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carlos86 said:
Wasn’t the Laffer curve disproven???
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In the broad sense it's true, but where is the sweet spot?

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Laffer was a paid advisor for Kansas' tax cut experiment. That ended well.
 
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Weezer said:
The constituents would set the agenda. Representatives are supposed to represent the people that elect them, not serve a party. Loyalty to those you represent should always be paramount. Instead we get loyalty to the party line.
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No representative is going to be able to address all policy issues. That's why they specialize, to some degree, on congressional committees.
 
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Velo Vol said:
The state governor is not responsible for, or versed in, national issues.
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Ridiculous assertion. The reps and senators need to insure their responses to national issues are in line with their states citizens and leadership. Their allegiance is to the state they are representing not a party agenda... or it should be.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Ridiculous assertion. The reps and senators need to insure their responses to national issues are in line with their states citizens and leadership. Their allegiance is to the state they are representing not a party agenda... or it should be.
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Quick, someone ask Governor Bill Lee whether the U.S. should be pushing China in the South China Sea or not.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Quick, someone ask Governor Bill Lee whether the U.S. should be pushing China in the South China Sea or not.
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The reps and senators should absolutely consider the impact of that policy item and every other one on their states citizens and involve their states leadership in the discussion or they are not representing their constituents.

The 58 most powerful elected positions in our country should be POTUS and the 57 state governors.
 
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Velo Vol said:
In the broad sense it's true, but where is the sweet spot?

laffercurvegraph.png


Laffer was a paid advisor for Kansas' tax cut experiment. That ended well.
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I remember studying it in high school and again in college. Finding the sweet spot was always the most difficult and it was completely dependent on various economic factors. Yes Laffer really screwed Kansas up. They passed the tax cut he helped design, then the state ran a huge deficit which lead to the Republicans lose the legislature and Governorship.
 
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Velo Vol said:
No representative is going to be able to address all policy issues. That's why they specialize, to some degree, on congressional committees.
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I question the need for congressional committees to begin with. IMO they encourage partisan hackery by taking up partisan issues. Most often when I hear of a committee, it's because they're bitterly arguing partisan issues rather than actually addressing national needs. There doesn't need to be "specialization". That's just a line to keep the sheep from straying. Committees, IMO, are really more about creating powerbases.

What is the point of a representative if he doesn't speak for the people he represents?
 
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Velo Vol said:
In the broad sense it's true, but where is the sweet spot?

laffercurvegraph.png


Laffer was a paid advisor for Kansas' tax cut experiment. That ended well.
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What is it about leftists that give them such determination to willingly allow the government take something you earned? I don't get it.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
What is it about leftists that give them such determination to willingly allow the government take something you earned? I don't get it.
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Maybe because they realize we live in a country that chooses to provide roads, parks, prisons, schools, courts, police and fire protection, emergency services, disaster relief, child and elderly care services, and also the world's strongest military.
 
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carlos86 said:
I remember studying it in high school and again in college. Finding the sweet spot was always the most difficult and it was completely dependent on various economic factors. Yes Laffer really screwed Kansas up. They passed the tax cut he helped design, then the state ran a huge deficit which lead to the Republicans lose the legislature and Governorship.
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Laffer curve guides to maximum revenue. Politicians can and do outspend the revenue. That's not on Laffer. That's on the Kansas idiots who spend the revenue.
 
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Weezer said:
I question the need for congressional committees to begin with. IMO they encourage partisan hackery by taking up partisan issues. Most often when I hear of a committee, it's because they're bitterly arguing partisan issues rather than actually addressing national needs. There doesn't need to be "specialization". That's just a line to keep the sheep from straying. Committees, IMO, are really more about creating powerbases.

What is the point of a representative if he doesn't speak for the people he represents?
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Still waiting for anyone to cite a country that doesn't have political parties.

I consider them a necessary evil until shown otherwise.

I agree that elected officials should exercise independence and not just vote the party line. But you've got to have the organizing structure that parties provide.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Still waiting for anyone to cite a country that doesn't have political parties.

I consider them a necessary evil until shown otherwise.

I agree that elected officials should exercise independence and not just vote the party line. But you've got to have the organizing structure that parties provide.
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Someone always has to be first. Just because you've never known different doesn't mean different cannot be better. If our FFs followed your train of thought, we'd still be an English colony.
 
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