fans we have a lot invested in this. He's representing our school (I'm an alumnus). He's wearing the state on his chest and many boosters/season ticket holders pump big bucks into the program. I agree he should not be personally vilified but that's the internet today. Hell, social media vilifies folks everyday

He needs to lighten up and think of the hours and hard work he puts in as a job and his paycheck is his free ride in having numerous school expenses paid for

He's a passionate young adult, take what he says with a grain of salt. Not to mention no one over 22 should be tweeting anyway.
 
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Hahahahaha.... economics.

It is a transaction. For every scholarship athlete, the following is true:

1) You are getting a multi-dimensional education - some parts (insert chosen sport here), some parts academics, some parts "life" (I'm lookin' at you, Butch.).

2) You are providing entertainment for thousands and thousands of fans, yes fans - they are who you work for when you don the uniform. yep. sorry. - fans who spend their own hard-earned, real dollar bills to be entertained.

3) Some of those real dollar bills are the actual ones that paid for your education. Some of those real dollars went to build the facilities you live in, practice in, study in, and play the game in.

4) Some of those real dollars literally feed you - real food.

5) Some of the people spending their real dollars to be entertained spend more in one (normal season) than your entire education costs.

6) Now, with that said, most adult, grown-up type fans will express criticism towards the professionals (the coaches and the administration) - and let the student athlete work it out without specific, public attention.


I received a few of those fan-given dollars ... a long time ago. I wasn't working merely for fun. I had a boss. That boss had a boss, and that boss had a lot of bosses that wore a lot of orange.
 
Brian needs to focus on a) on becoming the very best quarterback he can become and b) not try to defend himself or his teammates from ignorant or inappropriate tweets or comments.
A) he has the opportunity to influence
B) is an impossible task. Can’t fix stupid.
While I agree with what you said and I’m sure he knows (think it got deleted), think of yourself as a player or JG/Pruitt themselves. This kid just risked his reputation, no telling what kind of in house punishment and god knows what else to defend YOU from social media KNOWING it wouldn’t make a difference outside of turning the negativity towards himself. Part of being the best you can be as a qb is leadership and although he may have said it wrong, he stepped up.
 
I've been a fan of the Vols longer than he's been alive.
He does not know anything of my investment personally, any more than I know of his investment personally.
But yeah, the Vols are my team too, son.
 
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