Bailey took every snap during scrimmage

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GreyWolf1129 said:
I think JG is (finally) on a short leash. The coaches know that 2020 is a one-off, and UT is not going to win the SEC, East or Conference. The UGA game made that point clear, and there are still some very tough tests ahead. So now you focus on (a) getting better as a team; (b) gaining bowl eligibility; (c) recruiting; and (d) working towards what will hopefully be a normal 2021 season.

The (c) and (d) goals clearly exclude JG. Both (a) and (b) can be debated. So for JG, the margin for error is small, if not zero.

I expect the UK defense to try and do what UGA did, and sell out against the run. And if JG struggles, I expect to see a change at QB. If he plays well, then I think he starts against Bama. No one with a room temperature IQ actually believes we're at Bama's level yet, and we can't go all Kiffin and give them a run in a shootout either, so...it is what it is.

If he struggles against UK, then Coach Pruitt has to make a decision. If UK can rattle him, so can 5 of our 6 remaining opponents. I wouldn't trust him against any opponent other than Vandy moving forward. And that's only because Vandy is literally that bad.

At around sunset on October 24th, this should be a 3-2 team, with 5 to play. 3 on the road, and 2 at home. I'd say only the Vandy game looks like a given win at this point, so now we're down to a 4-game slate, split between home and away, where we try to find one...preferably two QB's to pick from leading into the 2021 season. I'm not saying give up on 2020, I'm saying at some point you have to start thinking about next year, and the chance to continue to develop talent to the point where you can reasonably compete with UGA and UF...and I do think we're at that point. JG is not going to get us there this year, and I don't think he's a factor even if he's here next year. Best case, he comes off the bench for mop-up duty.

UK is the litmus test. If JG passes that, I think he starts against Bama. No point in throwing another QB to the wolves. Personally, I have nothing against him, but I do want to see a QB who gives UT its' best chance to win, and I no longer believe he is that QB.

But in any event, after Bama it's time to start thinking about the 2021 season, and finding the next starting QB for UT.

Go Vols.
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I think it's clear most of us think this. The question is, do the coaches? I'm not so sure. I'll be surprised if JG doesn't start the rest of the season and next year as well.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
What? No one expected us to win that game. 2 He literally just got an extension. 3 we competed with a playoff contender for a half. Pruitt ain't been given an alternative and Fulmer sure ain't looking for his replacement. WTF
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We competed right up into the point where our quarterback started laying eggs all over the field. Interceptions, fumbles, sacs from holding the ball too long. He had a couple of good passes. He look decent in the first half but not a world beater. He dang sure didn't look like a fourth-year sec starting quarterback. And then he imploded.
 
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Proud Army Wife said:
I think it's clear most of us think this. The question is, do the coaches? I'm not so sure. I'll be surprised if JG doesn't start the rest of the season and next year as well.
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He won't be the starting QB next year. If he comes back...which is not a given...I'd be surprised if he sees the field for anything other than mop-up duty.

That ship has sailed.
 
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utvols83 said:
JG hasn't been turning the ball over in practice and hadn't turned it over in a game this season until the UGA game. He had also been making the right reads and getting the ball out quick the first two games. I can see why the coaches viewed him as the safest option. They obviously didn't think any other QB was ready to handle UGA's defense and do any better than JG. If he isn't playing great against Kentucky, I'm sure they'll have no problem putting someone else out there. One thing is for certain, Pruitt isn't changing QBs until he's ready and it doesn't really matter what anyone on this forum says.
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You’re right, it doesn’t matter what we think.

His mistakes will catch up to him eventually and JG will be the reason Pruitt gets fired for not seeing it sooner.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
He won't be the starting QB next year. If he comes back...which is not a given...I'd be surprised if he sees the field for anything other than mop-up duty.

That ship has sailed.
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I hope you're right, I just feel the coaches are hell-bent on trotting his ass out there because they're so afraid of change.
 
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JG will be on a short leash. He needs to hear he’s the starter but they didn’t get Bailey that many reps for not reason. There was zero way in hell they were putting anyone else in vs Georgia with the way they were getting pressure.

People are overreacting though on predictions of losing so many games. Georgia is far and away better than anyone not named Bama in this conference.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
You’re right, it doesn’t matter what we think.

His mistakes will catch up to him eventually and JG will be the reason Pruitt gets fired for not seeing it sooner.
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You honestly think pruitt is going to get fired for JG? Really? You’re aware they just extended him right? JG probably won’t be here next year, if he is he will not be the starter.
 
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DaddyChad said:
You honestly think pruitt is going to get fired for JG? Really? You’re aware they just extended him right? JG probably won’t be here next year, if he is he will not be the starter.
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I’m just saying, if Pruitt would stop being stubborn and actually figure out the QB situation, it might save him from being embarrassed again by our rivals.

JG is a 5th year senior QB making the same mistakes over & over again that kills our momentum.

If he won’t give the other guys a chance to get a feel for the game, why the hell are they even here?
 
