Ament will improve

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#76
When Ament does drive, he is going one dribble too far. He is more suited to pull up in the lane and go straight up. That may(?) get him a more favorable whistle. He's sure not getting it when he attacks the rim.
 
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hound dog hillbil said:
By saying NBA ,yall nean G LEAGUE, I'm just guessing. Where i see him going.
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He’s is a 5-8 lottery pick as of now. I guess he could play ball in the G league to gain experience. Who knows if he will have success in the NBA.

Keon Johnson (lottery pick) is currently unemployed and just spent Thanksgiving w/ family in Midlde TN. The Nets cut him so he’s waiting to be picked up by another team.
 
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orangello said:
I believe during the ten days between the Illinois game and the Louisville game, and then two "practice" games the staff will have the opportunity to work on some individual skills with Nate Ament. He's not quick/explosive right now. Too deliberate. Some change of pace, pumps, etc would serve him well. But, any new moves need repetitions. He will soon enough become a better scorer. By conference season we'll start to see if it will be this year. JMO
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Good observation. And, too late for this year, but the training staff needs to get him some steaks and in the weight room! He could be a beast with an additional 25 pounds of muscle.
 
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vol94 said:
He’s is a 5-8 lottery pick as of now. I guess he could play ball in the G league to gain experience. Who knows if he will have success in the NBA.

Keon Johnson (lottery pick) is currently unemployed and just spent Thanksgiving w/ family in Midlde TN. The Nets cut him so he’s waiting to be picked up by another team.
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Bet he wishes he had a redo on that decision.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
lol. What 5 stars has Barnes brought in that were overrated?
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Are you kidding? All of them except for Chandler. He’s signed seven and most have been huge disappointments. JJJ was a steady player, but certainly never realized the 5-star role. Overrated? Absolutely. The fact that he had to play 4 years is proof.

Phillips? Meh, would be a compliment.
Springer and Johnson? Decent players, but certainly didn’t show the production to justify one and done. Their pro careers confirm. Huntley-Hatfield? Total bust. How the hell a guy with Barnes’ experience couldn’t sniff this one out is beyond me.

So, you obviously didn’t do your homework when you asked that question. Ament looks like a massive waste of money. This is the guy Barnes pushed boosters to go out and pay an absurd amount of money. $4 million. I’m sorry, but that’s embarrassing. Maybe the kid blossoms, but he just doesn’t look physically ready to play this style. So yes, Barnes has a history of overrated 5-star players and Ament looks to be the biggest disappointment yet.
 
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WaywardVol said:
Are you kidding? All of them except for Chandler. He’s signed seven and most have been huge disappointments. JJJ was a steady player, but certainly never realized the 5-star role. Overrated? Absolutely. The fact that he had to play 4 years is proof.

Phillips? Meh, would be a compliment.
Springer and Johnson? Decent players, but certainly didn’t show the production to justify one and done. Their pro careers confirm. Huntley-Hatfield? Total bust. How the hell a guy with Barnes’ experience couldn’t sniff this one out is beyond me.

So, you obviously didn’t do your homework when you asked that question. Ament looks like a massive waste of money. This is the guy Barnes pushed boosters to go out and pay an absurd amount of money. $4 million. I’m sorry, but that’s embarrassing. Maybe the kid blossoms, but he just doesn’t look physically ready to play this style. So yes, Barnes has a history of overrated 5-star players and Ament looks to be the biggest disappointment yet.
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Phillips you have a point but no one with an iota of common sense thinks that Springer and Johnson flopped here during Covid.

And JJJ played about as well as anyone expected considering he was here for 4+ years. Everyone expects a 5 star to be one and done. We got JJJ for 4+ years. That is hardly a flop.

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JMSqb11 said:
Phillips you have a point but no one with an iota of common sense thinks that Springer and Johnson flopped here during Covid.

And JJJ played about as well as anyone expected considering he was here for 4+ years. Everyone expects a 5 star to be one and done. We got JJJ for 4+ years. That is hardly a flop.

