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#76
#76
PEPPERJAX said:
Uh
It is going to be Joey for sure. I would much rather go through an offseason of UT finishing 9-4 instead of 8-5. There is a pretty good chance this is Aguilar's last game in his collegiate career too.
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At this point there's a 50/50 chance not sure if that's =< a pretty good chance Joey plays next season
 
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vols40 said:
At this point there's a 50/50 chance not sure if that's =< a pretty good chance Joey plays next season
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I get that but how long can that court case drag on? Heupel may have no other choice except move on especially if he wants to add a QB from the portal as a starter.
 
#80
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PEPPERJAX said:
I get that but how long can that court case drag on? Heupel may have no other choice except move on especially if he wants to add a QB from the portal as a starter.
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Pavia petitioned the court for an injunction which was granted and got to play without the case even ever going to trial. The court let him play and meanwhile the NCAA agreed to let him play.

It's almost certain Joey A and others will also go that route so the court can either yay or nay on them playing next year, then try the case later.

Given what they did with Pavia last year, I think the court will let them play and the NCAA will give up fighting JUCO years counting as NCAA years.

Next up, guys suing to stop the NCAA from limiting eligibility at all. Play until you're 40, if you wish.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Pavia petitioned the court for an injunction which was granted and got to play without the case even ever going to trial. The court let him play and meanwhile the NCAA agreed to let him play.

It's almost certain Joey A and others will also go that route so the court can either yay or nay on them playing next year, then try the case later.

Given what they did with Pavia last year, I think the court will let them play and the NCAA will give up fighting JUCO years counting as NCAA years.

Next up, guys suing to stop the NCAA from limiting eligibility at all. Play until you're 40, if you wish.
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I think it'll get ruled that JUCO years don't count toward NCAA years, two different associations
I think they'd be on the right side though with limiting eligibility to 5 yrs
 
#84
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TheVolsFrog said:
I think it'll get ruled that JUCO years don't count toward NCAA years, two different associations
I think they'd be on the right side though with limiting eligibility to 5 yrs
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Why 5 years is the next question? If I'm not an NFL prospect and I'm making NIL in college, the NCAA is limiting my ability to earn money by tossing me after 5 years arbitrarily.

It's not a defensible rule because LOTS of people stay in school beyond 5 years. Wait and see.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Why 5 years is the next question? If I'm not an NFL prospect and I'm making NIL in college, the NCAA is limiting my ability to earn money by tossing me after 5 years arbitrarily.

It's not a defensible rule because LOTS of people stay in school beyond 5 years. Wait and see.
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The 5 is around the number of years to play 4. The change would have to be that players can participate fully in more than 4 years.

Not sure why you think anyone would challenge the "only 4 full years" component.

Edited to add: A player's age has never been a factor in eligibility.
 
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volfan102455 said:
The 5 is around the number of years to play 4. The change would have to be that players can participate fully in more than 4 years.

Not sure why you think anyone would challenge the "only 4 full years" component.

Edited to add: A player's age has never been a factor in eligibility.
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It's not about age, it's about the ability to earn money that the NCAA is arbitrarily limiting to 5 to play 4 or whatever.

What gives them the right to just choose how long someone in school can play?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Why 5 years is the next question? If I'm not an NFL prospect and I'm making NIL in college, the NCAA is limiting my ability to earn money by tossing me after 5 years arbitrarily.

It's not a defensible rule because LOTS of people stay in school beyond 5 years. Wait and see.
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NCAA is still an organization that is allowed to have rules. The reason they'll lose the JUCO thing is because JUCO is outside of their organization.
 
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TheVolsFrog said:
NCAA is still an organization that is allowed to have rules. The reason they'll lose the JUCO thing is because JUCO is outside of their organization.
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Perhaps you missed that the NCAA was an organization and had NIL rules that were found arbitrary and in violation of Antitrust Law.

I think you'll find the "5 to play 4" is just as arbitrary and just as in violation of Antitrust Law.
 
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Whether or not JA is on the roster for 2026, we know what he can do. Let him start and give him the first quarter and continuance of a drive if TN is in possession at the end of the first quarter. Then turn it over to Mac & Merk. Giving them 3 quarters should be enough to see what we have.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Perhaps you missed that the NCAA was an organization and had NIL rules that were found arbitrary and in violation of Antitrust Law.

I think you'll find the "5 to play 4" is just as arbitrary and just as in violation of Antitrust Law.
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So let the middle school and high school kids play at the college level then and vice versa.

An organization can set rules to define who is allowed to participate based on reasonable expectations and set expectations those who participate have to adhere to. That is not an Antitrust issue in my opinion.

The 5 to play 4 was not set arbitrary - it was based on the typical timeframe a student should obtain a degree. That timeframe comes into play in other aspects of obtaining a college education.
 
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