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Proud Army Wife said:
I think it's clear most of us think this. The question is, do the coaches? I'm not so sure. I'll be surprised if JG doesn't start the rest of the season and next year as well.
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I think most of what CJP is doing is around managing the locker room. We had epic failures in the past in this department. You need to manage the locker room to change the culture.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
I’m just saying, if Pruitt would stop being stubborn and actually figure out the QB situation, it might save him from being embarrassed again by our rivals.

JG is a 5th year senior QB making the same mistakes over & over again that kills our momentum.

If he won’t give the other guys a chance to get a feel for the game, why the hell are they even here?
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Ok, let me put it this way. Are you putting a freshman out there vs Georgia? Bc it seems like the staff considers bailey the next best player at the position but he’s not ready esp not ready to start vs the best front seven in college football.
 
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None of us are on the practice field to know why Coaches do not trust Shrout but believe me there is a reason. As far as Mauer and Bailey we know the reasons injuries and covid so neither are ready but seems to me from reports they are getting Bailey ready. JG actually played well in first half 11-13 with 2 TDs. Wish the OL played better in the second half but didn't and JG was under tremendous pressure in long yardage situations sure he needs to hold onto the ball but quit putting this loss on him alone. He was just one part of many that failed in this game. In CHRIST Alone
 
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DaddyChad said:
Ok, let me put it this way. Are you putting a freshman out there vs Georgia? Bc it seems like the staff considers bailey the next best player at the position but he’s not ready esp not ready to start vs the best front seven in college football.
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The game was over by the end of the 3rd quarter after JG committed three turnovers. Whatever momentum we had left was gone. It would have been a good opportunity for the younger guys to get some reps in and actually have an opportunity to show what they can.

JG playing in the 4th quarter was ridiculous.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Pruitt's had enough. He tempered his comments on the PG show, but his immediate post-game comments were telling.

You're a PAW...read between the lines. You know how.
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And in his post-game presser he also said "Idk, I didn't really pay attention" when asked about the game plan for the depth GA had on defense. I mean come on, no effin way lol.
 
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leeroyphi136 said:
I’m saying we take 2 of those games at least and lose to bama. We are a much better team and won the first half of that game. We just aren’t deep enough and lack leadership at the QB position to beat the top tier teams.
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If after more than a full season of coaching we have 3 QBs and none are are ready to lead the offense...i would say we have a coaching deficit
 
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spyfish007 said:
I think most of what CJP is doing is around managing the locker room. We had epic failures in the past in this department. You need to manage the locker room to change the culture.
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There's no doubt Pruitt is a player's coach. I watched a piece about him and the 2013 champion FSU squad. His players loved him. I can tell the change in culture at UT and that's great, but I'm not sure how that relates to his QB decision. We have no way of knowing what's really going on there behind closed doors.
 
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Proud Army Wife said:
There's no doubt Pruitt is a player's coach. I watched a piece about him and the 2013 champion FSU squad. His players loved him. I can tell the change in culture at UT and that's great, but I'm not sure how that relates to his QB decision. We have no way of knowing what's really going on there behind closed doors.
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I agree with your last sentence 💯. We can't know exactly what is happening behind closed doors. We are not there.

Now to the culture change topic. If you want to build a high performance team you a) define clear roles, b) define clear expectations c) you hold people accountable d) you don't embarrass them in public e) take the blame yourself f) win/achieve goals.

So if you are going to pull the QB then generally you have to that that happen in private (d) (alabama incident is the exception) and other leaders on the team must have a chance to see the failure to meet expectations (b) before they get on board with the accountability (c) of a lost job. Other roles are easier to change, but the QB role is the prime leadership role. The whole team is watching. You need the team onboard so you win (f) and continue to build culture and also satisfy boosters. Failure to win (f) will also necessitate a change to keep the culture moving in a positive direction. I see this as the primary reason for Maurer last year.

I truly believe the players coach aspect of CJP is one of the primary points to which Fulmer hit it off with CJP. This is a separate long thread unto itself.
 
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Everybody just breeze right on by that topic. This was purely done to catch him up on the playbook. Pruitt has no intentions of playing him this season unless it’s out of pure necessity.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Interestingly, the freshman QB was the first player that Pruitt mentioned when discussing the Sunday scrimmage.
“You know, it was really good. I think we took like 49 snaps and Harrison took every one of them. For him, that was really good because, based on the way fall camp went, he didn’t get a lot of live action. We just didn’t have enough plays for him to get in there and get going.


But then there is this also

“Jarrett’s our quarterback. He gives us the best opportunity to have success,” the Tennessee coach said during his Monday press conference

Jeremy Pruitt shares details of Tennessee’s Sunday scrimmage, says freshman QB Harrison Bailey took every snap
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Gotta keep him happy just in case JG decides not to come back next year. But if JG comes back next year HB will transfer because he won’t have a chance to play till he’s a 6th year senior!!!
 
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