Academic report from GVX....

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#328
I have a friend who's on the team so I can ask him about it, I guess. The only thing I do know is that Bray was one of them (1.8 GPA last semester, IIRC) but he's picked it up this semester.
 
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King Webbsticles said:
Which, ironically, experts have speculated that would have saved the Titanic. The hull was much thicker at the front and had the captain hit it head on, it likely wouldn't have sunk.
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I was just going to post that but appears you beat me to it. :hi:
 
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#331
I remember saying there were a lot of issues in December. I was called a muckraker, troll and negavol.

Good times.
 
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#333
If it was only the fall and not cumulative, they wouldn't be on AP. Both GPAs have to fall below 2.0 to be put on AP. We may have players struggling, but IDT we're about to lose a bunch of guys.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
According to some of you, we have a chance of losing 30 scholarship players after May classes. They would be kicked out of school according to policy, and we would have @ 45 scholarship players in September.
I don't buy it, and I will just wait until fall to see the academic casualties, if there are any of significance.
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There are around 8 to 10 on the chopping block. Schoefield and Miller are the two everyone knows about.

I wouldn't expect to see more than 3 or 4 gone.
 
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LA Vol said:
If it was only the fall and not cumulative, they wouldn't be on AP. Both GPAs have to fall below 2.0 to be put on AP. We may have players struggling, but IDT we're about to lose a bunch of guys.
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One semester below 2.0 that drags the cumulative below 2.0 will get you on academic probation.

A freshman in his first semester (rare for football players, most take a few in the summer before their first "real" semester) will be put on AP if their GPA isn't higher than a 2.0. If the fall semester is bad enough to drag the cumulative down below 2.0, you're put on AP.

Point being, one semester below 2.0 can land you on AP.
 
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LA Vol said:
If it was only the fall and not cumulative, they wouldn't be on AP. Both GPAs have to fall below 2.0 to be put on AP. We may have players struggling, but IDT we're about to lose a bunch of guys.
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No - two consecutive semesters below a 2.0 also puts you on probation.
 
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#340
I volunteered, worked, and went to school full time and graduated in four years. I'm pretty sure my left foot had at least a 2.0 GPA.
 
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justingroves said:
I wouldn't expect to see more than 3 or 4 gone.
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I would agree and it might not even be that many. If they are eligible per NCAA academic rules they won't be dismissed from school. They will pass thru the appeal process and we will never know the difference.
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BruinVol said:
How many hours a week you work and volunteer?
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Volunteered ~15, but usually more. Worked 25 at minimum. Never took less than 15 hours of classes each week. Was also active in Student Gov my freshman year (Freshman Council).
 
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amarcus07 said:
Volunteered ~15, but usually more. Worked 25 at minimum. Never took less than 15 hours of classes each week. Was also active in Student Gov my freshman year (Freshman Council).
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15 hours a week of volunteer work. That's pretty darn good. Well done.


Football players are putting in close to 30 hours a week when u count the 20 hours the ncaa allows and the voluntary film study times. To act as if they have a lot of free time isn't fair. Now that doesn't excuse the subject we are discussing but make no mistake making a 2.0gpa for a number of kids on the team takes a lot of work and for a select few they should be applauded for their efforts. For others their effort is very disturbing.
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Bassmanbruno said:
No - two consecutive semesters below a 2.0 also puts you on probation.
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Sorry, my bad. I stand corrected.

The big picture is, if we have players that can't cut it with the tutoring, academic support and supervision that a well-funded school like UT provides, then they aren't going to skate by for long. Maybe Matt Darr is one of them?
 
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BruinVol said:
15 hours a week of volunteer work. That's pretty darn good. Well done.


Football players are putting in close to 30 hours a week when u count the 20 hours the ncaa allows and the voluntary film study times. To act as if they have a lot of free time isn't fair. Now that doesn't excuse the subject we are discussing but make no mistake making a 2.0gpa for a number of kids on the team takes a lot of work and for a select few they should be applauded for their efforts. For others their effort is very disturbing.
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I understand the number of hours that football players put in. I had classes with a lot of them. One of our linemen that was an AA in high school bought me a drink on my graduation night. He's a great guy - as are most of the players. Not to get off on a rabbit trail, but Chris Walker is on FCA staff now - AWESOME. I love it. Anyway, back to GPAs. I understand it can be hard - but if you're a medical student, you know what you're getting into and realize the time it will take and the expectations. Same with Engineering or Architecture. These football players (should) know that there are expectations when they are in college, and even if it is hard to get that 2.0, (which I am sure it can be for some if you are a football player) you have to do it. Now, I was never a fan of CLK, but I love what he had to say about this issue - (paraphrasing) - "I'm not gonna tell these kids to make grades their #1...Football is their #1, grades are #2..but in order to get #1, you have to do #2"...That isn't the exact quote, but it shows the point he was making. If they want it bad enough - they will get it. Looking forward to this fall. GBO.

Side note - I'm an intern in Washington, D.C. and a VFL. If anyone wants to help me out with a job, feel free!
 
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amarcus07 said:
I understand the number of hours that football players put in. I had classes with a lot of them. One of our linemen that was an AA in high school bought me a drink on my graduation night. He's a great guy - as are most of the players. Not to get off on a rabbit trail, but Chris Walker is on FCA staff now - AWESOME. I love it. Anyway, back to GPAs. I understand it can be hard - but if you're a medical student, you know what you're getting into and realize the time it will take and the expectations. Same with Engineering or Architecture. These football players (should) know that there are expectations when they are in college, and even if it is hard to get that 2.0, (which I am sure it can be for some if you are a football player) you have to do it. Now, I was never a fan of CLK, but I love what he had to say about this issue - (paraphrasing) - "I'm not gonna tell these kids to make grades their #1...Football is their #1, grades are #2..but in order to get #1, you have to do #2"...That isn't the exact quote, but it shows the point he was making. If they want it bad enough - they will get it. Looking forward to this fall. GBO.

Side note - I'm an intern in Washington, D.C. and a VFL. If anyone wants to help me out with a job, feel free!
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Well said.

Expectations are fully disclosed before athletes sign on to become student athletes. Whether it's easy or not, it's required.
 
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