Bailey took every snap during scrimmage

[Proud Army Wife]

I agree with your last sentence . We can't know exactly what is happening behind closed doors. We are not there.

Now to the culture change topic. If you want to build a high performance team you a) define clear roles, b) define clear expectations c) you hold people accountable d) you don't embarrass them in public e) take the blame yourself f) win/achieve goals.

So if you are going to pull the QB then generally you have to that that happen in private (d) (alabama incident is the exception) and other leaders on the team must have a chance to see the failure to meet expectations (b) before they get on board with the accountability (c) of a lost job. Other roles are easier to change, but the QB role is the prime leadership role. The whole team is watching. You need the team onboard so you win (f) and continue to build culture and also satisfy boosters. Failure to win (f) will also necessitate a change to keep the culture moving in a positive direction. I see this as the primary reason for Maurer last year.

I truly believe the players coach aspect of CJP is one of the primary points to which Fulmer hit it off with CJP. This is a separate long thread unto itself.

I'm so mad right now. I typed out a lengthy response to your post and my browser randomly kicked me off the page lol. In a nutshell, I know what you mean. I was the boss at my previous job for years. Not exactly the same as running a football program, but there's a lot of similarities.

 

[Keefus]

Not sure where all the consternation comes from ref JG, if UT had a better option available I’m pretty sure we would have seen it by now. Once the streak was broken it flipped immediately back to JG....what I saw was an OL full of 5 and 4 stars, mostly very experienced, that were dominated. When that happens, few QB’s give their best performance. The OL was ranked top 3 in SEC by most, top 1-2 by some. Not yet. OL should have at least held their own based upon pedigree, never happened.

I agree , so many are giving all blame to JG( and he deserves his fair share) but that O line was terrible . Ga D line had their way with them.

 

[DougVol]

We are doomed...

Lol. I was waiting for you to respond quickly to the JG reference.

 

[VOL_Lyfe]

He is, however, playing at a much higher level now that Kiffin is there.

Kiffy seems to have that effect on offenses.....

 

[sjt18]

In my opinion any QB who isn't good enough to beat out JG is more than welcome to walk to the portal

If that's actually the case then I agree. My question is whether others are being given a legitimate opportunity or if the deck has been stacked against them.

 

[lukeneyland]

I’d say the lack of time Bailey has had to learn due to China virus is probably the reason he’s not had an opportunity yet. In general the virus has probably been hell on our chances of getting another QB ready for this season

 

[lifeVol]

I think that's a given. Other teams can recruit, develop, and roll with a freshman if need be. Well, we f'n "need be" right now but it won't happen.

I liked your post but hope you're wrong bout 'won't happen'

 

[rikberry31]

If that's actually the case then I agree. My question is whether others are being given a legitimate opportunity or if the deck has been stacked against them.

I have asked this several time with no sensible answer. Why would CJP and CJC favor one qb and not play the qb they thought was best.

 

[VolNotInNorthCack]

And in his post-game presser he also said "Idk, I didn't really pay attention" when asked about the game plan for the depth GA had on defense. I mean come on, no effin way lol.

I heard that too. At the time I was like wtf? But then I thought about it for a minute. And I think what he meant (being a former coach and able to translate coachspeak from time to time) was that you don't really gameplan for depth. You gameplan for the scheme they run and their packages. The players are all interchangeable to a coach when gameplanning. There are specific players you do have to scheme around, but you don't really do it for depth.

He should have said something to the effect of "We don't pay attention to their depth. They run the same defense no matter who is out there, we have to be able to execute no matter if it's their 1st team or their 4th team."

 

[Doctrippin]

I think JG is (finally) on a short leash. The coaches know that 2020 is a one-off, and UT is not going to win the SEC, East or Conference. The UGA game made that point clear, and there are still some very tough tests ahead. So now you focus on (a) getting better as a team; (b) gaining bowl eligibility; (c) recruiting; and (d) working towards what will hopefully be a normal 2021 season.

The (c) and (d) goals clearly exclude JG. Both (a) and (b) can be debated. So for JG, the margin for error is small, if not zero.

I expect the UK defense to try and do what UGA did, and sell out against the run. And if JG struggles, I expect to see a change at QB. If he plays well, then I think he starts against Bama. No one with a room temperature IQ actually believes we're at Bama's level yet, and we can't go all Kiffin and give them a run in a shootout either, so...it is what it is.

