A pocket passer

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omghulkhands said:
We can complain about coaching, passing, catching


But our problems start and end with that o-line
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Our coaches recruited some of these guys and also guys like Blair who haven't been able to beat out our current starters. Mahoney has also spent three years with these guys "coaching" them up. So why can't we put our biggest issue on the coaches?
 
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DallasVol92 said:
Thats just silly. He tried to run, but has cinder blocks for feet. His throws were dead on!

Im thinking ole Butch prolly encourages Dobbs to go to the NFL so Dobbs can pay for his graduate degree in cash. Also, he wont have a hard decision to make w the QB position next yr. no way he can justify having Dobbs as QB next yr under any circumstances.

Actually, the only circumstance is all the back ups transfer.
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You are all wet, Dobbs dual threat ability is what has made us competitive against fl, bama and Ok. He's got the job barring injuries until he graduates.
 
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gr82batnvol said:
With this offensive line, a pocket passer would get creamed! Dobbs would look SO much better if that weak o-line would give him good protection. Also, Hurd would be in the same talk as Fournette and Henry.
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Those of you blaming Dobbs inaccuracies on the o-line are completely delusional. Granted he is pressured at times, but there are dozens of examples of him being under zero pressure and missing easy passes. It's not the o-line, it's his passing ability. Period. End of Story.
 
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jps2194 said:
Those of you blaming Dobbs inaccuracies on the o-line are completely delusional. Granted he is pressured at times, but there are dozens of examples of him being under zero pressure and missing easy passes. It's not the o-line, it's his passing ability. Period. End of Story.
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I agree! I am so glad to see people coming off the Dobbs train finally
 
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jps2194 said:
Those of you blaming Dobbs inaccuracies on the o-line are completely delusional. Granted he is pressured at times, but there are dozens of examples of him being under zero pressure and missing easy passes. It's not the o-line, it's his passing ability. Period. End of Story.
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Yeah right coach. Look at Arkansas. That will tell you what a good OL will do for a QB.
 
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DallasVol92 said:
Thats just silly. He tried to run, but has cinder blocks for feet. His throws were dead on!

Im thinking ole Butch prolly encourages Dobbs to go to the NFL so Dobbs can pay for his graduate degree in cash. Also, he wont have a hard decision to make w the QB position next yr. no way he can justify having Dobbs as QB next yr under any circumstances.

Actually, the only circumstance is all the back ups transfer.
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If you actually think this then that's just silly.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Yeah right coach. Look at Arkansas. That will tell you what a good OL will do for a QB.
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So, "Coach", explain to me with your infinite wisdom why he overthrows receiver or throws them in the dirt when he has absolutely no pressure.

I am amazed at how some of you are in denial about his accuracy and find an excuse each week for it.
 
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jps2194 said:
So, "Coach", explain to me with your infinite wisdom why he overthrows receiver or throws them in the dirt when he has absolutely no pressure.

I am amazed at how some of you are in denial about his accuracy and find an excuse each week for it.
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I dont pretend to have the knowledge to be able to accurately judge a QB like some of you "experts" on here. Dobbs makes some bad throws. Maybe its his mechanics. Maybe its his decision making. I have seen many great QBs make bad throws under no pressure.

The best way to remedy the sitiation is just to trash Dobbs though.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I dont pretend to have the knowledge to be able to accurately judge a QB like some of you "experts" on here. Dobbs makes some bad throws. Maybe its his mechanics. Maybe its his decision making. I have seen many great QBs make bad throws under no pressure.
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It seems you do pretend to have the knowledge since you claim a good OL suddenly makes a poor thrower accurate as the OL at Arkansas has.

Many on here never look at facts (I'm guessing you included) and want to simply attribute all of his poor passes on the OL but yet offer zero explanation for the multitude of passes thrown in the dirt with no pressure. Of course great QB's make bad throws when under no pressure - nobody is perfect. If you believe he just throws the occasional bad throw then you aren't paying attention.

Dobbs has a lot of great attributes, but passing accuracy sadly is not one of them.
 
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Dobbs is getting better with the throws. North Texas was a set back but he is getting better. He just needs to get air under the throws instead of trying to be precise on the deep throws. Dormady looked pretty good throwing the ball. The deep out he completed was perfect and the throw on the "shot" play was thrown great. Dobbs should be the starter and I believe he gives us the best chance to win just in case this thread turns into a QB controversy thread.
 
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Catbone said:
Dobbs is not a good passer.

Dormady is not a good runner.

OL is not good at anything.
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Dormady is no Dobbs running but I don't think he is a poor at escaping the blitz.

And tbh, I think Dormady will be one hell of a player.
 
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gr82batnvol said:
With this offensive line, a pocket passer would get creamed! Dobbs would look SO much better if that weak o-line would give him good protection. Also, Hurd would be in the same talk as Fournette and Henry.
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Dobbs would look better if he was slightly accurate
 
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jps2194 said:
It seems you do pretend to have the knowledge since you claim a good OL suddenly makes a poor thrower accurate as the OL at Arkansas has.

Many on here never look at facts (I'm guessing you included) and want to simply attribute all of his poor passes on the OL but yet offer zero explanation for the multitude of passes thrown in the dirt with no pressure. Of course great QB's make bad throws when under no pressure - nobody is perfect. If you believe he just throws the occasional bad throw then you aren't paying attention.

Dobbs has a lot of great attributes, but passing accuracy sadly is not one of them.
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How many drops have our WRs had this year? So on one hand you say even great QBs make bad throws and nobody is perfect. Yet then you say there is no explanation for his passes in the dirt under no pressure. Your complete underestimation of the importance of the OL is laughable.

Keep thinking that a good OL that can protect means very little. Serious question here, do you think Brandon Allen would be as good as he is with our OL?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Keep thinking that a good OL that can protect means very little. Serious question here, do you think Brandon Allen would be as good as he is with our OL?
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Don't think he is saying a good OL "means very little".. I think he's simply saying that Dobbs is not an accurate passer regardless of what OL he has in front of him... Which, no matter how much you want to deny that fact, is true...
 
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VolFootballlover said:
Dobbs would look better if he was slightly accurate
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He has been accurate most of the time. There have been miscommunications, pressure so a lt of throw aways, and drops. He throws a bad pass sometimes. Most games He has had a good completion percentage even with the factors against him.

I guess you didn't watch us play UGA, Bama, UK etc.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
How many drops have our WRs had this year? So on one hand you say even great QBs make bad throws and nobody is perfect. Yet then you say there is no explanation for his passes in the dirt under no pressure. Your complete underestimation of the importance of the OL is laughable.

Keep thinking that a good OL that can protect means very little. Serious question here, do you think Brandon Allen would be as good as he is with our OL?
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Your complete overestimation of the OL is Dobbs only problem is laughable. Yes, when he is pressured (or any QB for that matter) they become inaccurate. What you fail to grasp is my point that he is just as inaccurate when he has zero pressure. Therefore, how can the OL be the problem with him. I went back and watched two complete games and mapped the throws in a previous thread. If you actually spent time analyzing it instead of a knee jerk reaction you would realize the truth.
 
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