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I’ll take 4 years of a slightly overrated 5-star than 1-year of a guy who barely contributes. We were lucky to have JJJ. I would take someone like him 10/10 over the production we got from Julian Phillips.
 
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bent0224 said:
Good observation. And, too late for this year, but the training staff needs to get him some steaks and in the weight room! He could be a beast with an additional 25 pounds of muscle.
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I’m pretty sure that the S&C staff has been working with Ament since the day he committed and the nutritionist has been keeping him well fed from the day he first walked on campus.
 
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bent0224 said:
Good observation. And, too late for this year, but the training staff needs to get him some steaks and in the weight room! He could be a beast with an additional 25 pounds of muscle.
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He definitely needs to get stronger and be more aggressive on his drives to the basket. He is playing ageist some grown men whe he gets in the paint.
 
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I think they need to face reality and change his role. He can't drive to the basket and finish, he can't hit a shot in traffic, he can't create his shot. Barnes needs to be moving him thru the offense without the ball for catch and shoot 3's. At his height who will block it? Then have him crash the boards for some put backs. They are trying to use him like Duke uses Boozer, he's not that guy. Get what you can for the 4 million because he is gone end of March.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Bet he wishes he had a redo on that decision.
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I said the same thing but he doesn’t regret it one bit as He’s made millions already. Plus he and a couple of NFL players started a new business - not sure what.

His cousin works for me but I rarely bring up Keon. He did say Keon told the family he was confident he would be picked up by January and/or playing in G league.
 
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He just has no explosiveness or quickness. He's a lottery pick based on his skills and potential to get stronger and mature physically. That will happen and he may be great eventually, but we probably won't see it here. In hindsight we should have taken his nil and gotten another proven scorer at guard.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I think he will only continue to improve as he physically matures. He's 18 and clearly is skilled, but needs to gain weight and strength. I'm not ready to toss the baby with the bathwater in regards to his entire career, but I am willing to concede that we will likely never see him fulfill his potential at Tennessee.
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As I said in a previous post, I would like to see us run off-ball action a la Julian Phillips for him to then post (high or low) and work from there to score and/or get to the line with fewer t/o's. Ofc he has to be smart and show he can handle the double when posting smaller defenders which remains to be seen.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Keon? Doubt it. He was in the era before NIL ran rampant in college athletics. He made a lot of money by leaving when he did. Probably a good decision for him, even if I would have loved to have him for all 4 years.
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So he still has eligibility and CRB should call him?
 
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Maybe Barnes missed it on Ament, but maybe not. Still a few weeks for drastic
improvement. He may still be a tremendous help in conference play. Guys are writing him off too soon.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
He seems to have a problem driving to the basket, He often turns the ball over or winds up having to take an awkward shot.When he pulls up for a short jumper, he is often short with his shot. That will improve with experienced when he decides to dunk the ball.
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I saw Boozer guarded then make a strong driving move from the wing into the post and said to myself that is a pro move.
 
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Similar level players in HS, yet AJ’s game translated pretty seamlessly to college compared to Nate’s. Must be nice
 
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johnfnkelly said:




Similar level players in HS, yet AJ’s game translated pretty seamlessly to college compared to Nate’s. Must be nice
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Dybantsa seems much more physically developed and more of a finished product at the same stage, which would seem to account for the difference. Same for Boozer, Peterson, Peat.

Ament has tons of potential, but while BYU is likely to see close to the finished product with AJD in his one year, Tennessee is likely to only see glimpses of the player Ament can be in his one year.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Dybantsa seems much more physically developed and more of a finished product at the same stage, which would seem to account for the difference. Same for Boozer, Peterson, Peat.

Ament has tons of potential, but while BYU is likely to see close to the finished product with AJD in his one year, Tennessee is likely to only see glimpses of the player Ament can be in his one year.
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Needs. a lot of work in S&C.
 
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