If he struggles against UK, then Coach Pruitt has to make a decision. If UK can rattle him, so can 5 of our 6 remaining opponents. I wouldn't trust him against any opponent other than Vandy moving forward. And that's only because Vandy is literally that bad.

At around sunset on October 24th, this should be a 3-2 team, with 5 to play. 3 on the road, and 2 at home. I'd say only the Vandy game looks like a given win at this point, so now we're down to a 4-game slate, split between home and away, where we try to find one...preferably two QB's to pick from leading into the 2021 season. I'm not saying give up on 2020, I'm saying at some point you have to start thinking about next year, and the chance to continue to develop talent to the point where you can reasonably compete with UGA and UF...and I do think we're at that point. JG is not going to get us there this year, and I don't think he's a factor even if he's here next year. Best case, he comes off the bench for mop-up duty.

UK is the litmus test. If JG passes that, I think he starts against Bama. No point in throwing another QB to the wolves. Personally, I have nothing against him, but I do want to see a QB who gives UT its' best chance to win, and I no longer believe he is that QB.

But in any event, after Bama it's time to start thinking about the 2021 season, and finding the next starting QB for UT.

Go Vols.

No, we are not Bama yet, which is why I want to see out of the box, exotic offense going on. Chaney needs a few rabbits in the hat

 

[VOL_Lyfe]

No, we are not Bama yet,

Winner of the "Way Out on a Limb" award for today

 

[TucsonVol]

We are doomed...

As long as Pruitt loves him some JG, we are doomed!

 

[sjt18]

I have asked this several time with no sensible answer. Why would CJP and CJC favor one qb and not play the qb they thought was best.

Have you ever been denied a chance at a job due to tenure? Have you ever seen "experience" over emphasized in spite of the senior person not being as good as the potential replacement can become? I have worked for a few different companies and have frequently seen companies favor a less talented person with experience over a very talented person who only lacks experience. The less experienced person may not be as good right out of the gate. But they soon take you well beyond anything possible with the limited, experienced person.

There is a more political take. HB isn't ready. He was handicapped by the Covid response. So what if the coaches replaced JG with one of the other two? It is almost certain that UT would lose the guy who wasn't chosen... and could potentially lose HB as well. Their best chance at having all 3 compete for the job next March is to play this season out with JG... in spite of his issues. I think that would be a mistake in the long run... but it wouldn't be unheard of logic.

 

[BootheelVol]

During the GA game, Maurer was sporadically sitting in the game adjustment meetings with Weinke & was sporting a knee brace.

 

[1vol8]

Jeremy Pruitt’s thoughts on quarterbacks should scare Tennessee fans

This tells you all you need to know about his knowledge when it comes to the QB. “QBs are no different from any other position.”

You know..... I have never actually read that article until earlier when you posted it. I knew he’d said qb was no different than any other position but I never knew the extent of his belief until now and that was for lack of a better term, “heart drop to the pit of my stomach” eye opening. Since I’ve been trying to think of way to respond. I’ve been calling Pruitt out on his qb evaluation for over a year now and I’ve been asked several times if I think I know more than Pruitt and now I can actually say “yes” instead of giving him more credit that he deserves. Any coach that can even choke those words out just basically said “I don’t know what I’m doing with qbs” and “I really don’t understand this game the way I think I do”.

This goes much deeper than I thought. This isn’t just about Maurer or Shrout. This is a problem going forward for every qb recruit in the future. When the head coach of the team that is recruiting my son is a defensive coordinator by trade but has his hands in the offense and makes a statement like that, I know my son won’t have a fair opportunity to develop under him because he’ll be quick to pull him. If I were Bailey you can bet I’m questioning things already. If I were Salter, Manning or otherwise you can bet that article will be used against UT in recruiting. There is a reason Peyton was activity recruiting replacements last year and now I think we know why.

 

[Skullbone]

You know..... I have never actually read that article until earlier when you posted it. I knew he’d said qb was no different than any other position but I never knew the extent of his belief until now and that was for lack of a better term, “heart drop to the pit of my stomach” eye opening. Since I’ve been trying to think of way to respond. I’ve been calling Pruitt out on his qb evaluation for over a year now and I’ve been asked several times if I think I know more than Pruitt and now I can actually say “yes” instead of giving him more credit that he deserves. Any coach that can even choke those words out just basically said “I don’t know what I’m doing with qbs” and “I really don’t understand this game the way I think I do”.

