Alvin Kamara

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SpaceCoastVol said:
So all that stuff they were not interested in for hundreds of years, when the value of such things is determined and set... and someone else has already done the heavy lifting.... now they are interested. Ayn Rand hit that one on the head. If I owned a mine in Africa I would blow it back to God before I would turn it over.
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Someone else did the heavy lifting.....quick, someone get this boy a history book.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Kind of the way I see it. The same as the Arabs rolling around in their sand humping camels for sport until somebody figured out there was oil underneath all that.
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They control and benefit from their oil, native Africans don't benefit from any of the natural resources that they have.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
confiscation of farms is not a.real.thing....please.lets compare passports....to be someone so traveled, you believe anything.
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Yes. It. Is. What fairy tale do you live in? If I show up to your house, put a gun to your head and demand you sell me your $1,000,000 mansion for $100 k, and if you don't, I get to seize it from you, what would you call that?
 
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85SugarVol said:
You trying to argue that Africans didn’t know the worth of gold 100’s of years ago?
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No. I'm saying they had a completely different culture with completely different values and one can't argue that they were useless and lazy just because their culture was different.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Just giving you the black perspective on him.

As they say there are always 2 sides to a story. Colin wearing a Fidel Castro shirt wasn't an endorsement of a political idelogy but rather giving props to a guy who fought against racism and colonialism at a time when our own government wouldn't.

Black people respect what he did at a time when most other white people turned their backs on fighting against oppression. Castro and Cuba stood by us at a time of need and we'll always have love for him for that.

That's all Colin meant by wearing that shirt. It wasn't an endorsement of communism but in appreciation of a man who Nelson Mandela called a brother.
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glossing over his atrocities
 
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Wadetime said:
Huh? So because someone gets paid to play sports, their freedom of speech and freedom of thought is revoked? Who cares what he believes. That's for him. He's a baller VFL. all that matters
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Their freedom of speech/thought isn't being revoked, even if the NFL penalized their knee-taking. You don't get to express yourself in the space an employer is paying you to work.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
So you think native Africans want to come here and be discriminated against? You think Africa is an impoverished nation? Your poor white soul....you may want to read and travel more.
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You think American blacks are welcomed in Africa? Immigrant blacks do much better than native blacks. Here. In the USA.
Africa is by far the poorest continent, just a fact: The Continents Of The World Per Capita GDP
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Just giving you the black perspective on him.

As they say there are always 2 sides to a story. Colin wearing a Fidel Castro shirt wasn't an endorsement of a political idelogy but rather giving props to a guy who fought against racism and colonialism at a time when our own government wouldn't.

Black people respect what he did at a time when most other white people turned their backs on fighting against oppression. Castro and Cuba stood by us at a time of need and we'll always have love for him for that.

That's all Colin meant by wearing that shirt. It wasn't an endorsement of communism but in appreciation of a man who Nelson Mandela called a brother.
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You can't separate Castro from communism; the man was a bloody dictator. And he didn't care whether you were black or not; you knuckled under and lived a life of communist privation or you were jailed, tortured, or whacked. He kept the country scraping the barrel bottom for decades while having a lavish life himself, and accumulated quite the bank account.

Regarding racism in Cuba: Racism in Cuba - Wikipedia
https://splinternews.com/african-americans-should-stop-lionizing-castro-as-champ-1793864057
So, yeah, go love that guy. The man cared about spreading communism in Africa, not the people who had to live under those regimes.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Please point to “useless and lazy”
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No one said that. It wasn't an accusation. But you seemed to be making the argument that, since they didn't have a culturally ability/desire before colonization/occupation to manage their resources according to modern Western economics, they shouldn't/can't be trusted to manage them now. You're the one that asked why they didn't manage their resources then according to modern western values. I was just pointing out how ridiculous the question is. It's the equivalent of asking why Native Americans didn't build oil wells and manage their wonderful oil reserves... in the 1700s.

The question itself shows how flawed the thinking is.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
No one said that. It wasn't an accusation. But you seemed to be making the argument that, since they didn't have a culturally ability/desire before colonization/occupation to manage their resources according to modern Western economics, they shouldn't/can't be trusted to manage them now. You're the one that asked why they didn't manage their resources then according to modern western values. I was just pointing out how ridiculous the question is. It's the equivalent of asking why Native Americans didn't build oil wells and manage their wonderful oil reserves... in the 1700s.

The question itself shows how flawed the thinking is.
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Correct. No one said that. You made that up when you said “one can’t argue...”

The Mali empire was mining, and trading, in Gold & Copper as far back as the 14th century
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Yes. It. Is. What fairy tale do you live in? If I show up to your house, put a gun to your head and demand you sell me your $1,000,000 mansion for $100 k, and if you don't, I get to seize it from you, what would you call that?
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Well if you stole it from.me in the first place, I would call it reclamation of property. You may want to read about the history of South Africa. White South Africans are not being killed, property stolen, etc...etc..long story short, there is no white genocide in South Africa. by you repeating that lie, I know where you get the news that you regurgitate.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Well if you stole it from.me in the first place, I would call it reclamation of property. You may want to read about the history of South Africa. White South Africans are not being killed, property stolen, etc...etc..long story short, there is no white genocide in South Africa. by you repeating that lie, I know where you get the news that you regurgitate.
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Which person alive today had their property stolen from them? I'm not defending colonialism. Far from it. But the situation isn't what you just painted it to be.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Well if you stole it from.me in the first place, I would call it reclamation of property. You may want to read about the history of South Africa. White South Africans are not being killed, property stolen, etc...etc..long story short, there is no white genocide in South Africa. by you repeating that lie, I know where you get the news that you regurgitate.
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When you have no concept of property and ownership you can't have it taken away.

Also..when you dont know how to farm you cant have your farms taken away either because you dont have a farm.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Well if you stole it from.me in the first place, I would call it reclamation of property. You may want to read about the history of South Africa. White South Africans are not being killed, property stolen, etc...etc..long story short, there is no white genocide in South Africa. by you repeating that lie, I know where you get the news that you regurgitate.
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Are you claiming farms aren’t being taken, or that it is simply reclamation?
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
So it's OK to take family property? Most land is passed down in families. But...
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I never said it was ok. I said it's more complicated than you stated. It's a bad situation that should have never happened. I would support taking from the one who stole to give to the one who was stolen from. That's not what is happening in SA and you know it.

Now, what? A couple of hundred years later? This is family property that you are defending taking away to give to someone else, exactly what you claim was evil back then.
 
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