AJ Johnson Accused of Sexual Assault

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#601
Coug said:
Oh hell no! The girls names should have been released just as soon as AJ's and Michael Williams names were released. If you're going to accuse someone publicly of doing something to you then your name should be dragged through the mud just like these two guys were. Innocent until proven guilty is a concept that's being shat on with cases like this. The guys are already being punished before any evidence has even been mentioned. Hell there aren't even any charges being pressed by either of these two females. That is the definition of bullshlt! That woman should also be removed from her rowing team.
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Where to start?

First, the two women did not accuse anyone of anything "publicly." They made a complaint to to the Police department as that was their proper and - in fact only - recourse.

The only reason it has become widely known publicly is because of the celebrity of the accused. The news media covers events they consider to be newsworthy.

If you want to consider laws governing what the media reports, we'll need a constitutional amendment. Might want to get started as it will take a while.

If you want to consider allowing the police departments to decide if and when they disclose who they arrest or investigate for criminal activity, enjoy your stay in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

Finally, the two accused haven't been punished nor have they been found guilty of anything. They will receive due process.

The only "punishment" is suspension from team activities, and has been said many times before, playing football for a university is a privilege and that privilege is at the discretion of the university. In light of the circumstances, suspending that privilege is not only within the rights of the university, but seems absolutely proper if only to protect the university's own interests.
 
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perico said:
If she was going with Dobbs and Palardy, I'd have little problem with it. They are good kids who are responsible citizens. They'd drink milk, study physics, and read the Bible.
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You don't mind if she has a threesome with Dobbs and Palardy? You ARE open minded.
 
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Innocence or guilt not applied, but these are grown a$$ men who should have known better than place themselves into this situation.
 
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Stephen Gray said:
You know, I can't say it's a fact, but the statistics support the notion that a very large number of women experience attempted or completed rape. A quick google says 1 in 6. Also, 1 in 33 men.

Again, I can't say it's a fact, but credible statistics also imply that only 40% of rapes are reported, and only 3% of rapists ever spend a day in jail.

Going by these numbers, it seems likely that you probably know women who have been raped. Many of these women probably never reported the crime. Why wouldn't they report it? One only need to read some of the responses in threads like these to find out.

Blaming possible victims is ALWAYS wrong, especially when all you have is rank speculation, and no facts. I know what everyone wants to be true. We will would all like to find out that our players did not do this, because not only would that clear their names, but it would also mean these women were not raped.

If in fact they were though, as many women are, how do you think naming them publicly would make them feel? Or saying that they are somehow partially responsible for their rape.

I might agree with you that the names of suspected criminals shouldn't be released until they are convicted, but the idea that women who report rape should be named is lunacy.
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I say this because the accused already get screwed before anything is even proven or they're even convicted. That and there are women out there who start this kind of crap even after clear consensual sex just because they can or just because they're pissed off at something else. They get away with it because there are laws like this in place that keep the females name hidden and therefore that woman's accountability is not maintained. Like I said, until the field is even then the accusers names should also be released.
 
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I feel for the moms. The young woman's mom either has a daughter who was violated, or a daughter who has made accusations that aren't true. Devastating either way. The other young woman's mom is dealing with not knowing exactly what happened while her daughter was two states away. I can't imagine either of those.

The players' moms either have sons who are ~ whatever you want to call them if they're guilty ~, or sons who have been accused and will never have the life they might have hoped for them.

So, so bad all the way around, no matter what the truth of the situation is. Painful for everyone involved.
 
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Well yahoo now has a story from volquest on its home page. No new info from it. This entire thing just pisses me off to no end. On one side, I hope that this isn't true for AJ. However, that also means I hope a young woman is lying about something so serious. This just makes me sick as a person beyond the fan...
 
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If you really want to feel sick go read the latest rumor in the Football Talk thread in the Recruiting Forum. There is one poster over there, eazyTD, and his posts will make you very unhappy. IF what he's saying is true I am worried about our team. Sounds like our team is on the verge of possible implosion. Not good at all.
 
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Three things about this situation:
1) Haven't these guys learned by now to not even put yourself in a situation where you could be accused of something inappropriate?
2) If he did it, he deserves to have the book thrown at him
3) Brian Banks/Duke Lacrosse team.
 
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VOLMEB said:
If you really want to feel sick go read the latest rumor in the Football Talk thread in the Recruiting Forum. There is one poster over there, eazyTD, and his posts will make you very unhappy. IF what he's saying is true I am worried about our team. Sounds like our team is on the verge of possible implosion. Not good at all.
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DISCLAIMER: NOT AN INSIDER

It matches up with what I've heard from other places.

But this team is not going to implode. Definitely not a big divide.

If the rumor is true, then that's just something else for the team to unite behind.
 
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BookVol said:
It matches up with what I've heard from other places.

But this team is not going to implode. Definitely not a big divide.

If the rumor is true, then that's just something else for the team to unite behind.
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Eazy said it was an offensive player. I dearly hope it wasn't a major contributor and that it creates a divide between that player and the remainder of the team (I also hope he didn't encourage the women to report a false rape...so I'm not sure where I stand)
 
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BookVol said:
DISCLAIMER: NOT AN INSIDER

It matches up with what I've heard from other places.

But this team is not going to implode. Definitely not a big divide.

If the rumor is true, then that's just something else for the team to unite behind.
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So are you saying the third party is not someone this team would miss?
 
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BookVol said:
That is my understanding. I may be wrong though, but seems like Maggit was taking up the leadership mantle at practice today according to RTI.
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Honestly, I think our team will step up. I expected Maggit to fill that leadership void.
 
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BookVol said:
That is my understanding. I may be wrong though, but seems like Maggit was taking up the leadership mantle at practice today according to RTI.
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I just got worried because some of eazy's posts made it sound like the team was about to fall apart because of this other player who got involved. Regardless, sounds like that player will probably end up leaving the team. Is that your assumption?
 
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VOLMEB said:
I just got worried because some of eazy's posts made it sound like the team was about to fall apart because of this other player who got involved. Regardless, sounds like that player will probably end up leaving the team. Is that your assumption?
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Seems more likely than not.

Provided this is all true.
 
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VOLMEB said:
I just got worried because some of eazy's posts made it sound like the team was about to fall apart because of this other player who got involved. Regardless, sounds like that player will probably end up leaving the team. Is that your assumption?
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I never said that.

I said on multiple posts that the team is united and they are 100% behind AJ.
 
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VOLMEB said:
I just got worried because some of eazy's posts made it sound like the team was about to fall apart because of this other player who got involved. Regardless, sounds like that player will probably end up leaving the team. Is that your assumption?
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Thats not the case. There is no divide. They are all together on this. Except one lol.
 
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VOLMEB said:
If you really want to feel sick go read the latest rumor in the Football Talk thread in the Recruiting Forum. There is one poster over there, eazyTD, and his posts will make you very unhappy. IF what he's saying is true I am worried about our team. Sounds like our team is on the verge of possible implosion. Not good at all.
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Seems like bull****.
 
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ez also said, he thought that the accusations against AJ were untrue 100%.
 
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If these guys are found not guilty then their suspensions from games they never get back.

Let me make my self clear....sexual assault is horrible and anybody CONVICTED of it should be dealt with accordingly.

Who agrees that the suspensions should come after a verdict or formal charge with CONVINCING EVIDENCE.

I do. Because if this is a false claim these guys shouldn't lose anything. If it is found that they did commit these crimes then they go to prison and it really doesn't matter that they played in the game. Think if it was your son.
 
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