This goes much deeper than I thought. This isn’t just about Maurer or Shrout. This is a problem going forward for every qb recruit in the future. When the head coach of the team that is recruiting my son is a defensive coordinator by trade but has his hands in the offense and makes a statement like that, I know my son won’t have a fair opportunity to develop under him because he’ll be quick to pull him. If I were Bailey you can bet I’m questioning things already. If I were Salter, Manning or otherwise you can bet that article will be used against UT in recruiting. There is a reason Peyton was activity recruiting replacements last year and now I think we know why.

To be fair the author in that piece was suggesting that Pruitt would be too quick to take out a QB at the first sight of struggle and replace him which would somehow divide the team and deprive them of a leader at qb. That's the opposite of our problem.

 

[butchna]

You know..... I have never actually read that article until earlier when you posted it. I knew he’d said qb was no different than any other position but I never knew the extent of his belief until now and that was for lack of a better term, “heart drop to the pit of my stomach” eye opening. Since I’ve been trying to think of way to respond. I’ve been calling Pruitt out on his qb evaluation for over a year now and I’ve been asked several times if I think I know more than Pruitt and now I can actually say “yes” instead of giving him more credit that he deserves. Any coach that can even choke those words out just basically said “I don’t know what I’m doing with qbs” and “I really don’t understand this game the way I think I do”.

This goes much deeper than I thought. This isn’t just about Maurer or Shrout. This is a problem going forward for every qb recruit in the future. When the head coach of the team that is recruiting my son is a defensive coordinator by trade but has his hands in the offense and makes a statement like that, I know my son won’t have a fair opportunity to develop under him because he’ll be quick to pull him. If I were Bailey you can bet I’m questioning things already. If I were Salter, Manning or otherwise you can bet that article will be used against UT in recruiting. There is a reason Peyton was activity recruiting replacements last year and now I think we know why.

You should be at peace now.

 

[1vol8]

To be fair the author in that piece was suggesting that Pruitt would be too quick to take out a QB at the first sight of struggle and replace him which would somehow divide the team and deprive them of a leader at qb. That's the opposite of our problem.

It’s exactly the problem! No disrespect but who showed the most leadership last year? JG or Maurer? Pruitt was quick to pull Maurer and quicker to pull Shrout. JGs leash with NO leadership is as long as the Nile River. I’d say the the author was dead on.

 

[butchna]

It’s exactly the problem! No disrespect but who showed the most leadership last year? JG or Maurer? Pruitt was quick to pull Maurer and quicker to pull Shrout. JGs leash with NO leadership is as long as the Nile River. I’d say the the author was dead on.

Over the course of the full season, JG showed more leadership. Maurer more pep in his limited opportunity. He was very freshman...which isn’t an insult.

 

[Mccage]

Over 130 replies to the OP and not one has asked how HB did in scrimmage. Everybody calling for JG's head you would at least think some of yall buzzards feasting on the kill would at least be curious.

 

[butchna]

Over 130 replies to the OP and not one has asked how HB did in scrimmage. Everybody calling for JG's head you would at least think some of yall buzzards feasting on the kill would at least be curious.

They said he did very well...blew the competition away.

 

[beachvol23]

I agree , so many are giving all blame to JG( and he deserves his fair share) but that O line was terrible . Ga D line had their way with them.

The o line got whipped BECAUSE of JG! His ineffectiveness in reading defenses, can’t audible, and poor decision making, allow defenses to pin their ears back CONSTANTLY! And they know if they keep hammering, there will be mistakes and failure.

 

[BloodShovel]

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

Please make a change a build for the future coach Pruitt!

 

[1vol8]

Pruitt is a savvy footballer, I trust him, he has done more to develop our guys than anyone since fullmer. I trust him, if he says at this point JG is our best option then so be it. Yall will be singing a different tune at end of year, I think we beat bama and Florida along the way

I agree after reading that article! He’s a “savvy” footballer that has a “team first” approach. I think for every home run we shoot we will win 1 point at a time. I bet our first play vs Kentucky will be an ally oop down the left field. I’m feeling a Stanley Cup coming!

 

[rocytop2624]

I wonder how he looked? I would expect him to be very green.

He is a champion I am worried if he isn't a Trevor Lawerance type Even a Jake Fromm but hell Stetson looked as good as Fromm. But there is reason to compare they all played close to each other in high school unless I am wrong. But a 5star from 6a Georgia State champion should start and this year is free experience.he is 6'4 225 so he should be tough and he can zip it if I am the coach and I am not I go with him. It almost seems like the coaches are trying to handle this to keep as many QB's as possible from transferring. I hope JG don't come back.